LEZ London and other area’s (1 Viewer)

[ivorantony]

Perhaps of interest to Motorhome owners living in the old London GLC area as they will be bringing in
The new LEZ to cover that area from October this year,
If like us you have uprated your Motorhome to give you a bigger load allowance, In our case 3500kg to 3900kg you are now classified as a HGV and unless you are Euro6 or better you will be expected to pay a £100 a day to travel in the LEZ,

I will have to reduce my MAUW weight to 3500 to avoid these charges so will have to travel light from now on,
Bureaucracy gone mad in my opinion as I live just 50 yds into the old GLC area and of course any pollution I produced
Will not be a problem at 3500kg but will at 3900kg,
As my motorhome stands idle for long periods but then goes travelling for weeks at a time I consider my Euro4 compliant engine
To be a much less a pollutant than a HGV doing stop/ Start deliveries ,
Sorry rant over

 

[poppycamper]

Justifiable rant!!!

 

[Riverbankannie]

I think we can all understand your frustration.

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[LesW]

The Idiot Khan is on record saying that polluttion from vehicles is killing people.. I think 'thousands' was his esimate.

So his answer is, pay me some money and you can carry on killing people..

 

[westhamman]

It also means that journeys may be a lot further as some vehicles will now travel from just outside the north circular to the m25 and around greater london when it is much shorter distance through London, so creating pollution.

 

[nicholsong]

It also means that journeys may be a lot further as some vehicles will now travel from just outside the north circular to the m25 and around greater london when it is much shorter distance through London, so creating pollution.

But it will not be on Khan's patch or watch, so job done.

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[Sandancers]

The Idiot Khan is on record saying that polluttion from vehicles is killing people.. I think 'thousands' was his esimate.

So his answer is, pay me some money and you can carry on killing people..

Guess it would have dented his coffers too much to try the system of "odd numberplates one day, even numberplates the next" Then you arrange your journey to suit your no pay day, but if you ventured out on the wrong day you pay a lot of money for the privilege. But the actual amount of traffic on the roads would be more or less halved each day. Yes, I know some people would have two cars, but many would find ways to car share or use public transport etc.

 

[Madcaravanner]

As the owner of a tax exempt vehicle I know why you're screaming I would be if I lived down there, I could drive there without cost, but would I want to -

The UK seems to be out to extract as much money from people as possible, compared to France and Germany

 

[PhilG]

Another reason for never going, not that I needed one. Sucks if you live there.

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[ivorantony]

Another reason for never going, not that I needed one. Sucks if you live there.

actually I’m right on the Kent boarder but just in enough to have to pay, unfortunately the small lanes around here make it difficult for a motorhome without using the main road, And that has a ANPR camera,
I will downplate her and take a hit on what I carry,

 

[tuscancouple]

So his answer is, pay me some money and you can carry on killing people..

Not really is it, it's to discourage folks from going in the zone with high polluting vehicles. I certainly would not want to live there! ? Guess if £100 a day doesn't discourage enough people they'll put the charge up, would £500/day work?

Mick

 

[mitzimad]

Perhaps of interest to Motorhome owners living in the old London GLC area as they will be bringing in
The new LEZ to cover that area from October this year,
If like us you have uprated your Motorhome to give you a bigger load allowance, In our case 3500kg to 3900kg you are now classified as a HGV and unless you are Euro6 or better you will be expected to pay a £100 a day to travel in the LEZ,

I will have to reduce my MAUW weight to 3500 to avoid these charges so will have to travel light from now on,
Bureaucracy gone mad in my opinion as I live just 50 yds into the old GLC area and of course any pollution I produced
Will not be a problem at 3500kg but will at 3900kg,
As my motorhome stands idle for long periods but then goes travelling for weeks at a time I consider my Euro4 compliant engine
To be a much less a pollutant than a HGV doing stop/ Start deliveries ,
Sorry rant over

assuming you van is diesel ive got some bad news and good news .bad news it has to be euro 6 even at 3500kg good news its october 2021 it starts
The situation your describing above already applies with the lez over 3500

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[Allanm]

We went to a campsite within the original LEZ last year. I have asthma and was amazed at how clean the air seemed compared to the journey there round the M25.
If this is how London is going to be like in the future, I'm all for it.
However, I can understand the frustration of people who are now included in the enlarged zone. If the councils were serious about keeping down pollution and working for the people, I think they should buy new compliant vehicles for everyone affected by the new rules.....

