Keeping a years worth of everyone's computer entries, I can see a disaster on the horizon (1 Viewer)

[buttons]

It took a 15 year old boy to hack Talk Talks data base. Lumping a years worth of someones dater in fact everyone's date in one place will be a breeze to expose. I can see it now porn sites visited by Lady D or view the inner secrets of Victoria B. Sounds like lunacy to me. What do you think.....

 

[9526]

Apparently if you've got nothing to hide, then you've nothing to worry about.

So people keep posting on here anyway

 

[DBK]

But it's a big bad world out there. Look what seems to have happened in Egypt recently? There are a lot of nasty folk trying to kill us, whether we are on buses or trains (7/7) or at some atrocity yet to happen.

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[Glandwr]

I can see as we post the argument being made that Corbyn's communications should be monitored as he, as a result of his stand on Trident, is a threat to national security.

Of course our fair minded Theresa at the Home Office would surely scotch that ........ wouldn't she

Dick

 

[Paddywack]

I can see as we post the argument being made that Corbyn's communications should be monitored as he, as a result of his stand on Trident, is a threat to national security.

Of course our fair minded Theresa at the Home Office would surely scotch that ........ wouldn't she

Dick

His communications were being monitored and had been since GLC days, subject to current judicial inquiry.

Mind you so is everyones now.

 

[sdc77]

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It took a 15 year old boy to hack Talk Talks data base. Lumping a years worth of someones dater in fact everyone's date in one place will be a breeze to expose. I can see it now porn sites visited by Lady D or view the inner secrets of Victoria B. Sounds like lunacy to me. What do you think.....

Don't have a problem with it at all. Why shouldn't our security services be able to access stuff like that so long as their access is legal.
Or are we advocating a nice secret internet where people can do as they want without anyone checking on them ... a pedophiles haven... a terrorists paradise and a criminals hunting ground.
You want them on that wall....

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[barsteward]

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Don't have a problem with it at all. Why shouldn't our security services be able to access stuff like that so long as their access is legal.
Or are we advocating a nice secret internet where people can do as they want without anyone checking on them ... a pedophiles haven... a terrorists paradise and a criminals hunting ground.
You want them on that wall....

Apparently there already is a secret internet called The Dark Web.
Unfortunately I can't see it.

 

[sdc77]

Apparently there already is a secret internet called The Dark Web.

Which you and I can access .... through our isp

 

[GWG]

Doh !! It's not a secret now, is it ? You just told everybody ! Spoilsport.

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[barsteward]

Which you and I can access .... through our isp

How?

 

[Paddywack]

How?

Tor

 

[Langtoftlad]

Six plus pages here
http://www.motorhomefun.co.uk/forum/threads/snoopers-charter-or-national-security.118725/

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[barsteward]

Six plus pages here
http://www.motorhomefun.co.uk/forum/threads/snoopers-charter-or-national-security.118725/

Your forgetting @Langtoflad errr? hum? ...Oh Yes! that's it. Most of us on here suffer from alzheimer's

 

[Langtoftlad]

That's why they need to;
"Keeping a years worth of everyone's computer entries..."

 

[barsteward]

That's why they need to;
"Keeping a years worth of everyone's computer entries..."

In my case it should be forty years, I might then be reminded of the days when I used to emulate "Rudolf Valentino" if indeed I ever did, cos I don't know if I can remember if, I can remember.

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[Jaws]

Well I am baffled .. Why anyone would wanna keep a years worth of porn book marks beats me ...

 

[TheCaller]

Well I am baffled .. Why anyone would wanna keep a years worth of porn book marks beats me ...

Could be handy though. If ever you lost them, you could ask GCHQ to send you a backup.

 

[buttons]

I obviously didn't expect anything but the sort of replies we are getting on here but nothing new in this sort of snooping as anyone's web pages have already been accessible with the nod from a judge.

Following the recent Talk Talk fresco that was again planed and carried out by a 15 year old on a PC in his own bedroom I can see trouble on the horizon. Batching all this information together is just asking for trouble.
Anyway anyone who doesn't want their communications monitored, just has to buy a stamp and send it by land mail. Simples.....

