LHD and mot's

[mfw]

With the new mot rules which came out in may and slight differences between uk spec vehicles and eu vehicles - headlamp aim probably being an easy fail and for some costly to replace.

Just wondering if people are having problems with LHD vehicles for mot's as up till june next year there are a lot of vehicles running without having to go through the new mot rules

Not just picking on left hookers here it is the slight differences that come into mot's ( lighting is an easy difference )

 

[funflair]

I don't understand why a Left'y would be any different to a right hand drive as both have to pass the applied standard, a left'y should have the light made UK legal at the time of import, and that hasn't changed recently.

Martin

 

[mfw]

I don't understand why a Left'y would be any different to a right hand drive as both have to pass the applied standard, a left'y should have the light made UK legal at the time of import, and that hasn't changed recently.

Martin

Didn't know that thought they just used beam deflectors

 

[funflair]

Didn't know that thought they just used beam deflectors

Many A class vans use the 90mm round Hella units so they can be adjusted left to right dip some are easier to do than others of course, for a coach built designed as left hand drive but to supply into the UK market I would have thought that they would fit Right hand drive light units but not sure to be honest, are you saying that beam benders are not allowed in the new MOT rules?

Martin

 

[Mr Chrysalis]

I brought a French car home to the UK in the 90’s. Just had to change the headlamp units. I think many modern cars have an adjustment switch/lever that changes the beam without changing the lamps. I would not think beam deflectors would be accepted

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[wizza]

Beam defectors are ok I have them on my French import my speedometer is in km.For MOT you need to change fog lamp and fit beam defectors

 

[Lenny HB]

Didn't know that thought they just used beam deflectors

Beam defectors are not admissable for import but they are acceptable for an MOT.

 

[Wagoneer]

Many A class vans use the 90mm round Hella units so they can be adjusted left to right dip some are easier to do than others of course, for a coach built designed as left hand drive but to supply into the UK market I would have thought that they would fit Right hand drive light units but not sure to be honest, are you saying that beam benders are not allowed in the new MOT rules
Martin

My 90mm Hella dipped beam lamps (UK spec) can only be adjusted to a symmetrical beam pattern (no kick-up) for use in mainland Europe.

I leave it on the symmetrical beam pattern and it has passed the MOT every time.

 

[shawn&emma]

Does the reversing light and fog light have to be changed to opposite sides as well. I know in Portugal when you import a rhd vehicle you've to change the front and rear light clusters as the fog/reverse lights and wiring is wrong way round for them.

 

[Lenny HB]

Does the reversing light and fog light have to be changed to opposite sides as well. I know in Portugal when you import a rhd vehicle you've to change the front and rear light clusters as the fog/reverse lights and wiring is wrong way round for them.

Rear fog light has to be on UK offside or center, all the vans we have imported have had twin rear fogs so not a problem.

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[pagey]

i am a bit concerned about my exhaust although its rhd the exhaust exits over the passengers side towards the kerb

 

[Wombles]

No problem with recent LHD Citroen Jumper (Relay) so presumably the same for Fiat Ducato & Peugeot Boxer As mentioned before most have twin fog lights, speedo overlay is easy to source & change yourself or by dealer & head light replacement is just a couple of torx screws per headlight - good prices & Funster discount for genuine Fiat parts here https://www.motorhomefun.co.uk/foru...e-for-fiat-citroen-peugeot-parts-more.183754/ Any that have passed the VCA check recently are as required to pass MOT & if older ones do need to make changes it's worth costing that in if considering buying a LHD that hasn't had these done yet.
Some motorhomes have flat beam lights & only need adjustment not replacing so worth checking before replacing.

 

[soreeyes]

i am a bit concerned about my exhaust although its rhd the exhaust exits over the passengers side towards the kerb

I would of thought the base unit would be the same for LHD or RHD and only difference is driving position ?

 

[mfw]

Thanks for replies am under impression with new mot rules that beam deflectors are not allowed and have to be removed and i am just wondering what is likely to have been altered and now come into mot and it is only LHD vehicle or eu spec vehicles i'm interested in

 

[Wildbill]

Not going to get to involved in this thread but my left hander has no problems even with lhd lights with masks
Bill

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[TerryL]

My 2007 Ducato passed a number of MoT's before one tester pointed out that the left headlamp unit was for a LHD vehicle! I have subsequently replaced it (anyone want a LHD headlamp unit?)

I never bother taking off the "beam-benders" and it's passed every time since. I think the word "beam-bender" is actually a misnomer because all they do is block the "kick-up" to the left. As long as there is no kick-up to the right it will pass the current MoT.

