If you are going to the NEC, visit the Fiamma stand as there is an uinregistered new Autocruise PVC on there loaded with Fiamma extras and at a very special show price.
Peter
Peter
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If you are going to the NEC, visit the Fiamma stand as there is an uinregistered new Autocruise PVC on there loaded with Fiamma extras and at a very special show price.
Peter
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Hi Pete as I understand the vans are only 6 ft 4 ins wide (never measured one) but if my understanding is corect that is to the outside walls not inc the internal strenghening ribs which would knock another 2 ins off the internal width unless the converters build around them ? I would think they would stick an inch of insulation inbetween the ribs and board over them making 6 ft 2 ins wide at the most ? Have you measured it ? or just taken the bump they print ? would be interested to know the answers? simply because I have never measured one,but it would be high on my list to convert because the wider van gives that little bit more internal space :thumb: THAT IS WHY i DID THE AMBULANCE not too long :thumb:The fixed, cross bed in mine is 6'4" x 4'4" and there is loads of storage space underneath.
The lounge seats 4 in reasonable comfort.
The shower space is tight and for some strange reason the WC is high, so any one under 5'3" would need steps to get on it.
These things ain't cheap but they do hold their value well.
It is also rated at 3.5 Tonne.
Pete:Cool:
Hi John you need the ambulance for insulation Made up from 1.5 mm ali (CB are .5 mm ali)bonded to 5 mm ply bonded to 45 mm styrofoam bonded to 1.5 mm ali then 3 mm ply that I fitted :thumb: the floor is the same with an extra 5 mm ply layer bonded to the ali then the flooring we added,and 35 mm of spongy stuff underneath that is covered in underseal that they fitted :thumb:I keep bumping my head in PVCs!
Plus there's not enough room anywhere for any of the things we carry! The winterisation is non-existant, the tanks too small, the washroom to small and not enough berths.
However, for those folk smaller than us, with less kit, close to facilities and who only go out in the warmer months, the convenience of a a more compact PVC is ideal!:thumb:
Hi Pete as I understand the vans are only 6 ft 4 ins wide (never measured one) but if my understanding is corect that is to the outside walls not inc the internal strenghening ribs which would knock another 2 ins off the internal width unless the converters build around them ? I would think they would stick an inch of insulation inbetween the ribs and board over them making 6 ft 2 ins wide at the most ? Have you measured it ? or just taken the bump they print ? would be interested to know the answers? simply because I have never measured one,but it would be high on my list to convert because the wider van gives that little bit more internal space :thumb: THAT IS WHY i DID THE AMBULANCE not too long :thumb:
Hi John you need the ambulance for insulation Made up from 1.5 mm ali (CB are .5 mm ali)bonded to 5 mm ply bonded to 45 mm styrofoam bonded to 1.5 mm ali then 3 mm ply that I fitted :thumb: the floor is the same with an extra 5 mm ply layer bonded to the ali then the flooring we added,and 35 mm of spongy stuff underneath that is covered in underseal that they fitted :thumb:
terry
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Cheers PETE I will go out of my way one day to measure a empty panel van,from what you are saying they must be 6 ft 6 ins internal
terry
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Obviously its each to their own but my PVC has the side settee conversion which pulls out to form a large double bed & takes all of 15 seconds to do it. It just seems like a much better use of space in a limited area than having a fixed bed. Mine also has the rear bathroom across the back which is a much rarer conversion layout, like an Autosleeper Topaz but bigger cos its in a Fiat Ducato LWB.
Quite honestly I'm looking for a newer model when I get my Lump sum but haven't seen anything to rival the internal layout so may just hold on to it.
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A lot different for one living in a van than 2 You are right about your mates in the van -Our mate has just jumped in with both feet and opted for a large 6 berth with the all inportant rear lounge but at only 5 ft it is too small for 2 singles and too small for 4 of us to sit comfortable oh:We ended up with us two at the back with wives sat at the dinette blocked off by the loo oh: Next night we all ended up in our van simply because we can all sit comfy and see each other plus get to the fridge/ drinks easy He now begining to realise he's bought the wrong layoutAnyone who says a panel van is too small.
I live in one full time (2 and a half years now). This weekend I had two friends visit in their brand new demountable. It was too cold to sit outside.
Theirs only has a 2 seater dinette so we all went back to my van and were in there from 8pm till 1:30 am, watching youtube clips, listening to music, drinking beer and having a laugh..
If I can entertain 2 people in my van and live in it fulltime I don't think a PVC can be considered too small.
We are buying a pop up gazebo for the next meet though as 3 people smoking is such a small space was interesting
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PVC, nah, leather every time, the look the smell the feel, the taste
something that is tactile
Should you be posting pictures of your wife on here?
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I do admit, I am a beginner ('van less too) but I have done a lot of research here and elsewhere on the 'net.
PVC's (oo err matron) get a short shrift I think. It would appear that many people consider them too small, not comfy enough and not 'serious' motorhomes.
I think this is a personal issue and really depends on so many variables. For the last few years our (me and Mrs Chox) holidays etc have been tent orientated, either in a tent, in a car with tent annexe or cycle camping. Now compared to tents even the smallest van (VW etc) is a positive luxury! so a 6mx2m 'van is heaven to us.
For us the need is to be able to tour, to voyage, to travel.........not spend a week on the same site. We like out of the way places and prefer wild camping to 'organised sites'. When covering long distances fuel consumption is important. When we get there we like to spend time out and about, cycling, surfing, walking etc. So a big lounge for example is a low priority.
When it comes to fixed bed.....yes please! we don't want to make up a bed every night.
We are intending to finish work in the near future and spend more time travelling so the choice of motorhome is now very important. High on the list of desirables are:
Modern
Fuel efficient
Reliable
Compact
Cozy
Independent
storage
Suitable for narrow lanes and small car parks
Huge support network (motor)
Berths for two with occasional need for four
All of this leads us to Panel Van Conversions.............(Fiat Ducato esp') what's not to like!?
I should add that for three years we lived and travelled full time on a sailing yacht so we are quite familiar with living in a small space, saving water and electricity etc.
For us the journey is just as important as the destination.
So come on all you 'van owners, let's hear some more positive comments about van conversions (no coach built remarks here ) !!
(hard hat and flak jacket on)
Cheers
Chox
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A great little van but remember you do not get a rolls for the price of a mini.
Happy hunting:thumb:
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