 

[Odd job]

Perhaps of interest to Motorhome owners living in the old London GLC area as they will be bringing in
The new LEZ to cover that area from October this year,
If like us you have uprated your Motorhome to give you a bigger load allowance, In our case 3500kg to 3900kg you are now classified as a HGV and unless you are Euro6 or better you will be expected to pay a £100 a day to travel in the LEZ,

I will have to reduce my MAUW weight to 3500 to avoid these charges so will have to travel light from now on,
Bureaucracy gone mad in my opinion as I live just 50 yds into the old GLC area and of course any pollution I produced
Will not be a problem at 3500kg but will at 3900kg,
As my motorhome stands idle for long periods but then goes travelling for weeks at a time I consider my Euro4 compliant engine
To be a much less a pollutant than a HGV doing stop/ Start deliveries ,
Sorry rant over

Have you registered for the congestion charge, as a resident? It should give you longer to comply

 

[nicholsong]

assuming you van is diesel ive got some bad news and good news .bad news it has to be euro 6 even at 3500kg good news its october 2021 it starts
The situation your describing above already applies with the lez over 3500

What about vehicles that were already deemed compliant e.g. Euro 3 up to 3500kg are they going to be non-compliant?

I have a house in the ols LEZ.

Geoff

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[mitzimad]

everything has to be euro 6 if its diesel including cars, its a tax on the poor anyone who has a company vehicle or the means to upgrade every 3 years its not a problem its those who currently run cars over 6 years old who will have to pay good news is mister kanh is going to give me 3k towards a new electric van all i have to do is find the other 57k(i didnt give 3k for my van ive got now 55 plate)

 

[robrace]

Our transit tdi is euro 5 and we use Abbey Wood campsite fairly regulary,its under 3500 so do I take it that we can still go there this year and next?I will worry about 2022 when it comes!

 

[PeteH]

There should be a legal challenge to this. The use of retrospective legislation runs counter to traditional way of implementing new Law. Sadly "Citizen" Kahn, is the usual political cretin who somehow believes "his" way is good for every one. Glad I don`t live anywhere near the stinking poo hole. The worst thing about the M25 is the fact that it has on ramps with access from "his" Fiefdom, oversight of the part of the designers!.

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[Riverbankannie]

Our transit tdi is euro 5 and we use Abbey Wood campsite fairly regulary,its under 3500 so do I take it that we can still go there this year and next?I will worry about 2022 when it comes!

My reading of new regs is that they only apply to over 3500
BROKEN LINK

 

[mitzimad]

My reading of new regs is that they only apply to over 3500
BROKEN LINK

thats this year for over 3500 next year its blanket

 

[GWAYGWAY]

I think some of the obscuring lacquer on the number plates might just work. either that or plates the 'fall off' or get nicked when you need them to. How about a bright infrared LED in the centre of the plate to dazzlw the cameras. trouble is there are only so many X Y or Z motorhomes on the road m and they would love a FRAUD case to boost the coffers.

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[Riverbankannie]

thats this year for over 3500 next year its blanket

Thanks for putting me right . That’s tough .

 

[PhilG]

khan is a tw@t

 

[gus-lopez]

Not really is it, it's to discourage folks from going in the zone with high polluting vehicles. I certainly would not want to live there! ? Guess if £100 a day doesn't discourage enough people they'll put the charge up, would £500/day work?

Mick

No. Those who can claim it back on tax as anaexpense just pay less tax.

What about vehicles that were already deemed compliant e.g. Euro 3 up to 3500kg are they going to be non-compliant?

I have a house in the ols LEZ.

Geoff

Yes. I argued that during his " consulatation "process .No one showed any interest until just before the Ulez came in then they all started moaning that they had to pay 12,50/day just living their.

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[martin2603]

Domestic boilers within the LEZ contribute 20%of the CO2 . Same as all the vehicle traffic. Why has he not banned them also ?

 

[DerryW]

Khan and Bercow a couple of first rate numpty's

 

[Paddywack]

It seems people have forgotten who originally proposed this?

Mayor confirms world’s first Ultra Low Emission Zone.

Mayor confirms world’s first Ultra Low Emission Zone, and welcomes more money for cleaner taxis.

www.london.gov.uk

Off course it might just be that they enjoy venting their spleen over folk called Kahn?

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[romany]

It seems people have forgotten who originally proposed this?

Mayor confirms world’s first Ultra Low Emission Zone.

Mayor confirms world’s first Ultra Low Emission Zone, and welcomes more money for cleaner taxis.

www.london.gov.uk

Off course it might just be that they enjoy venting their spleen over folk called Kahn?

He never really recovered from his starring role in jungle book been hated ever since

 

[nicholsong]

Yes. I argued that during his " consulatation "process .No one showed any interest until just before the Ulez came in then they all started moaning that they had to pay 12,50/day just living their.

Gus, my house is in the outer LEZ not the ULEZ.

Those in the ULEZ have to comply or pay the LEZ £100p.d. PLUS the ULEZ £12.50

Geoff

 

[ChrisL]

I don't think anyone can say that we don't need a LEZ, no body wants to live in a smog filled environment (I live just inside as well), however whilst larger motorhomes may be heavy polluters on a per mile basis, on an annual basis they are probably one of the least polluting, so should be exempt from the latest changes in my humble opinion.

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