Intelsat 901 on Alden AS4/SSD system.

[DP+JAY]

Can anyone please tell me how/ where I can get my Alden satellite system reprogramed/updated/modified so it can find/receive the signal from Intelsat 901 please?
DP

 

[canopus]

Roadpro Daventry possibly.

 

[DP+JAY]

Thanks but already tried roadpro( after I tried eddievanbitz ) neither of whom were helpful/interested.

 

[RowleyBirkinQC]

I think Badknee may have looked into this & it required the control unit to be returned to Alden for reprogramming?

No idea if Miriad (distributor?) would/could confirm the position to a non-trade customer?

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[RowleyBirkinQC]

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[eddie]

Thanks but already tried roadpro( after I tried eddievanbitz ) neither of whom were helpful/interested.

Because it can’t be done and it’s illegal

Why isn’t it helpful to say, no?

 

[DP+JAY]

Because it can’t be done and it’s illegal

Why isn’t it helpful to say, no?

The person who answered the phone (sounded south African) didn't say that, just "we don't do them anymore".
DP

 

[eddie]

The person who answered the phone (sounded south African) didn't say that, just "we don't do them anymore".
DP

With respects, we don’t so I’m not sure what else you would expect someone to say?

People don’t like being told that it’s illegal, would only ever work on a unit that was a twin LNB Originally, needs a complete strip down to install the replacement LNB and if all those ducks were inline, like us Alden won’t aide and abet, and they’re the ones who would have to reprogram the control box

Much easier to say, sorry we don’t do satellite anymore

Spend the money on data

 

[Badknee]

Can anyone please tell me how/ where I can get my Alden satellite system reprogramed/updated/modified so it can find/receive the signal from Intelsat 901 please?
DP

I think Badknee may have looked into this & it required the control unit to be returned to Alden for reprogramming?

No idea if Miriad (distributor?) would/could confirm the position to a non-trade customer?

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Yes, quite correct Daren RowleyBirkinQC we did enquire about increasing/ changing the channels received and was told we would need to parcel it up and post it to Alden France. However we do get U.K. tv while on our winter trips on 901using a separate dish and an Icecript box.

 

[emjaiuk]

Rather than waste time speaking to those who seem to prefer spreading horror stories about Intelsat 901/907, speak to Jackson’s Satellite, who seem to listen to what customers want rather than tell them what they should have.

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[eddie]

Rather than waste time speaking to those who seem to prefer spreading horror stories about Intelsat 901/907, speak to Jackson’s Satellite, who seem to listen to what customers want rather than tell them what they should have.

Well the truth is the truth. Ask Robert to put in writing that it is 100% legal and isn’t due to be switched off anytime soon

We stay clear to avoid the whinging posts ‘It’s not fair’ ‘No one told me’ and classics like ‘The dealer should have told me’

So loads of posts about traders being dishonest about what they sell, and now the inconvenient truth is broached it’s ‘find another trader’

I bet you have a phone full of weather App’s as well so you can get the answer you want!

The service on 907 is encrypted using BISS codes, if you don't have permission to decode BISS it’s called satellite piracy

Out of interest, what single scrap of evidence do you have to mark disparaging remarks about my business?

 

[eddie]

The person who answered the phone (sounded south African) didn't say that, just "we don't do them anymore".
DP

Rather than waste time speaking to those who seem to prefer spreading horror stories about Intelsat 901/907, speak to Jackson’s Satellite, who seem to listen to what customers want rather than tell them what they should have.

Perhaps you can see why it’s easier for us to say ‘sorry we don’t do it anymore’

 

[emjaiuk]

Do you not think that posts suggesting that motorhomes will be seized whilst the owner is watching BBC1 in Southern Spain constitute horror stories. As you say all it takes is for your company to you do not get involved with Intelsat. If the powers that be truly didn’t want UK TV licence holders accessing the system, it would be relatively simple to prevent them.

 

[Vansflyer]

No idea on getting the Alden reprogrammed for 901 but the manufacturers are the ones to ask for sure. Teleco, Oyster and Maxview unit's can all be set up for 901 with either a return to base or a file emailed to you and then uploaded.
The legality of receiving BBC etc from Intelsat has been discussed many times and despite some people shouting VERY LOUDLY it is illegal.... it isn't as long as you pay your TV license.
Exactly the same as using Iplayer etc through a streaming service in Europe, you are just watching what you are legally entitled to through a different medium.
Ignore the bullies and good luck getting it sorted out, btw you will need an 80cm+ dish for reliable reception.

