La Azohia Spain (1 Viewer)

[Gloombusters]

Are any of you Funsters at La Azohia at the moment and can give me an update on the camping situation.
We were down at the Rambla by the church last time but the local Police were clearing the MoHos off at the time.
We camped up down the road next to the Spa supermarket which was fine. There wasn't any fresh water at either and we had to drive up to a BP garage about 12k away . Is this still the case or does anyone know of another source? We are aware of a manhole at each for black waste.
We will of course fill up on route and hope to be there over Christmas. May see some of you there.
Thanks

 

[Boringfrog]

Drinking water at Isla Plana, opposite Covirán.

 

[2657]

Drinking water around 50c for 5/6 litres at Lidl/Aldi

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[Gloombusters]

Thanks for info about purchasing but need 95 litres and admittedly its not expensive but a lot of bottles to pour in the tank for showering. Just a tip I heard once that there is too much calcium in bottled water in your tank and it furs up the boiler etc. ??

 

[BreweryDave]

Apparently there are sites and Aires in Spain

No need to freeload

 

[davanne]

The police have never been keen on the vehicles being parked at La Azohia for as long as I can remember and we started going to the area in the late nineties and as @BreweryDave said there are plenty Aires and campsites so why would anyone want to park on a dusty piece of ground that has no facilities.
On the mountain road between Isla Plana and Cartagena we have seen motorhomes emptying their toilet cassettes in lay-bys
I’ve nothing against wild camping but freeloading is another matter altogether.

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[Neil S]

Are any of you Funsters at La Azohia at the moment and can give me an update on the camping situation.
We were down at the Rambla by the church last time but the local Police were clearing the MoHos off at the time.
We camped up down the road next to the Spa supermarket which was fine. There wasn't any fresh water at either and we had to drive up to a BP garage about 12k away . Is this still the case or does anyone know of another source? We are aware of a manhole at each for black waste.
We will of course fill up on route and hope to be there over Christmas. May see some of you there.
Thanks

Are you allowed to empty toilet waste down street manholes ?

 

[Gloombusters]

Brewerydaves comments I find personally offensive as we are not trying to freeload and never have done! We are stopping by at an aire on the way down to pay for our water and gas and always have done. We merely asked a simple question where we could get water. One should not make personal assumptions about other campers. We could well do without such people upsetting respectable rule abiding members who always respect the rules. Now, have a merry christmas and no more nasty comments please.

 

[Mikeco]

Brewerydaves comments I find personally offensive as we are not trying to freeload and never have done! We are stopping by at an aire on the way down to pay for our water and gas and always have done. We merely asked a simple question where we could get water. One should not make personal assumptions about other campers. We could well do without such people upsetting respectable rule abiding members who always respect the rules. Now, have a merry christmas and no more nasty comments please.

That's funny, your post clearly asked about camping at La Azohia, I am also of the opinion that there are a lot of nice views spoilt by inconsiderate parking for weeks on end.

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[davejmobile]

Hello all planning on traveling down into Spain March April has any body got any nice sites really don't mind paying nice beach area

 

[Boringfrog]

Heading to Spain next Month for 4 Months freeloading, minimal aires. See details of my last (tight arse) trip here:
https://www.motorhomefun.co.uk/forum/threads/heading-to-spain-for-a-month-or-four.147144/

 

[Tim Raphael]

That's funny, your post clearly asked about camping at La Azohia, I am also of the opinion that there are a lot of nice views spoilt by inconsiderate parking for weeks on end.

"Freeloading" in my opinion is both inconsiderate and selfish. We all agree that the facilities in countries such as France, Spain and Portugal etc are why it is such a popular place to go. So why not use them?
We have a house in Murcia as well as being motorhomers and the "moving on" has been a real issue. Why would anyone want to stop with the possibility of being challenged by the police and probably upset local residents, it is beyond understanding.
Those that feel "freeloading" is acceptable lack the understanding that "paying your way" assists the local economy in providing the facilities we so lack in the UK.
It's just a matter of fairness and consideration. When you travel you should always consider where your £/€s will be spent to spread a little more wealth into the local economy.
Or am I missing something?

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[Musicboy]

100% wiv brewery dave... At Villasol there is a large lay by which gets chock a block with vans ... They don't stop for an overnight & there for days . So... where do they dump there stuff etc ... It looks bad in my opinion where there are sites close by .... Same outside la colina Albir site ... Sorry ... I just don't get it . It's no wonder vans get moved on etc etc etc ...
just saying

 

[BreweryDave]

Brewerydaves comments I find personally offensive

Seriously??? Another member who is' offended' !!! And personally offended at that.
Sometimes it's tough to remember rule 1...........but I do


I despair

 

[Boringfrog]

"Freeloading" in my opinion is both inconsiderate and selfish. We all agree that the facilities in countries such as France, Spain and Portugal etc are why it is such a popular place to go. So why not use them?
We have a house in Murcia as well as being motorhomers and the "moving on" has been a real issue. Why would anyone want to stop with the possibility of being challenged by the police and probably upset local residents, it is beyond understanding.
Those that feel "freeloading" is acceptable lack the understanding that "paying your way" assists the local economy in providing the facilities we so lack in the UK.
It's just a matter of fairness and consideration. When you travel you should always consider where your £/€s will be spent to spread a little more wealth into the local economy.
Or am I missing something?

I will be spending nearly 4 Months in Spain, I do not stock up with UK food and drink before going, so I my hard earned is going into the Spanish economy, does it really matter if I don't give a large chunk to some campsite that has all the facilities that I don't need?

