Latest update on travelling abroad after Brexit (1 Viewer)

[Speve]

The 90 days as always applied just not enforced and it is always recommend you have separate full medical cover .?

Didn’t dispute that just your date?

 

[Jenka]

Didn’t dispute that just your date?

Didn't mention any dates ? ?

 

[Bluemooner]

I have registered my Fifth Wheel just in case not put the number plate on though

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[Wild Brambles]

Play safe and get an ENG plate.

 

[Speve]

Didn't mention any dates ? ?

Nothing changes until 31December .so why worry about anything until it's settled .

not according to your posts??

 

[Deneb]

The 90 days as always applied just not enforced and it is always recommend you have separate full medical cover .?

Citizens of an EU member state have an unlimited right to travel anywhere in the zone, but if they stay more than 90 days in any single state other than their own they are supposed to register their presence with the authorities. How is that the same as being limited to 90 days in the entire zone in any 180 day rolling period when you could if you had wanted to have spent 365 days every year travelling around the EU moving between individual states at least every 90 days?

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[Jenka]

Citizens of an EU member state have an unlimited right to travel anywhere in the zone, but if they stay more than 90 days in any single state other than their own they are supposed to register their presence with the authorities. How is that the same as being limited to 90 days in the entire zone in any 180 day rolling period when you could if you had wanted to have spent 365 days every year travelling around the EU moving between individual states at least every 90 days?

Then nothing to worry about ! ?

 

[Pete5996]

Then nothing to worry about ! ?

Not until the end of this year, no. Although our status as EU citizens will, strictly speaking, end on 31st January, nothing will change during the transition period. After that you will no longer be a citizen of an EU member state and with the introduction of ETIAS in early 2021, you will need to obtain an ETIAS document to enter the Schengen area before travelling. At the Schengen border you will be 'clocked-in' and you'll have a maximum of 90 days throughout the Schengen area.

Enjoy it while you can!

 

[busby]

Then nothing to worry about ! ?

Not worried,,,??

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[funflair]

ETIAS web site says,

You could potentially need ETIAS!
As of now, it is still unclear how traveling for Britons will be arranged in a post-Brexit Europe.
The UK and EU will be negotiating about the free movement of people, and there is a possibility that the outcome would be: ETIAS for UK citizens!

 

[Southdowners]

Not until the end of this year, no. Although our status as EU citizens will, strictly speaking, end on 31st January, nothing will change during the transition period. After that you will no longer be a citizen of an EU member state and with the introduction of ETIAS in early 2021, you will need to obtain an ETIAS document to enter the Schengen area before travelling. At the Schengen border you will be 'clocked-in' and you'll have a maximum of 90 days throughout the Schengen area.

Enjoy it while you can!

That's hardly an insurmountable problem is it?

The ETIAS visa costs £7 and lasts for three years.

The purpose of ETIAS is to identify potential terrorist and criminal threats who will then be refused entry. Surely it's a good thing - anything that stops terrorists entering the country must be a step in the right direction.

It's nothing to do with us leaving the EU.

 

[spitfire]

That's hardly an insurmountable problem is it?

The ETIAS visa costs £7 and lasts for three years.

The purpose of ETIAS is to identify potential terrorist and criminal threats who will then be refused entry. Surely it's a good thing - anything that stops terrorists entering the country must be a step in the right direction.

It's nothing to do with us leaving the EU.

Of course it has to a degree as U.K. citizens will become TCNs in Europe ( third country nationals ) so the same rules will apply for other TCNs such as Australian , Canadians and all nationals outside the EU . I would think as now these visitors passports are scanned on a Europe wide data base to check they adhere to the 90 day rule so that us the U.K. status for the future .

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[Deneb]

It's nothing to do with us leaving the EU.

Of course it is, because if we remained an EU member state we would continue to have free movement without the requirement to obtain ETIAS.

