Legal requirements in France......advice please

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  1. Larby

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    I thought the fine for not having 2 was €11. If you used 1 then you wouldn't have 2 so would need to carry 3.
    But then it was a non-starter law.
    My son picked a pack up on ferry, asked me if mine where in date , no son no longer needed. A male shelf stacker reared up and aggressively told me they were.
     
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    Trafico officers require wheels stopped for the count of 4 here.

    No quite common here. The local Ford dealers spare parts man will not serve you without the chassis number & only grudgingly with a registration number. :DEven better is to go in there asking for parts which were never originally fitted to your vehicle.:sneaky:Utter nightmare, but hysterical :LOL:at the time. I got them in the end even though it was like a monty python sketch.

    But you only had to carry 1 not 2. You couldn't be asked to carry any more than the required amount & , as I posted before ,you couldn't be asked to actually use that as it would leave you with none & they would therefore be ' conspiring to commit an offence ' by actually asking. So it was never even a starter.
     
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    I was quite sure you did know. I just posted to add the warning that the marketing 'as required' is a con., and why.

    Geoff
     
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    There was I all smug as I have a digital safe installed and thought "I know where I will store my original documents" but if the vehicle is stolen.... there goes my docs too!

    I will take a photo of my V5 on my phone for the French police until an original copy can be obtained?
     
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    It amuses me that it is a legal requirement to carry registration documents in some countries, but I have seen British Police advice not to do so, and it is not a legal requirement in UK.

    So if the vehicle is legal in UK without the V5C what happened to the the idea that it must be legal in country of registration?

    Just askin'

    Geoff
     
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    It’s a requirement of the Vienna Convention on Road Traffic (the same treaty that specifies that a vehicle being driven in a foreign country must meet the legal requirements of its country of registration) that a vehicle being driven in a foreign country must be carrying its registration document.
     
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    I've only just come to this thread....

    We spend most of our time in France and the gendarmes do carry out random checks and they do ask to see all your docs. We carry a colour copy of our V5 which is indistinguishable from the original.

    A couple of other points - as a previous poster said, you need hi vis vests for everyone in the vehicle, but they must be reachable from the seats before you exit the vehicle, so no stashing them away in a side locker.

    Another point to remember is that whenever you come to a town/village and the name sign is bordered in red, that is automatically a 50kpmh limit unless it states otherwise. Most places make a token gesture at slowing you down with a 70 sign - usually about 100 metres from the start of the 50! Assume the limit continues until you pass the town name with a line through it.

    And now for the good news - in July, the government intends to reduce the national limit for non-dual carriageway roads from 90 to 80. At the moment there's a lot of yelling from drivers but I'm not sure if it will make much difference.

    For all that, France is beautiful and a great place to tour. They love camping cars, as they call us, as witnessed by the many aires. Oh, and on the subject of aires, they are officially classified as car parks so you can get into trouble if you open your awning, set out the picnic tables, hang out the washing, etc.

    I hope all that helps. Come on over and have a great time.
     
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    hya beware that traffic coming from the right has priority in some small villages even if you are on main road it makes you jump if a car comes straight out of a side road some or most main roads have a passage protected sign
     
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    Just back from Bergundy, went through Arras, and into champers territory, and across to Bordeaux land, so you'll have a good drive.
    All the above. "Airwave" got it all including one breathalyzer needed. API is advance passenger information for the Eurotunnel, always filling that out.
    Cheers
     
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  10. Camdoon

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    Been stopped twice in France over the past 4 years.
    in 2014 they set up a road block in the middle of a small town and breathalysed everyone passing through. Despite switching my headlights off as they were not aligned for France then switching them on again when I realised I had no lights (Fiat), they took no notice of this and did not ask for a breathalyser.
    Stopped last week at a peage coming north from Reims, where they asked for my driving licence and checked it through a tablet. Happy with that, said it was a bit froid and on our way in a couple of minutes.
    As for the API; we were taking a 16yo German student to France with us and completed the API early to ensure smooth passage; no problem they did not even look at her on the way over although the French did. On the way back the UK passport controller did have a chat and we did not have the documents immediately to hand but they were happy; I explained we had filled in the API so had expected to be quizzed then. As the CO said "We are far more interested in who is coming in rather than who is leaving". Makes you wonder why the API is not required for entering the country rather than leaving.
     
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    It is .I fill it in both ways as I book singles.
     
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    New one on me. We have met off-spring in Europe and driven them back and not APIed them. Every day is a learning day on here.
     
