Increase payload paper process
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pappajohn
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Paper process only means it doesn't need suspension, wheel and tyre upgrades.
You still need the services of someone like SVTec to do the paperwork.
DVLA approve of such as this company but you can, if you have a lot of time and patience for returning incorrect documents over and over, do it yourself
You still need the services of someone like SVTec to do the paperwork.
DVLA approve of such as this company but you can, if you have a lot of time and patience for returning incorrect documents over and over, do it yourself
treetops1
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SVTEC is the way to go,and save the grief if you make a mistake .The DVLA seem to do a quicker turnround with SVTEC as they are used to working with them.Enjoy lol.
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I will get svtech to do it - not blessed with patience.
Sundowners
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I presume you are uprating from 3.5t ??? If so, do you have the correct licence?? Your road tax should be reduced I believe??
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If it's just a paper excercise, then you probably won't gain much in overall payload. The permissible axle weights will remain the same. All it allows you to do, is shift the load around to optimise the loads on each axle.
Most MH's are naturally rear heavy and shifting stuff forwards can be physically impossible or very difficult.
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Another strong recommendation to use SVTech I tried to do it myself it’s a nightmare trying to work with the DVLA and had new V5 sent to me still at lower playing. Phoned them after being shunted through several departments was informed none of my original documentation was to be found and to resubmit all paperwork again.
I must have been lucky then. Did it myself, sent off the form with accompanying letter from manufacturer saying it could be uprated to x and was surprised how quickly got the V5 back (with part refund of road tax). I'm not blessed with much patience so it couldn't have been difficult. Used the saving to buy something else for the MH
That is the key!! most people do not have that proof which is how the likes of Svtec make some of their money.
i did the process myself but had to get an "appropriate letter" so got that from a recognised ( by DVLA ) auto Engineers.
ShaKen
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AJM2 - Did you ask the manufacturer specifically for the letter you are referring to or was it another / standard supplied document? ie. what did the doc from the manufacturer say / cover?
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Kingham
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My ‘not much’ gave me an extra 1000kg overall payload and 200kg on the rear axle. I was happy with that.
pappajohn
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That's about the only thing they're good at, losing mail.
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What they do not make clear when submitting Paperwork for up plating is that a cheque for 6 or 12 months ved at the new weight ie PHG must be included with the paperwork being submitted if not the application does not go ahead and a replacement V5 at the old rate is sent back to you (this is the mistake I made) Seemingly they are not obliged to notify you of this when submitting as happened to me and I suspect the submission is recorded electronically and all paperwork is shredded hence no paper trail when I queried it. If the OP wants to go this route on his own pm me and I will provide instructions.
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I’m only after a few hundred kilos and TBH that’s only required when we have the dogs aboard . Mind u when I do eventually semi retire and do the long haul around Europe it’ll be handy
Yes, I emailed the manufacturer with model, chassis number etc (all info I could think of to identify it for their records) and they wrote back very promptly confirming that that vehicle could be upgraded to xkg without the need for modification. All manufacturers must be used to providing the info and the letter they sent was accepted without question by the DVLA
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That’s not the case at all.
We increased our GVW by 300Kg all gained by an uprate of 2 x 150Kg on the rear axles.
Ian
it very much depends on the chassis weights already applied by the converter. example
front 1500kg Max 1850kgs
rear 2000kgs max 2000kgs
so you could paperwork upgrade to 3850kgs but the rear axle max would remain the same so any additional weight is over the front axle.
if the converter has down plated the rear axle also then you will have an increase over the rear.
Hi i am just new to the site and was wondering what the pros & cons are for increasing the payload. I have a fiat carrioca which if I am by myself weight is not an issue however I have just started to carry a very heavy ebike which may affect the weight of the van.
hi Andycap it depends which Carrioca you have a long while back our first motorhome was a Carrioca 656 it had a heavy chassis which allowed upto 4500kgs as standard.
have you looked at your weight plates under the bonnet, and your VED weight in your V5?
have you looked at your weight plates under the bonnet, and your VED weight in your V5?
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Agreed. I was pointing out that Wagoneer ’s statement suggested that uprating was only about moving weights between axles and that an increase in GVW was not possible was not factually accurate (and therefore misleading).
Ian
hi Phil D its a carioca 705 and looking at the v5 it says the revenue weight is 3500.
ok so you need to look at the weight plates under the bonnet to see how far you can go without suspension and / or tyre / wheel size cahnges.
my guess is its a FIAT chassis so is likely to be on 15" wheels and as mentioned earlier, 2000kgs rear and 1850kgs front.
if that is the case then any increase is only over the front axle. and you probably want your ebike on a rack at the back.
PS . i assume your license allows over 3.5T
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probably doesnt apply to many on here but if your close to any low emission zones the criteria are stricter when you go over the 3.5tonne level
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Malcolm Bolt
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I got an extra 440kg on my old Hymer.
SteveJulesMontycame2
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I’d get to a weighbridge with everything you want to carry first to see how you stand (assuming you’re plated at 3500kg). It’s all well and good looking at the chassis plate, but it’s what you actually weigh on each axle that matters and will tell you how much, if any, you need to up plate by!
Not true if on the maxi chassis as mine is it was plated at 3500kg, now on 4500kg Axle weights 2100kg and 2400kg could increase rear to 2600kg with change of tyres and then just a paper exercise.
Previous payload approx 500kg now 1500kg
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Are you sure about that? VED for PHG motorhome is LESS than for PLG. When you uprate from below 3.5t to above 3.5t you do not pay anymore, they are supposed to give you a refund of VED.
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Don't think that is correct as you have already paid more than the new VED. Didn't send a cheque with mine, they just refunded the difference but it did take them 4 months.
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