Is the EV motorhome starting to look to be a viable prospect ?

[Two on Tour]

 

[PJGWiltshire]

Its Ok if you only want to do about 100 miles a day and take a week to get to the Spanish boarder then turn around and come straight back home again. Nice two week holiday.

 

[Simon Meadwell]

No

 

[LesW]

If it costs about £65 - £85,000 and has a range approaching 400 miles.. then maybe... and I only managed about 20 seconds of the very annoying 'presenter' and her voice.

 

[A S R]

Absolutely not.

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[Gromett]

The big issue I see is that it is an ICE vehicle converted to BEV. So it has a lot of extra weight that reduces range.
Also they have not done anything for the aerodynamics. Internal Air con and kept the roof height down should have been a priority. do something with the wing mirrors as well.

 

[SheikhLala]

I have a Transit Custom PHEV and its the biggest load of shite, Ford should be embarrassed !! Doesn't do the range, doesn't always charge, doesn't always start, is constantly emailing me about faults with the airbag/seat belt pre-tensioners and has daily issues with the power steering .
If I could change it quickly, it would of gone back 3 weeks after getting it. The technology isn't tested enough and the environmental factors that affect battery charging and performance aren't properly catered for.

 

[Two on Tour]

It's not looking promising then.

 

[Soycd]

Genie is out the bottle, diesel will be gone, get used to it!

 

[glenn2926]

Genie is out the bottle, diesel will be gone, get used to it!

I fear you are correct. We will have to get used to vastly inferior vehicles. Certainly not an advance in motoring.
Shorter range, less payload, longer to recharge. Certainly not progress.
This why they’re having to ban the building of new ICE vehicles in a few years. If electric vehicles were really better we would all want to move over to them without being forced into it.

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[Neil S]

When’s the ban on new ICE vehicles 2030
That’s 8 years away
A lot can happen between now and then

 

[Two on Tour]

I wonder how many club sites along with CL and CS sites are going to install the new transformers to supply the multiple 7.4kW charging points, plus in
time EV motorhomes will be calling time on wild camping and van-lifers.

 

[glenn2926]

When’s the ban on new ICE vehicles 2030
That’s 8 years away
A lot can happen between now and then

It can. However it doesn’t need to happen. The electric vehicle manufacturers don’t have to improve one little bit. There won’t be any competition so we will have no option but to buy inferior products.
To my mind there is no other reason to ban the ICE than to force us into inferior vehicles.

 

[joe and sue]

They have been playing with electric vehicles since before the ICE, and still have not conquered it so WTF are they going to achieve in the next 8 years ?????

 

[Jamesh]

We had our road tarmaced today... There were 10 or so tipper lorries each running there engines and waiting to tip there load into the tarmac spreader thingy...

No sign of EV for them....

I was running though town the other night and a 15yo bus was belching out black smoke....

No sign of EV for them......

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[joe and sue]

We had our road tarmaced today... There were 10 or so tipper lorries each running there engines and waiting to tip there load into the tarmac spreader thingy...

No sign of EV for them....

I was running though town the other night and a 15yo bus was belching out black smoke....

No sign of EV for them......

If EV's are so efficient, why are all the emergency services, councils, delivery companies, post office, supermarket home deliveries etc not all using them.
Also if Solar is so effective and profitable why are all supermarket, warehouse, factory etc roofs not covered in them, (Tesco never miss a money making trick}
No just Joe public conned into making the sacrifices and paying the costs ,
How many MP's in London use EV's, they should be setting the example.

 

[Soycd]

Its realistic that ICE motorhomes (and cars) will still be around in 25 years time (if there is any petrol/diesel left!) Given that its 2030 before the ban on new vehicles, the secondhand market will continue. Non of this is likely to affect anyone on these forums who is 60+. So realistically if I buy a new diesel motorhome in 2030 I could still have it 10-15 years later. In 2045 I'll be 85. There will be massive developments in electric vehicles, there will have to be. The first iphone came out 14 years ago. If 15 years ago someone had said that in 2022 we'd be walking around with a phone in our pockets that has more computing power than our then home computers, the capacity for thousands of high quality photos, thousands of music files, high speed access to the Internet, real time banking, able to book a hotel/campsite, interactive maps, etc, etc. we'd have been sceptical to say the least. I would not buy an electric vehicle at the moment but in 5 years or so I might well seriously consider it.

 

[Two on Tour]

They have been playing with electric vehicles since before the ICE, and still have not conquered it so WTF are they going to achieve in the next 8 years ?????

Some 25 plus years ago we watched the London to Brighton veteran car run from about the halfway point.
There was an American 1902 electric powered car called a Columbia entered on the run which pulled over and stopped for a recharge just across the way from us.
We popped over to have a look around it and have a read of the information sheet that was on the side of the car.
One of the things I remember from that information sheet was that back in 1902 when it was made that nearly 40% of the vehicles on the road in America back then were electric powered.