 

[Khizzie]

One interesting difference that I noticed when leaving the ferry at Santander last week was that both our passports, and I assume everyone else’s were scanned before we could get out of the port. Normally it’s been off the ship and straight out but this time it took quite a while.

All four times last year on Portsmouth - Ouisterham and Ouisterham - Portsmouth my passport has been scanned at both entry and departure. Been hapenning for a couple of years to me, so have got used to it.

 

[soreeyes]

I read if we leave before the end of the year with a no deal they will use the same as the US scheme of Etias .

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[2657]

And be ruled by Brussels and Strasbourg.BUSBY.

Even if true I personally would prefer that to Bumbling Boris!

We will all be ruled by someone, makes no difference whatsoever to me if it's some d********d's in London or different d*********d's in Brussels.........or even Strasbourg

 

[David and Sally]

We will all be ruled by someone, makes no difference whatsoever to me if it's some d********d's in London or different d*********d's in Brussels.........or even Strasbourg

Well I prefer to vote for my d++++++ds rather than have them imposed on me.

 

[Cheshirecat57]

personally, I wasn’t looking for a quick answer to the question, otherwise i would have googled.
I was looking for a long, drawn-out,opinionated, sometimes misguided bit of entertainment

delighted with what I found ?

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[DBK]

The only ones it seems will be affected is those that can at the moment stay more than 90 days ,so in reality a minuscule amount of people

I don't visit for more than 90 days at a time but the restriction will mean I have to change how I do things. For example, I typically spend May and June in France, Italy, Spain or wherever then come back to the UK for July and August. We usually return in September and stay until the end of October but we will no longer be able to do this after we leave the EU completely. This is because July and August do not amount to 90 days so the clock for counting how long we have been there has not been stopped and it will still be including May and June. This means that at the end of September we will have to return to the UK as we would have reached the 90 day limit (May, June and September). The only way to get around this will be to return to the UK at the end of May and stay in the UK over June, July and August. It is not the end of the world but folk will need to keep a tally of the days they are in Schengen to avoid being caught out.

 

[joemocks79]

I'm sure your moan about the forum in the middle of the thread won't make it any easier

Thanks for the similarly helpful addition Jim, maybe if we don't all fall out with each before then we can all try and keep this post going whilst the OP is away for the next 3 months and then maybe we can hope that they can come back to clue us in from their actual experience of getting around Europe and back to the UK after. I'm going to Europe for 6 months in June and I'm not too sure what I need to do about my two dogs at the moment, they have passports but maybe I should fork out for rabies tests and certificates to be doubly sure, maybe not, maybe I should waste money on International driving permits, maybe not. Its all very out of date on the .gov webshite and this forum has not really cleared things up as it appears that you can either chance it with it staying exactly as is or spend extra money and time getting more paperwork to be sure. Considering June is 6 months away and you need a fair few months leadtime for additional rabies jabs and tests to clear a dog via a certificate vs a passport its a fair shout to say its a bit of a shambles that the government can't clarify things on the website so we can get on with it and not waste time, money and dogs getting syringed unnecessarily with vaccines and tests. I appreciate helpful people having a crack at it on this forum but the other people chipping in with their own opinions about how outstanding the government has been and continues to be (they don't appear too worthy of much praise to me if they can't even update a website with some plain guidelines) and then even more backbiting are just wasting more of my time so this post has been less helpful than I had hoped and as a newly paid up member to the forum I was hoping for a little less sniping at each other and more of a friendly community vibe helping each other out. I'm brand new to motorhoming and I'm hoping I'll see less of the tiresome online political opinions and more friendly, wellmeaning advice for fellow travellers and motorhome fans going forwards as I have sooo many questions for my 6 month trip as a MH noob

 

[Pete5996]

Labour were leave with a good deal according to Corbyn. .

I appreciate the clarification - I didn't think anyone in the country actually knew what was in Corbyn's mind.....

