Is this spring from the seat swivel? (1 Viewer)

[WhiteCheyenneMan]

I originally posted this in Technical but have had no response I have found a spring on the floor in front of the driver's seat. I'm 99.9% certain that it is off the FASP seat swivel, but I have absolutely no idea where it goes, apart from, in some way, being connected to the orange lock. I bought it from Jennings Seating, but there's nobody available until Monday. Lots of you must have Fasp seat swivels in their MH? They're supposed to be the best though I would dispute that! Does anyone have a diagram or photo of theirs?

 

[Riverbankannie]

Hi @WhiteCheyenneMan
I thought someone would have replied to this or your other thread before now.
I’ve just got home from grandparent duties and gone out to my van to take a look. I haven’t got my best torch but I’ve had a good look and the only spring that I can see under the seat, on the passenger side at least, is the long one from front to back, painted black and much larger than that in your photo.
I will have another look to tomorrow in better light.
I have the same FASP swivel.

 

[pappajohn]

A compression spring like that would normally fit OVER some kind of link rod to keep it captive.
The lock lever will/should have a spring with a hook at each end.

I'm not 100% certain, but I don't think it's from the seat or swivel.... Maybe not even from the van but brought in accidently.

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[Chris51]

Does seat still work OK?

 

[WhiteCheyenneMan]

Hi @WhiteCheyenneMan
I thought someone would have replied to this or your other thread before now.
I’ve just got home from grandparent duties and gone out to my van to take a look. I haven’t got my best torch but I’ve had a good look and the only spring that I can see under the seat, on the passenger side at least, is the long one from front to back, painted black and much larger than that in your photo.
I will have another look to tomorrow in better light.
I have the same FASP swivel.

Thank you Riverbankannie! If you have a FASP swivel, it might be conclusive! There is a simple wire springy clip around the shaft of the orange lever and the hooked end appears to simply hook over the edge of the top plate. I'm not sure where the other end goes?

A compression spring like that would normally fit OVER some kind of link rod to keep it captive.
The lock lever will/should have a spring with a hook at each end.

I'm not 100% certain, but I don't think it's from the seat or swivel.... Maybe not even from the van but brought in accidently.

Yes the lock lever does have a spring with a hook at one end. The other end is straight wire. You may be right that the spring is not from the seat but if it's alien to the van, how did it get there

Does seat still work OK?

Yes it works in as much as it swivels and locks (with a little force!) but there is no spring action on the lever. That may be the fault of the simple wire spring on the lever itself?

 

[Riverbankannie]

We’ve both been out to look at the drivers seat this time. Although both seats are the same
There is a small spring for the lever operation but it’s not the one you picture. It’s oainted black and only has 2 coils and is much thicker diameter. I’ve tried to photograph it for you.
Nothing anywhere like the one you picture. Our seat takes a bit of effort to get going in the swivel.
Husbands advice is to put it in safe place for the time you think “ah that’s where that spring goes”

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[WhiteCheyenneMan]

Riverbankannie, thank you both for checking that out and for the clear photos

The first thing that's clear is that yours is a different FASP swivel. My orange lever is on a short plate going straight to a hook end which grasps a bar in order to lock in place. I have a very weedy spring compared to your thick one, but I think that that's the one to tension the lever. I think your husband's recommendation for putting the loose spring in a safe place is good advice, as it looks increasingly likely that it doesn't belong to the seat swivel. It has appeared since we had the mobile technician for the habitation service, but that still doesn't explain where it came from

I'm going to have to insert myself between the seats once more and try to find the correct positioning for the weedy spring. I shall put the other spring in my tool bag. Can you make a note of that for me as I'm likely to have forgotten where I put it in six months time I may be gone some time!

 

[Duck Truck]

Have you by any chance been bringing in illegal Zebadee's

 

[WhiteCheyenneMan]

Have you by any chance been bringing in illegal Zebadee's

Ssshh!! That's my pension

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[WhiteCheyenneMan]

Okay, the weedy spring is definitely the one which tensions the orange locking lever. But I'm going to have to take the seat out to fix it as I can neither move my arms enough to grasp the spring with fingers or narrow-nosed pliers, nor can I see clearly from 3mm!! Given that, the loose spring does appear to be alien, at least to the seat swivel.

 

[Cavs]

It has appeared since we had the mobile technician for the habitation service, but that still doesn't explain where it came from

Perhaps your technician has been hunting through his toolbox and van, looking for a spring that he knows he had recently!

 

[WhiteCheyenneMan]

Perhaps your technician has been hunting through his toolbox and van, looking for a spring that he knows he had recently!

If he's the cause of this, serve him right

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[The Wino]

As a fellow ford based motorhome owner have you replaced your door lock and secured your OBD port our friend recently had theirs nicked!!!!