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[BreweryDave]

Hmm mm so you don't need to fill with fresh water from a tap or dump your black and grey properly and not down some manhole on the street???
These services all have to be paid for by someone

I'm not averse to occasional nights wild camping in a nice spot for as long as my on board facilities allow, but not freeloading for months on end and always use a site or aire to service the van
The fact that plod are always having to move folk on speaks for itself IMHO

 

[sciac2001]

Are you allowed to empty toilet waste down street manholes ?

Officially NO!
Public health issues, and not to mention the poor sewage maintenance workforce who have to climb down these manholes, most of which will be covered by excretions and worse!
(How would we feel if overseas visitors started doing it here?)

 

[LesW]

'freeloading' seems quite polite to me.. we used to call people like this a p*nce...

Not at all surprised that police are moving them on, we used to have an apartment close to the coast near Roda, the side streets looked like a massive gypsy site at times much to the locals annoyance.

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[davanne]

A good few years ago we bought a large Frankia A class the previous owners took delight in telling us that they went to Spain for 6months each year and never paid for a single nights camping but parked in streets or waste ground.
We asked what they did with their grey and black waste they said they always found somewhere to dispose of it. They said they only ever paid for fuel and any food they might need.
As others have said its not our idea of camping waiting for the police to move you on ...don’t get me wrong we are not averse to wilding in the correct circumstances and when we have full water and empty waste tanks.

 

[busby]

Are you allowed to empty toilet waste down street manholes ?

They are for surface water not sewage,,,BUSBY,,

 

[vwalan]

They are for surface water not sewage,,,BUSBY,,

that depends on what they are .in spain look for saneimento markings . think i spelt that right .
escosa or something in portugal .
in uk sewage are usually marked .
but if its a rainwater road side drain then dont tip in it .
but usually in spain etc if you ask at fuel stations they usually let you use theirs etc . or visit a local sewage works they can be very obliging .
very often surface water drains go to streams and rivers not always into the works .

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[Boringfrog]

OK then, what's the answer? People have be free camping all around the Spanish coast for many years and I cannot see it ending. How many new Aires have appeared recently? Not a lot. Certain areas have been made off limits which have only made the areas that tolerant parking even more popular.

 

[Teuchter]

OK then, what's the answer? People have be free camping all around the Spanish coast for many years and I cannot see it ending. How many new Aires have appeared recently? Not a lot. Certain areas have been made off limits which have only made the areas that tolerant parking even more popular.

IMO the answer is to mainly use Camping sites - after all that is what they exist for!

By all means spend a few nights here & there UNOBSTRUSIVELY "wild camping" but many many places are becoming plagued with motorhomers parking on waste ground or car parks - even aires (in full view of houses and other residences) for weeks or even months on end!!

Not acceptable!! again IMO of course!!

 

[busby]

IMO the answer is to mainly use Camping sites - after all that is what they exist for!

By all means spend a few nights here & there UNOBSTRUSIVELY "wild camping" but many many places are becoming plagued with motorhomers parking on waste ground or car parks - even aires (in full view of houses and other residences) for weeks or even months on end!!

Not acceptable!! again IMO of course!!

When i was in Benicasim this year i noticed on the camper park at Castelon Airfield a German van complete with trailer,smart car and bikes parked up in the same place for 9 weeks. Nowhere to empty loo,,nowhere for grey waste and the only water was across the road on the seafront at a push button drinking water point..Probably the reason he could afford a £70 k van and i am running a sub £20k one. Mind you i bet i didn't smell like him,,,BUSBY

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[GWAYGWAY]

Well after reading this lot I am seriously thinking of not going to Spain. It sounds like it is packed with British Vans and causing as much hoo-haa as a gypsy park-up does here. If I am in danger of being hauled over by the Guardia Civile for some infringement of something of which I know nothing, it will be best avoided. I wanted to drive to Grenada and then stop near and visit Gibraltar. I know nothing about the position of wildcamping overnight there but it sounds distinctly dodgy. Sites might be difficult and expensive especially as I do not know where they are or how to find them at short notice. Whitby/ Scarborough , sounds better and probably cheaper. We were intending to go very shortly as soon as the booking was available, but maybe not, just a bit of France instead. At least there are aires to be found in the books. Last time I was down to Spain I was not impressed by Franco's Tricorne hat thugs leaning on corners with machine guns and big sticks. Sounds like it might be the same, even Barcelona looked good until a few weeks ago.

 

[Boringfrog]

Well after reading this lot I am seriously thinking of not going to Spain. It sounds like it is packed with British Vans and causing as much hoo-haa as a gypsy park-up does here. If I am in danger of being hauled over by the Guardia Civile for some infringement of something of which I know nothing, it will be best avoided. I wanted to drive to Grenada and then stop near and visit Gibraltar. I know nothing about the position of wildcamping overnight there but it sounds distinctly dodgy. Sites might be difficult and expensive especially as I do not know where they are or how to find them at short notice. Whitby/ Scarborough , sounds better and probably cheaper. We were intending to go very shortly as soon as the booking was available, but maybe not, just a bit of France instead. At least there are aires to be found in the books. Last time I was down to Spain I was not impressed by Franco's Tricorne hat thugs leaning on corners with machine guns and big sticks. Sounds like it might be the same, even Barcelona looked good until a few weeks ago.

Do not let people talk you out of Winter in Spain, lots of places where motorhomes park are dead zones out of season and if it wasn't for motorhomers they would be a real ghost town.