Incidentally I have the plastic headlamp covers so the beam-benders are not stuck to the headlamp glass; they come off the plastic cleanly if necessary.

 

[Wildbill]

Thanks for replies am under impression with new mot rules that beam deflectors are not allowed and have to be removed and i am just wondering what is likely to have been altered and now come into mot and it is only LHD vehicle or eu spec vehicles i'm interested in

Beem deflectors or masks are not a reason for refusal of a test certificat
Bill

 

[mfw]

Thanks for answers still dont know if someone has had an mot since june under new mot rules

Really looking at lhd and mot's since june this year - had beam deflectors on vehicle this year ( for foreign trips ) and was told in may i would have to remove them when i get an mot next year under the new mot rules.

Thinking of exchanging my rhd for lhd but the new mot rules is what is concerning me ( the headlamp patterns on some vehicles is different between lhd and rhd ) headlamps being the most expensive consideration

 

[funflair]

Thanks for answers still dont know if someone has had an mot since june under new mot rules

Really looking at lhd and mot's since june this year - had beam deflectors on vehicle this year ( for foreign trips ) and was told in may i would have to remove them when i get an mot next year under the new mot rules.

Thinking of exchanging my rhd for lhd but the new mot rules is what is concerning me ( the headlamp patterns on some vehicles is different between lhd and rhd ) headlamps being the most expensive consideration

This is from motester.co.uk

Martin

Headlamp alignment
Headlamps alignment is checked with specialised equipment.

All dipped beam headlamps fitted will be checked.

It’s acceptable for masks or converter kits to be fitted to right hand dip headlamps to temporarily alter the lamp for use in the UK by removing the beam ‘kick-up’ to the right.

If driver’s beam aim controls are fitted, the beam aim will be Tested without altering the control setting. If this would result in failure for beam aim being too low, the Tester will re-check the beam aim with the control set at its ‘highest’ position.

 

[funflair]

Bit of light reading here Broken Link Removed


Martin

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[sallylillian]

Had my MOT in July. I have a personally imported N+B Flair, new in 2015. It is LHD with headlights set to dip to UK and this was checked on import in 2015. The van passed MOT in July with no advisories. Is that what you want to hear??

 

[mfw]

Thanks funflair and sallylillian that answers my question

 

[tacr2man]

There are several trucks operated by a UK car delivery firm , that are built with LHD and LHD headlamps ,registered in UK , that travel thru EU , when it comes to MOT they are allowed to mask the kick up and are passed without comment

 

[pagey]

I would of thought the base unit would be the same for LHD or RHD and only difference is driving position ?

i take it you have a sunlight with the exhaust exiting on the nearside the same as mine whereas all uk built vans have the exhaust exiting on the offside

 

[mfw]

There are several trucks operated by a UK car delivery firm , that are built with LHD and LHD headlamps ,registered in UK , that travel thru EU , when it comes to MOT they are allowed to mask the kick up and are passed without comment

Can understand that with commercial vehicle temporary masking of headlamp for mot's they spend more time in europe than here.

Motorhomes spend varying amounts of time abroad and are pleasure vehicles so how can you say that a diverter or masked headlamp is temporary.

Not trying upset anyone but big difference between someone running a commercial vehicle abroad and someone going for a holiday in a camper

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[EuroTrotters]

We bought one of the three La Strada Nova's from Alan Kerr back in 2013.

They were LHD and had beam deflectors on. It passed its MOT.

We have a LHD Fiat with round Hella Headlamps. It passes its MOT.

 

[peterc10]

The headlights on my Hymer are adjustable for driving on left or right As I understand it all the adjustment to driving on the right does is remove the kick up and give me a flat beam.

At the moment they are set permanently to flat beam because we drive more on the continent than we do in the UK and they are a pig to change. Does the MOT require the kick up or will it pass with a flat beam please?

 

[Wagoneer]

The headlights on my Hymer are adjustable for driving on left or right As I understand it all the adjustment to driving on the right does is remove the kick up and give me a flat beam.

At the moment they are set permanently to flat beam because we drive more on the continent than we do in the UK and they are a pig to change. Does the MOT require the kick up or will it pass with a flat beam please?

I have my dipped beam lamps permanently set to flat beam as I spend 95% of my time in mainland Europe.

It passes the MOT each year.

 

[gus-lopez]

i am a bit concerned about my exhaust although its rhd the exhaust exits over the passengers side towards the kerb

It doesn't matter where it exits

Does the MOT require the kick up or will it pass with a flat beam please?

Yes

 

[peterc10]

Yes

Is that yes to the first or second question?

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