 

[eddie]

No idea on getting the Alden reprogrammed for 901 but the manufacturers are the ones to ask for sure. Teleco, Oyster and Maxview unit's can all be set up for 901 with either a return to base or a file emailed to you and then uploaded.
The legality of receiving BBC etc from Intelsat has been discussed many times and despite some people shouting VERY LOUDLY it is illegal.... it isn't as long as you pay your TV license.
Exactly the same as using Iplayer etc through a streaming service in Europe, you are just watching what you are legally entitled to through a different medium.
Ignore the bullies and good luck getting it sorted out, btw you will need an 80cm+ dish for reliable reception.

It is illegal to ‘hack’ an encrypted service. Paying your licence has nothing to do with it.

I will of course apologise immediately should you post a link proving me wrong, or of course, you could put you money where you mouth is and we’ll both submit our positions with names and address to FACT

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Don‘t shoot the messenger here, I‘d probably use it, but it’s wrong for businesses to sell equipment without telling their customer the truth.

Or am I wrong and we prefer dishonest traders?

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[Vansflyer]

You have used that "Fact argument" before and it not relevant to this matter. The is not piracy or hacking, it is watching something you are legally entitled to.
I am old enough to remember Intelsat @ 27.5W (can't remember the number of the bird) transmitting a Country music channel to a cable head end over here. Were we all "illegal watchers" then as well? And crikey I was scared of the rossers knocking the door down when many years ago I would tune into "Tutti Frutti" (https://www.themoviedb.org/tv/16071-tutti-frutti) being broadcast on RTL on a Saturday night.
There are legitimate reasons why you (well not you but others) would want to align a dish to 27.5W, no manufacturer is selling you illegal equipment, or the trader on their behalf. Just the same as some dish systems are programmed to align to Telecom & Astra 1 for the French & German TV, nothing illegal about them either.
Bothering FACT about this matter is a rather pointless waste of time and energy, do you really believe the BBC etc would not have encrypted this service if it was an issue?
War in Europe, people in Poverty and you would rather have a go at people wanting to watch a bit of home Tv whilst living "the dream" in their van... Hmmmmmm

 

[Ditcha]

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Would think these are more interested in people making a profit from reselling not Joe public watching a bit, TV in Spain plus I don't think they would have any jurisdiction abroad.

 

[Badknee]

btw you will need an 80cm+ dish for reliable reception.

And the lnb needs to be ‘skewed’ so that the bottom of it is at about seven o’clock. The BISS codes haven’t been changed in the last five years that we have been watching 901.

 

[eddie]

You have used that "Fact argument" before and it not relevant to this matter. The is not piracy or hacking, it is watching something you are legally entitled to.

Why do you think that your legally entitled to watch BBC abroad?

The BBC don't even allow you to watch BBC or iPlayer in your motorhome or caravan if someone is at your main residence

You'll need to buy a TV Licence for your static caravan, mobile home or moveable chalet if: anyone, at the same time, is watching or recording live TV on any channel or watching or downloading BBC programmes on BBC iPlayer at your main licensed address

Here is the BBC link:- https://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/faqs/FAQ30#:~:text=You'll need to buy,home is your main residence

There are legitimate reasons why you (well not you but others) would want to align a dish to 27.5W, no manufacturer is selling you illegal equipment, or the trader on their behalf. Just the same as some dish systems are programmed to align to Telecom & Astra 1 for the French & German TV, nothing illegal about them either.

Correct as they are on Free To Air (FTA) and available to all Anything that needs to be "hacked" is illegal as you do not have the legal right to view content that is encrypted

Bothering FACT about this matter is a rather pointless waste of time and energy, do you really believe the BBC etc would not have encrypted this service if it was an issue?

Why did they encrypt it then?

War in Europe, people in Poverty and you would rather have a go at people wanting to watch a bit of home Tv whilst living "the dream" in their van... Hmmmmmm

Ah well this is where the problem is, ill-informed people jumping on a bandwagon. I was tagged for an opinion and my Company and the OP suggested that we weren't helpful and not interested.

