Just priced to update our motorhome 👀

[Bustup15]

At our German dealer having annual damp check (€105 compared to last year in UK £230+!)

As you do, looked at current models and got into discussion about prices.

Costed our model from 2018 order (2019 delivery) plus a few extras like self levelling and air suspension.

Cost increase of €100,000 and an estimated delivery of 12 months. No price guarantee as Dethleff have only assured costs until June 23 on firm orders.

Just waiting to have the value on ours confirmed to see how much of a shortfall we have or need a much bigger premium bond win than received to date .

 

[Howard B]

Cant be right, prices are falling according to some.

 

[Spriddler]

Cost increase of €100,000

Blimey, I had no idea that there could be any make of motorhome that would support an increase of 100,000 euros.

 

[barsteward]

Top of the range (Dethleffs) £136,000 at Lowdhams

 

[DerryW]

Yes but the OP’s current vehicle would have cost more than £36k even in 2018. Cost of change probably nearer £50k sill an astronomical amount in 3 years.

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[Spriddler]

Top of the range (Dethleffs) £136,000 at Lowdhams

Pffft! I would be there like a shot were it not for having to find the money to pay for the extortionate £230 annual cost for the hab checks.

 

[Bustup15]

Top of the range (Dethleffs) £136,000 at Lowdhams

Hardly, 'FROM' £136000 before adding any of the multitude of available extras, leather, lithium, electric packs, lighting packs, solar etc etc. Also that isn't top of the range .

Base price of an Alpa A class is €156000.

 

[barsteward]

Hardly, 'FROM' £136000 before adding any of the multitude of available extras, leather, lithium, electric packs, lighting packs, solar etc etc. Also that isn't top of the range .

Base price of an Alpa A class is €156000.

I stand corrected Still seems like an awfully large increase though.

 

[Chris51]

We were in Stafford and went to the Hymer place....WOW a 6 mtr PVC £106k ..nothing below £68k What kind of people are buying these at those prices ?Made me feel like a peasant!!

 

[barsteward]

We were in Stafford and went to the Hymer place....WOW a 6 mtr PVC £106k ..nothing below £68k What kind of people are buying these at those prices ?Made me feel like a peasant!!

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[Reallyretired]

The equivilant of my Hymer new is a whisker under £100k in basic form and thats at the low end of their range

 

[Sandancers]

So all the people that have motorhomes worth 2, 3 or even 4 times the price of ours, do you get 2,3 or 4 times the fun out of it do you think ?

 

[funflair]

So all the people that have motorhomes worth 2, 3 or even 4 times the price of ours, do you get 2,3 or 4 times the fun out of it do you think ?

Most likely not but does that matter?

 

[DuxDeluxe]

So all the people that have motorhomes worth 2, 3 or even 4 times the price of ours, do you get 2,3 or 4 times the fun out of it do you think ?

You know the answer….. I think I’m sticking with my 8 year old Le Voyageur

 

[Lenny HB]

You missed the boat at Caravan Salon most German manufacturers were doing garranted price if you ordered at the show. We found the price increases offset by the higher trade in, S/H prices seem to have gone up more than new which helps a lot.
Still had to pay well over 100k for smallest Carthago.

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[Sapper520]

Just priced ours up from this year’s brochure…..having ordered ours in January 2020, couple of months before lockdown, taking delivery in September 2020.

Including all the extras we had at 2020 prices, as I have no idea how much it would cost now, the same van would be £15k to £18k more, but that was from the 2022 brochure. Looking at Sunlight dealers, none are showing prices for 2023 / 2024 it’s all POA.

We would definitely have been priced out of the new market, and having looked at numerous Used ones (allegedly immaculate) we’d have given up the idea of owning one.

 

[stevewagner]

You missed the boat at Caravan Salon most German manufacturers were doing garranted price if you ordered at the show. We found the price increases offset by the higher trade in, S/H prices seem to have gone up more than new which helps a lot.
Still had to pay well over 100k for smallest Carthago.

Are you importing or buying in the UK?

 

[Lenny HB]

Are you importing or buying in the UK?

Buying in the UK for the first time, hardly any advantage importing at the moment.

 

[stevewagner]

Buying in the UK for the first time, hardly any advantage importing at the moment.

We are thinking of doing the same

 

[Lenny HB]

We are thinking of doing the same

Also they may soon stop accepting a European C of C and getting insurance on the VIN is getting harder, so could be a lot more hassle in a years time when delivery is lightly.