  13. Nookie Bear

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    Bonjour folks
    Well I have read lots on this subject here and as I live here in Normandie ( for more than 25 yrs ) and travel a lot in France I hope to give you the benefit of my knowledge on the subject of holidaying , traveling in France ;
    So here goes ;
    You need in your camping car ( whoops Motorhome !!)
    Your Log Book orginal !! Your insurance (Orginal ) Your MOT orgininal ( If applies)
    Also 1 triangle 2 in Spain Alcotest ? not really no law about it now !! Frankly thats about it Oh and of course your Driving licence . Re the things like 2 pairs of glasses etc . don't go to deep into the law etc . The French are infact are realists and normally not a great problem , Just stay polite , but Firm if a Gendarme is a bit pushy Stand your ground if you know you are right ; He will back down when he sees you are not threatened by he's attitude .
    Generally not a great problem But !! Whatch your speed as the "Flic" ( gendarmes ) are everywhere at the moment Yes they hide behind trees etc Its true and actually sad But they will enforce speeding rigorously . If fined on the spot will escort you to a cash machine to pay the fine !!! Apparently its for our safety Yeaa Right they are just tax collectors and earn points for fines imposed !!! Sad ehh ? but its true . Oh and if at a STOP sign wait Stop !! as if your wheels are not Stopped and there s a tree nearby he could be hiding and its a fine . Don't worry about whats behind you , its their problem ;
    So Dear friends France is a great country with lots to see and do and You can use your Cruise control here as frankly the roads are good many long straights to benefit from .
    So Happy holidays Yeahh off to the SUN ( remenber that ?)
    Abientot
    Mike ( Nookie Bear!!, its a long story !!)
     
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    Thanks for all the info Nookie Bear (Mike), I can say I have been stopped twice by Gendarmes stating my Staffie is a Pit Bull. I have politely stood my ground and said he is not banned or listed as a dangerous breed in either the UK or France and referred him to their import laws.
    http://www.ambafrance-uk.org/Introduire-ou-reintroduire-mon,17662
    As I don't wish to argue I have printed a slip of paper which I hand to the Gendarme.
    (see below, my words translated by Google)

    They have actually looked up the reference and accepted what I said and have stroked him, they are thorough I have found.



    Mon nom est ALFIE, je suis un Anglais Staffordshire Bull Terrier. (Staffy)
    Nous ne sommes pas une race interdite en Angleterre ou en France et qui ne figurent pas dangereux. voir ci-dessous
    Je n'ai aucun lien PITBULLS même si je regarde similaire.
    Nous aimons la compagnie des humains en particulier les enfants.
    S'il vous plaît me caresser.

    http://www.ambafrance-uk.org/Introduire-ou-reintroduire-mon,17662
     
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  15. Clarky

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    On the subject of 'Le Flic' and speeding fines be particularly careful this week.
    There is an EU wide initiative to combat speeding which is being enforced both in Britain and across the water for the rest of this week.
    UK police are certainly using hand held speed devices according to our local TV news.

    Richard.
     
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    Agreed but I have NEVER seen a Gendarme wearing one whilst standing in the busy road checking if I have one!
     
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    No, No Sir, not true. Bulbs always go into the ground; end of!

    Once and electrical engineer, always a pain in the butt :D2
     
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    Only just found time to read this thread and whilst I agree with everything already said there is one item missing. If you are taking a child who is not yours - eg grandchild - you should carry a note signed by the child's parent giving permission for you to take said minor out of the country. We take our great grandson to France every year and I am always asked for the 'letter of authority'. I forgot one year and Tristan, then aged six, was asked by the immigration officer who I was. Needless to say, he said he didn't know and when I suggested to him that he should tell the nice man what he calls me, he pretended to be confused and wouldn't say. Fortunately, the official found other questions that eventually elicited the correct information from the little darling and we were allowed to continue .... It may seem a bit of a joke but in the present climate re immigration it is taken very seriously.
     
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    Spot on! Great advice.

    We had the same with my Belgian partners son (who even has a different surname to her in his passport as most Belgian women keep their birth family name after marriage but the children take the fathers family name (Roman Law) I'm told). We had to have a solicitors letter to the same effect.
     
  20. Podney

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    Thanks for that Gillygrim. Unlikely we will be taking our grandchildren as aiming to avoid school holidays most of the time,but who knows. Oh,and we haven’t any more seatbelts so that’s the decider!
     

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