 

[Soycd]

If EV's are so efficient, why are all the emergency services, councils, delivery companies, post office, supermarket home deliveries etc not all using them.
Also if Solar is so effective and profitable why are all supermarket, warehouse, factory etc roofs not covered in them, (Tesco never miss a money making trick}
No just Joe public conned into making the sacrifices and paying the costs ,
How many MP's in London use EV's, they should be setting the example.

First point: the infrastructure is not there yet. Some of you're examples already do.
Second point: they will probably have looked into it but its not worth the outlay, at the moment.
Third point: What has Joe public been conned into?
Fourth point: I don't know.

 

[Soycd]

They have been playing with electric vehicles since before the ICE, and still have not conquered it so WTF are they going to achieve in the next 8 years ?????

Whats the solution then?

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[dash300]

Genie is out the bottle, diesel will be gone, get used to it!

The Genie popped out of the bottle the many years ago and then realised what it faced was in reality a long hard and slow slog for technology to catch up. Other technology may well superseed it.

 

[Guigsy]

EV cars have come a long way in the past 10 years. And now all the manufacturers are taking it seriously, it should improve pretty rapidly.

Electric delivery vans are now economical in larger towns and cities. They tend to travel at lower speeds, don't carry that much weight (mainly volume), can do dozens of stops for not many miles and EVs have an advantage in stop-start conditions. They cost more up front, but cost very little to run. Charging every night at the depot isn't an issue for them.

But when you want a more general purpose van that can sustain +55mph for a couple of hundred miles and carry a good bit of weight, you end up with massive batteries that cost far too much and eat into the payload and carry volume.

Motorhomes are even worse because they have even worse aerodynamics, weight lots all the time. And unlike delivery vans, we aren't going to spend +£50k on the EV version because because the lower cost to run is pretty irrelevant.

The other issue is, how will we recharge them? Some campsites struggle with 6A hook-ups. How are they going to cope when it's dozens of times that on multiple vehicles?

 

[Guigsy]

Whats the solution then?

The ban in 8 years applies to cars. Not commercial vehicles.

 

[Soycd]

I'd be interested to know how many of us commenting here have driven an electric vehicle? I have and it was brilliant. No noise, amazing acceleration, cheap as chips to run. Of course the downside, cost of the vehicle, charging possibilities and range.

 

[Soycd]

US: Volvo Trucks Receives Record Orders For VNR Electric Trucks

Volvo Trucks announced two large electric truck orders in North America for a total of a three-digit number of Volvo VNR Electric trucks.

insideevs.com

Bit bigger than a motorhome.

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[glenn2926]

I'd be interested to know how many of us commenting here have driven an electric vehicle? I have and it was brilliant. No noise, amazing acceleration, cheap as chips to run. Of course the downside, cost of the vehicle, charging possibilities and range.

I sort of understand that you and others may see these things as brilliant. No noise? Most modern cars are pretty quiet now. Acceleration? I’ll give you great acceleration but not many of us get use the acceleration our current cars have now. Cheap as chips to run? How many years of running will it take to get back the astronomical difference in purchase price?

 

[Soycd]

I sort of understand that you and others may see these things as brilliant. No noise? Most modern cars are pretty quiet now. Acceleration? I’ll give you great acceleration but not many of us get use the acceleration our current cars have now. Cheap as chips to run? How many years of running will it take to get back the astronomical difference in purchase price?

Whats the alternative?

 

[Johnen]

How many MP's in London use EV's, they should be setting the example

Just read that Rishi Sunak uses a 15 year old vw golf to drive in London. So not too bothered bout the LEZ charges or pollution then

 

[glenn2926]

Whats the alternative?

Unfortunately there isn’t one. We will hang onto our ICE vehicles as long as possible but eventually we’ll have to accept much more expensive inferior vehicles. It’s a great shame after the best part of a century of progressively better vehicles but we will have no choice but to take great strides backwards in personal transportation.

 

[Soycd]

Unfortunately there isn’t one. We will hang onto our ICE vehicles as long as possible but eventually we’ll have to accept much more expensive inferior vehicles. It’s a great shame after the best part of a century of progressively better vehicles but we will have no choice but to take great strides backwards in personal transportation.

Good point, but I really think it's more important to at least try to look after the place for those who come after us. We don't know if the cars vans of the future will be inferior, technology is a funny thing. My first PC with 4mb of RAM, no CD drive etc cost £1,800 in 1993. My £350 iPhone SE Has 16,000 times more memory capacity. I use this as an example, prices will come down as the technology develops, and technology will develop.

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