 

[WhiteCheyenneMan]

As a fellow ford based motorhome owner have you replaced your door lock and secured your OBD port our friend recently had theirs nicked!!!!

I have replaced the driver's door lock (no outside lock on the passenger door) with a Garrison lock and I have a Bulldog wheel clamp and a Stoplock Pro for the steering wheel. I am about to get a OBD Port lock and am just awaiting a reply to my query from Garrison Locks

 

[The Wino]

I have replaced the driver's door lock (no outside lock on the passenger door) with a Garrison lock and I have a Bulldog wheel clamp and a Stoplock Pro for the steering wheel. I am about to get a OBD Port lock and am just awaiting a reply to my query from Garrison Locks

We have the obd lock from garisson the instructions are rubbish but easy to see how it goes and a short job. Also have the hykee door lock not so easy to fit instructons rubbish too!!!!. Just looking at clutch claw/wheel lock/post etc as moving house and it will be there not in secure storage. My mate also drilled a hole in the swivelling seat base so he can lock it facing backwards. I think all you need to do is make it easier to pick another one!

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[WhiteCheyenneMan]

We have the obd lock from garisson the instructions are rubbish but easy to see how it goes and a short job. Also have the hykee door lock not so easy to fit instructons rubbish too!!!!. Just looking at clutch claw/wheel lock/post etc as moving house and it will be there not in secure storage. My mate also drilled a hole in the swivelling seat base so he can lock it facing backwards. I think all you need to do is make it easier to pick another one!

Agreed! Er, since you have the Garrison Lock, did it come with all necessary screws/use existing screws? And did you have to drill or cut anything?

I used this Youtube video for the door lock, it's not the best, but quite entertaining when he forgets and drops bits!

 

[TheBig1]

We have the obd lock from garisson the instructions are rubbish but easy to see how it goes and a short job. Also have the hykee door lock not so easy to fit instructons rubbish too!!!!. Just looking at clutch claw/wheel lock/post etc as moving house and it will be there not in secure storage. My mate also drilled a hole in the swivelling seat base so he can lock it facing backwards. I think all you need to do is make it easier to pick another one!

these are excellent too
http://www.garrisonlocks.co.uk/peda...MIyvCbwcyi4AIVg4bVCh2aNg3eEAQYBSABEgKLN_D_BwE

 

[TheBig1]

the stray spring also looks similar to the one inside the hand brake lever

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[Riverbankannie]

the stray spring also looks similar to the one inside the hand brake lever

Interesting, whilst looking under the driver’s seat, I had a thought about it belonging to the handbrake but I’ve got a Ducato so would be different anyway.

 

[WhiteCheyenneMan]

I shall check out the Handbrake when it stops raining!

 

[WhiteCheyenneMan]

these are excellent too
http://www.garrisonlocks.co.uk/peda...MIyvCbwcyi4AIVg4bVCh2aNg3eEAQYBSABEgKLN_D_BwE

Hadn't found this before (there is one for the Trannie) and now I'm wondering whether this might be preferable to the OBD Port lock which will be hidden behind trim?

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[pappajohn]

the stray spring also looks similar to the one inside the hand brake lever

Doubtful you'll find a compression spring that long that isn't held captive by either being in a sleeve/tube or has rod through it.
Either way, it ain't just going to fall out.

 

[PeteH]

That feller Murphy has been at it again?.

 

[namwaldog]

Just a thought....

Couldn't be the spring from the skylight opening mechanism could it. Mine are tension rather than compression but same sort of size & guage as your image
Tried to upload an image of ours but no signal.
Barry

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[GWAYGWAY]

the stray spring also looks similar to the one inside the hand brake lever

Agreed, have you still got the button on the push end of the handbrake lever, they are only plastic and not the strongest of thread material, it would also explain why it was found where you found it.

 

[namwaldog]

@WhiteCheyenneMan
This is the image that made me think of your spring...

 

[WhiteCheyenneMan]

Just a thought....

Couldn't be the spring from the skylight opening mechanism could it. Mine are tension rather than compression but same sort of size & guage as your image
Tried to upload an image of ours but no signal.
Barry

Thanks Barry but no, I don't have any skylights of that type.

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[WhiteCheyenneMan]

the stray spring also looks similar to the one inside the hand brake lever

Doubtful you'll find a compression spring that long that isn't held captive by either being in a sleeve/tube or has rod through it.
Either way, it ain't just going to fall out.

Agreed, have you still got the button on the push end of the handbrake lever, they are only plastic and not the strongest of thread material, it would also explain why it was found where you found it.

Nope, handbrake is intact and working normally........... but thanks!

 

[pappajohn]

@WhiteCheyenneMan
This is the image that made me think of your spring...

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That's a tension spring, I can see the hook end on the left.
If it was a compression spring it would fly out when compressed as it has nothing to hold it in place.