Kipor not starting......... (2 Viewers)

mark e

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Good news for some ......................but here it goes.

Kipor IG2000 (yellow varity), been stuck in the garage for 2 to 3 months not started :cry:

Religously done through the summer, but left till now, wont start.

Any suggestions from the generator clang ?

Currently looking at the manual too...................
 

John H

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Good news for some ......................but here it goes.

Kipor IG2000 (yellow varity), been stuck in the garage for 2 to 3 months not started :cry:

Religously done through the summer, but left till now, wont start.

Any suggestions from the generator clang ?

Currently looking at the manual too...................


Look out, here come the Honda owners :ROFLMAO:

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John H

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Has it got plenty of oil? or is it sat on a slope ? a lot of four stroke gennys have a low oil cut out .
 

aba

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hi i had a problem with a genny that i had not a kippor but it wouldn't start.
i removed the spark plug and put a small amount of petrol down the spark plug hole using a syringe screwed the plug back in reconnected the lead and tried to start it.
it fired up straight away. worked every time i had a start problem with it.
just dont put too much down the plug hole.

andy
 
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mark e

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Diablo, how do I check the SPARK ?

Have taken the spark lead off to check it's clean etc, but the Spark :Blush:

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John H

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If you take the spark plug out, re connect the lead to the plug, make sure the body of the plug is earthed ( a jump lead from the frame of the genny to the plug) if you have an old plug screw it in the head by hand to stop petrol vapours escaping, if not make sure you do this outside. make sure the switch is set to run and then pull the genny over, if the plug is ok you should see a blue spark, if the spark is yellow or no spark the plug needs changing or you have an electrical fault.

John
 
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Diablo, how do I check the SPARK ?

Have taken the spark lead off to check it's clean etc, but the Spark :Blush:

Take the plug out put it back on the lead and rest it on the cylinder head, pull the starting cord and see if you have a spark on the plug.
 

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maybe stating the obvious but have you primed the fuel system.....ie..pushed the little plastic bulb on the side 3 or 4 times and opened the filler cap vent.

another option is remove the spark plug and squirt a LITTLE WD40 down the hole.
replace the plug and it WILL start, unless theres an ignition problem.

unlike easystart, which containers ether, the engine doesnt grow to depend on it.

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Planetgen

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Give Planet a call tomorrow, 08452996969 we will talk you through what you need to do. If that does not work you can get it to us and we will take a look for you.
Simon
 
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I had this, and when I checked the oil loads of petrol GUSHED out.

Drained the oil/petrol, filled the oil with new and it works great.

This has happened twice now so I make sure I don't store it with any petrol in the tank :thumb:


HTH

Bryan
 
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mark e

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Thanks peoples, got day off tommorow so will try all the above :thumb:

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robinmclaren

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see no jokes from honda owners

pity you cant push start it

but no heated rear window to keep hands warm

"kippor new model drive wheels and heated rear window sorted"

agree with all the rest , check for spark , clean plug , put fuel in cylinder , refit plug and try starting if no good find a large cliff

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I had this, and when I checked the oil loads of petrol GUSHED out.

Drained the oil/petrol, filled the oil with new and it works great.

This has happened twice now so I make sure I don't store it with any petrol in the tank :thumb:


HTH

Bryan

i think you should leave a cup full in to keep the 'pump' diaphram lubed and stop it drying out.
 
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i think you should leave a cup full in to keep the 'pump' diaphram lubed and stop it drying out.


Does it have a pump? I thought it was gravity fed?

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Planetgen

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It will be gravity fed if it is one of the portables. Remember if you get stuck call us.
Simon
 

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I had this, and when I checked the oil loads of petrol GUSHED out.
Drained the oil/petrol, filled the oil with new and it works great.
This has happened twice now so I make sure I don't store it with any petrol in the tank :thumb:
Bryan

It goes without saying this is going to come back and bite you.

If petrol is bleeding into the oil ( through a diaphragm pump ? ) then get ready to buy a new crank at least.

Let's hope the Planet guy offers you advice accurate.
 

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pity you cant push start it

but no heated rear window to keep hands warm

"kippor new model drive wheels and heated rear window sorted"

agree with all the rest , check for spark , clean plug , put fuel in cylinder , refit plug and try starting if no good find a large cliff

:ROFLMAO:

HI Robin
i was waiting for your post to come LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

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Does it have a pump? I thought it was gravity fed?

i think, as there is no manual petrol tap, it relies on a vacuum diaphram to open the automatic 'tap'

pull the starter, inlet manifold vacuum is produced which pulls the 'tap' plunger, via a short hose from inlet fannymold to 'tap', so allowing fuel flow.
 

chrisgreen

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might be stale petrol ? unleaded left for any lenth of time will go stale.
 

TonyIsh UK

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old petrol ?? drain and refill

Stuck float (if floats are used now adays ?) when starting does the piston sound slopy as if fuel is being drawn in ?

Over / under choked (plug wet ?)

If petrol is being drawn in, try warming the plug (aids petrol evaporation)

Rgds

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pappajohn

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might be stale petrol ? unleaded left for any lenth of time will go stale.

old petrol ?? drain and refill

Stuck float (if floats are used now adays ?) when starting does the piston sound slopy as if fuel is being drawn in ?

Over / under choked (plug wet ?)

If petrol is being drawn in, try warming the plug (aids petrol evaporation)

Rgds

i also thouight of that but 3 months isnt really long enough for fuel to 'go off'.
unless the filler cap wasnt on properly and tight.

my little 650w cheapo is left for many months at a time and usually fires after a few pulls.
 

Planetgen

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It goes without saying this is going to come back and bite you.

If petrol is bleeding into the oil ( through a diaphragm pump ? ) then get ready to buy a new crank at least.

Let's hope the Planet guy offers you advice accurate.

The Planet guy, i hope that does not stick!
All I will say if is you are not sure please dont touch it! :winky:
We fix, service and maintain all different shapes and sizes. Trying to help out a Fun member. It could be lots of things, however like I say if you get stuck we can have a look at it for free. It makes no odds to me but like my signature - I will help when I can.
Simon
 

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Good Advice

Planetgen's advice of not touching sounds good to me.
I bought a new Kippor 2 months ago and could not get it to start. I rang them and I was rang back by Richard and he talked me though everything. His knowledge is second to none and has dealt with every problem there is. After 20 minutes on the phone doing a religious checking procedure we found a connector that had not been pushed in right. Have a Phillips screwdriver on hand because he may talk you through to the inside of it, very simply I may add.
Thanks to them for their excellent after-sales service.
Graham & Jean

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unlike easystart, which containers ether, the engine doesnt grow to depend on it.


Slightly off-topic.

Our jetski always needs a dose of carb-cleaner up the air-intake to get it going.........does this mean it's hooked on the substance!!:Angry:

BW

PS Yes - I know jetskis are about as popular as gennies too:Smile:
 

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Have a good look around,,

You may find a dealer that will give you a bit of part X against a "Honda"
 

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Slightly off-topic.

Our jetski always needs a dose of carb-cleaner up the air-intake to get it going.........does this mean it's hooked on the substance!!:Angry:

BW

PS Yes - I know jetskis are about as popular as gennies too:Smile:

could be.....sounds like it needs something a bit more volitile than petrol.
maybe the cold start mechanism is not working right....too lean for starting.
 
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mark e

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Have a good look around,,

You may find a dealer that will give you a bit of part X against a "Honda"

You know where you can stick you'r OVERPRICED HONDA'S :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

It's so close to starting you wont belive. Have got the slapping noise from the piston, at the end of the pull, and occasionaly, slight farting/backfiring noise from the exhaust too.

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