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[Casper46]

The only ones it seems will be affected is those that can at the moment stay more than 90 days ,so in reality a minuscule amount of people

It will affect people who own second homes in

I don't visit for more than 90 days at a time but the restriction will mean I have to change how I do things. For example, I typically spend May and June in France, Italy, Spain or wherever then come back to the UK for July and August. We usually return in September and stay until the end of October but we will no longer be able to do this after we leave the EU completely. This is because July and August do not amount to 90 days so the clock for counting how long we have been there has not been stopped and it will still be including May and June. This means that at the end of September we will have to return to the UK as we would have reached the 90 day limit (May, June and September). The only way to get around this will be to return to the UK at the end of May and stay in the UK over June, July and August. It is not the end of the world but folk will need to keep a tally of the days they are in Schengen to avoid being caught out.

We have a similar problem. We have a property in France and visit for 6 weeks at a time. It’s too hot for me in Mid summer so we usually go in May/ June which means we cannot go again until October. We have no family who can use the house when we are not there, we can’t do anything about it, so we have put the house on the market.

 

[Pete5996]

And now people know how 17.4 million feel after 3 odd years of lies and deception

Now it seems to be UK Government policy, it's obviously safe to admit it....

 

[John.]

Affects us as we have a 2nd home which we’ll probably sell but still consider ourselves lucky to have a place abroad in the first place.

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[nicholsong]

Affects us as we have a 2nd home which we’ll probably sell but still consider ourselves lucky to have a place abroad in the first place.

For you and others with a property in EU, why do you not use that address to apply for Residence, not Citizenship, in that country? Then you are sorted for staying as long as you want in that country and for travelling for up to 90 days in any other EU country.

If you hold a UK passport you can return to UK any time and stay as long as you want.

I am applying in Poland, because I live here, but I would also if we had a second home here.

Geoff

 

[busby]

I appreciate the clarification - I didn't think anyone in the country actually knew what was in Corbyn's mind.....

MacDonald did as he controlled him, BUSBY.

 

[busby]

I don't visit for more than 90 days at a time but the restriction will mean I have to change how I do things. For example, I typically spend May and June in France, Italy, Spain or wherever then come back to the UK for July and August. We usually return in September and stay until the end of October but we will no longer be able to do this after we leave the EU completely. This is because July and August do not amount to 90 days so the clock for counting how long we have been there has not been stopped and it will still be including May and June. This means that at the end of September we will have to return to the UK as we would have reached the 90 day limit (May, June and September). The only way to get around this will be to return to the UK at the end of May and stay in the UK over June, July and August. It is not the end of the world but folk will need to keep a tally of the days they are in Schengen to avoid being caught out.

Would think if EU restrict uk citizens movement UK would retaliate by doing the same,,Wonder who the losers would be.Not good for anyone's tourist industries..BUSBY.

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[stevewagner]

I read if we leave before the end of the year with a no deal they will use the same as the US scheme of Etias .

The US scheme is ESTA

 

[stevewagner]

Sorry, you're wrong.... candidates for remain-supporting parties received 16.5 million votes, while candidates for leave-supporting parties received 14.8 million.

Still, when have facts meant anything to Cummings' puppets?

But we don't have proportional representation so that means nothing

 

[spitfire]

For you and others with a property in EU, why do you not use that address to apply for Residence, not Citizenship, in that country? Then you are sorted for staying as long as you want in that country and for travelling for up to 90 days in any other EU country.

If you hold a UK passport you can return to UK any time and stay as long as you want.

I am applying in Poland, because I live here, but I would also if we had a second home here.

Geoff

If it is France then you apply for a Carte de Séjour but to do that you must be resident ie register for tax and health care and show sufficient resources not to be a burden on the state . There seems to be no residence permit for non permanent residents . At the moment Australians with a holiday hone near us leave after 90 days and either go back to Oz or to the U.K. as she has a U.K. passport but he doesn’t and then return after the correct number if days out

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