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[FJmike]

It's just snooping on the general public. For all the terroristsame, pedos and others it will just be an inconvenience as they will know how to get round this and not be detected.

 

[gus-lopez]

Could be handy though. If ever you lost them, you could ask GCHQ to send you a backup.

Maybe they can get the photos off my old desk top that died earlier in the year ?

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Anyway anyone who doesn't want their communications monitored, just has to buy a stamp and send it by land mail. Simples.....

Psst, they steam them open.

 

[Peter JohnsCross MH]

could never understand why people keep porn on their computers

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[GJH]

The incidents such as the Talk Talk hacking are a result of companies keeping information on machines which can be made accessible via the Internet and neglecting to implement adequate security.
The answer is not to restrict the ability of law enforcement agencies to protect us but to require companies to be serious about security and keep records of browsing &c on back office machines which have no network link to the Internet.
CSPs have been required to keep a year's worth of phone records since RIPA was implemented and we don't hear of any hacking of those. To expect anything different with browsing records, so long as adequate security is a requirement, is simply scaremongering.

 

[buttons]

The incidents such as the Talk Talk hacking are a result of companies keeping information on machines which can be made accessible via the Internet and neglecting to implement adequate security.
The answer is not to restrict the ability of law enforcement agencies to protect us but to require companies to be serious about security and keep records of browsing &c on back office machines which have no network link to the Internet.
CSPs have been required to keep a year's worth of phone records since RIPA was implemented and we don't hear of any hacking of those. To expect anything different with browsing records, so long as adequate security is a requirement, is simply scaremongering.

This is not how the CEO of Apple see's it. He stated yesterday that these new practices could make our data less safe. I'll take his word over many....

 

[GJH]

This is not how the CEO of Apple see's it. He stated yesterday that these new practices could make our data less safe. I'll take his word over many....

Yes they could - but that's could, not will. It's up to the likes of Apple to do their jobs properly and comply with the law, not cut corners just to profit at the expense of customers.

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[Paddywack]

Yes they could - but that's could, not will. It's up to the likes of Apple to do their jobs properly and comply with the law, not cut corners just to profit at the expense of customers.

So tell me when in the States the Department of Homeland Security was hacked, and the FBI and the CIA hacked, or over here the Inland Revenue, the Ministry of Justice and the Home Office were all hacked was it just that their MacAfee subscriptions had run out?

 

[GJH]

So tell me when in the States the Department of Homeland Security was hacked, and the FBI and the CIA hacked, or over here the Inland Revenue, the Ministry of Justice and the Home Office were all hacked was it just that their MacAfee subscriptions had run out?

Most likely because they did not implement proper security. Too many organisations simply rely on coders rather than programmers these days. Instead of designing and building systems properly they use techniques more akin to a Lego set. Hence why I said the law needs to require companies to be serious about security and keep records of browsing &c on back office machines which have no network link to the Internet.

 

[Paddywack]

Most likely because they did not implement proper security..... Hence why I said the law needs to require companies to be serious about security and keep records of browsing &c on back office machines which have no network link to the Internet.

I'm sorry but these aren't companies, they are government departments, ones that you would expect to have the highest level of security. What these hacking attacks do show is that it is nigh on impossible to create a system that cannot be breached.

You suggest that no network link is the solution, will a one way firewall suffice - here's a little light reading for you:

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Security is a myth, we should all accept that fact and behave accordingly.

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[GJH]

I'm sorry but these aren't companies, they are government departments, ones that you would expect to have the highest level of security. What these hacking attacks do show is that it is nigh on impossible to create a system that cannot be breached.

You suggest that no network link is the solution, will a one way firewall suffice - here's a little light reading for you:

Broken Link Removed

Security is a myth, we should all accept that fact and behave accordingly.

Yes, I should have changed my wording to "organisations" rather than "companies" to include government departments.
If I thought a one way firewall would suffice then I should have said that. The browsing archive should be kept on a machine which is physically separate. Perfectly achievable.