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[Brains]

Our Hymer, which we bought in 2019, but fitted with awning, tracker, TV, Satnav, oven, carpets, etc. etc. we paid £67k.
Same model today, but factory version with zero fittings, is £87k,
or by the time you have added the basics, no change from £95-100k !!!

We could sell ours, with 20k miles on the clock and 6+ months of night usage, for more than we paid for it 3 years ago!

I was in touch with our insurers, Comfort, to make sure that the current price was HIGHER than the original replacement cost.
Talking to the staff, I was not the first call on the subject, and they have a problem, as their software automatically decreases the value of vehicles every year, it's not geared up to deal with a vehicle that increases in value year on year.

(Having said which, Land Rovers and S class Merc's have also traditionally increased value year on year.
We bought a 110 Defender in 1997, put 50k on the clock, sold it 12 years later for £500 more than we had paid!)

 

[Ninjabob]

Paid £51.7k for our Bailey in 2017 added E&P, VB Comfort Air on rear, bigger tyres on rear, weight upgrade, Truma Comfort Air Con, Oyster 3 Skew, towbar, spare wheel plus carrier etc. The cost of all that equivalent now would be £97k absolutely bonkers!!

 

[dash300]

So all the people that have motorhomes worth 2, 3 or even 4 times the price of ours, do you get 2,3 or 4 times the fun out of it do you think ?

Depends on the price to fun exchange rate I guess and how you measure your fun quotient! The latest Fiat Series 8 with all it's updates and ZF auto box is a marked improvement on previous models so who knows.

 

[Coastal Cruiser.]

So all the people that have motorhomes worth 2, 3 or even 4 times the price of ours, do you get 2,3 or 4 times the fun out of it do you think ?

Cost has nothing to do with it, as with anything else you pay what you can afford or want to spend.
I had a new van as I had the spare money to spend had I not had that I may have bought a cheaper van.

 

[Kayak Kid]

I bought my Chausson 711 Traveline new with the addition of an awning and winter pack in Sept 2020 from a Chausson dealership for £55k

Just saw the identical vehicle (year etc) with similar mileage selling in a dealership for £70k.

I can hardly believe it!

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[Shrimp]

We will stick with our old Hymer!

 

[VXman]

So all the people that have motorhomes worth 2, 3 or even 4 times the price of ours, do you get 2,3 or 4 times the fun out of it do you think ?

No, but some peopl work like that. I gues if you have th money and nothing better to do with it.

I have a friend who changes his perfectly good, low mileage, 'boring, run of the mill car' every 2 or 3 years for no reason I can fathom. Must lose thousands everytime.

 

[Lenny HB]

With such high second hand values at the moment it can actually work out quite a good time to change, it did for us.
Swapping a 4 - 6 year old van for new works well.

First time buyers are really being hit & people with elderly vans who want to trade up to new, I feel sorry for them especially if they have been saving for that new van for a few years.

If we were starting from scratch now not sure we would want to take such a big chunk out of our savings to buy a van, even budget vans are silly money.

We all expect price increases but not at the unprecedented rates over the last year.
Those that keep saying wait a year or two prices will fall. It ain't going to happen. Biggest increase has been the base vehicle price & with all the other increases has pushed van prices up. People are still buying every van that is made and new prices are not going to drop and that means second hand prices won't drop, certainly not by any significant amount.
Probably best to bite the bullet and buy now.

 

[Lenny HB]

I have a friend who changes his perfectly good, low mileage, 'boring, run of the mill car' every 2 or 3 years for no reason I can fathom. Must lose thousands everytime.

We like buying new Motorhomes we could never afford luxuries like this when we were younger so it's nice to have a nice new one but we do use it. We do 8-10 k miles a year and 120 + nights away in it.

The car though was bought new but its over 10 years old, might change it in 5 years time. It only gets used for shopping trips and the amount we have saved on not changing cars helps in a big way to funding the Motorhome.

 

[Southdowners]

So all the people that have motorhomes worth 2, 3 or even 4 times the price of ours, do you get 2,3 or 4 times the fun out of it do you think ?

The type of vehicle you use surely depends on the sort of travelling you do.

We don’t use sites and mainly travel in remote areas in Scandinavia so we need good winterisation, large gas and fuel tanks, large water and waste tanks, large garage and storage, rear wheel drive, etc, etc.

Of course vehicles suitable for this type of travel don’t come cheap and we’re fortunate in that we’re able to afford one. We do get a tremendous amount of fun using ours.

We were told by the dealership the other day that, were we to sell, we’d get what we paid for it.

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