As for having a go at people "living the dream in their van Hmmmmmm" and likening it to War in Europe? Really? If Mrs Living the Dream can't watch Eastenders and Mr Living the dream can't leer over "Naked Attraction" is that such an issue?

Can anyone please tell me how/ where I can get my Alden satellite system reprogramed/updated/modified so it can find/receive the signal from Intelsat 901 please?
DP

Thanks but already tried roadpro( after I tried eddievanbitz ) neither of whom were helpful/interested.

The person who answered the phone (sounded south African) didn't say that, just "we don't do them anymore".
DP

So, We tell people we don't do it and then I'm tagged into a post saying that we are unhelpful, and not interested. I then I explain "why" and I am a "bully"

If your so desperate to watch EastEnders in Spain that you become angry when someone calmly points out whilst they may do it themselves it is illegal simply shoot me down in flames and post one single accreditable link proving me wrong

I liken it to if a customer phoned up and asked if they should disconnect the engine battery before charging with a mains charger I would say "Yes" If they asked me "Would "you" bother disconnecting an engine battery before charging it from a mains charger?" I would say "Nope"

 

[eddie]

And the lnb needs to be ‘skewed’ so that the bottom of it is at about seven o’clock. The BISS codes haven’t been changed in the last five years that we have been watching 901.

Ideally an autoskew system would be used as one is West of South and the Astra Satellites are "East" of South

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[Badknee]

Ideally an autoskew system would be used as one is West of South and the Astra Satellites are "East" of South

Yes but we use a one metre dish that is permanently attached to an outbuilding and just take an lnb with us when we go out there but I take your point.

 

[DP+JAY]

Rather than waste time speaking to those who seem to prefer spreading horror stories about Intelsat 901/907, speak to Jackson’s Satellite, who seem to listen to what customers want rather than tell them what they should have.

Spoke the them, very nice chap but can't do Alden's. Thanks anyway.

 

[eddie]

Spoke the them, very nice chap but can't do Alden's. Thanks anyway.

Wasn't this where we came in

 

[DP+JAY]

Wasn't this where we came in

No it's not

 

[eddie]

No it's not

Ah so you ‘can’ do it?

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[Swifter]

Why is it illegal?

 

[eddie]

Why is it illegal?

You can’t just ‘hack’ into an encrypted satellite service

The rules don’t care that ‘Mrs Outraged’ can’t watch ‘The Midwife’ when she’s in Spain like she does at home

As I’ve said, I’d probably do it, but, as a trader I think it’s important that the awkward truth is known

Probably explains our exemplary reviews across all platforms?

 

[emjaiuk]

I’m bored with this now, so this is my last post, so please don’t tempt me. Just two points,
1. In my own personal experience, every dealer/trader/technical expert has I’ve discussed this with has not attempted to minimize the hoops needed to jump through, and the fact that there are no guarantees it will continue in its present form. No doubt Eddie being more directly involved in the business and thus having met more people may have encountered a different response.

2. Everybody is entitled to their own views and opinions, I just think that life would be more pleasant if they refrained however from trying to ram those opinions down other peoples throats.

 

[eddie]

I’m bored with this now, so this is my last post, so please don’t tempt me. Just two points,
1. In my own personal experience, every dealer/trader/technical expert has I’ve discussed this with has not attempted to minimize the hoops needed to jump through, and the fact that there are no guarantees it will continue in its present form. No doubt Eddie being more directly involved in the business and thus having met more people may have encountered a different response.

2. Everybody is entitled to their own views and opinions, I just think that life would be more pleasant if they refrained however from trying to ram those opinions down other peoples throats.

To be fair I was tagged in and castigated for being not interested or helpful, because we said we don’t do it.

I remain hopeful that someone can post a link proving I’m wrong

 

[Ditcha]

You can’t just ‘hack’ into an encrypted satellite service

The rules don’t care that ‘Mrs Outraged’ can’t watch ‘The Midwife’ when she’s in Spain like she does at home

As I’ve said, I’d probably do it, but, as a trader I think it’s important that the awkward truth is known

Probably explains our exemplary reviews across all platforms?

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