Icecrypt for Intelsat 907. (1 Viewer)

[eddie]

Agree totally with the above.

My stance on it is that i have paid my TV License and so I do not feel the least bit guilty about receiving signals from Intelsat.

What has paying your TV licence got to do with illegally downloading encrypted satellite signals?

Scaremongering when the chances of getting caught doing this in a motorhome that is stationary in one place for a relatively short period of time is probably zero is a bit silly. What direction my dish is pointing at is my business and try and come over the threshold of my motorhome uninvited and you will have to deal with SWMBO!

Scaremongering? Silly? No as a major supplier and installer of satellite TV equipment to the UK motorhome market I am balancing the advice given by traders, some with little or nothing tangible to loose. The myth being propagated is that you can buy equipment and watch English TV in Spain and it is not a problem

It is not silly advising people on a major motorhome information portal that it is illegal.

If you find the truth annoying there is nothing I can about that. Many people decide that not paying a TV licence is worth the risk, however, if you do get caught you will be punished, which is why the majority of us would rather pay. Just because my car can go much faster than 70 MPH doesn't mean that I have a "moral right" to what the hell I like just because I have paid my excise duty!

If I am in the UK and I cannot receive Terrestial TV and my Satellite Dish line of sight to ASTRA is blocked by trees/flags/buildings etc guess what I will be trying next.

Dunno? Read a book? go for a bike ride, go for a run

 

[Ninjabob]

As a dealer in satellite equipment I appreciate your situation.

Your comments were going to give me sleepless nights - I cannot bear the shame of the Intelsat Police knocking on my habitation door so
I have gone straight outside and crushed my Icecrypt receiver by driving over it with my Motorhome.

Thats £68 you owe me

 

[emjaiuk]

What has paying your TV licence got to do with illegally downloading encrypted satellite signals?

Scaremongering? Silly? No as a major supplier and installer of satellite TV equipment to the UK motorhome market I am balancing the advice given by traders, some with little or nothing tangible to loose. The myth being propagated is that you can buy equipment and watch English TV in Spain and it is not a problem

It is not silly advising people on a major motorhome information portal that it is illegal.

If you find the truth annoying there is nothing I can about that. Many people decide that not paying a TV licence is worth the risk, however, if you do get caught you will be punished, which is why the majority of us would rather pay. Just because my car can go much faster than 70 MPH doesn't mean that I have a "moral right" to what the hell I like just because I have paid my excise duty!

Dunno? Read a book? go for a bike ride, go for a run

There's a world of difference between pointing out the legal position of using or attempting to use Intelsat 907 to receive UK signals, and pure and utter scaremongering by suggesting there is a likelihood of a MH being seized. My own personal view is that in the very, very unlikely circumstances of some authority objecting directly, a UK TV licence holder would have at the very least a strong mitigating defence in that they were merely viewing content that would be freely available to them if they were in the UK. There would be no intention to defraud or obtain monetary advantage.

You are of course fully entitled to your own opinion, but it seems to me that your comments on this and other posts on this subject come over as sour grapes that some suppliers gain business by offering customers what they want/need. My own supplier of an Oyster autoskew/ Avtex, and Icecrypt made it quite clear to me the legal position, and also the fact that there would be no guarantee as to the length of time it would be possible to use the system. It was my own choice to proceed.


Malcolm

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[eddie]

There's a world of difference between pointing out the legal position of using or attempting to use Intelsat 907 to receive UK signals, and pure and utter scaremongering by suggesting there is a likelihood of a MH being seized. My own personal view is that in the very, very unlikely circumstances of some authority objecting directly, a UK TV licence holder would have at the very least a strong mitigating defence in that they were merely viewing content that would be freely available to them if they were in the UK. There would be no intention to defraud or obtain monetary advantage.

You are of course fully entitled to your own opinion, but it seems to me that your comments on this and other posts on this subject come over as sour grapes that some suppliers gain business by offering customers what they want/need. My own supplier of an Oyster autoskew/ Avtex, and Icecrypt made it quite clear to me the legal position, and also the fact that there would be no guarantee as to the length of time it would be possible to use the system. It was my own choice to proceed.


Malcolm

If your happy to break the law fine. It is your moral choice. It is called "Signal theft" Theft being the operative word.

Paying a the BBC licence fee has got diddly squat to illegally downloading encrypted material you have absolutely no right to do.

As for freely available, the BBC will not even let you watch BBC iPlayer abroad so hardly "freely available"

As for sour grapes? laughable! All I keep pointing out is that downloading encrypted signals is illegal, how ever you want to justify it, presumably to protect your own moral compass.

I wonder how much money I am loosing at shows, not flogging boxes at £60 a pop Come to think of it it may help if we actually took ANY boxes to flog at shows Maplins is the best place to get one, next day delivery and a decent warranty.

I wonder what other laws people are prepared to ignore so long as they can get what they desperately need?

In this case the need/obsession/desire (I don't know which) to have British TV when on holiday

As I said in a previous post, I do understand "why" people want to do it, just so long as people understand that they "shouldn't"

 

[Ninjabob]

I wonder what other laws people are prepared to ignore so long as they can get what they desperately need?

Overnighting on the Queen's highway is pretty popular

 

[eddie]

Overnighting on the Queen's highway is pretty popular

I've just recieved a speeding notice today, so we all know mine

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[Ninjabob]

I've just recieved a speeding notice today, so we all know mine

Now your entering into the spirit of the thing Eddie.

I have got one of those illegal 'A' Frame things too - I see myself like some kind of Highwayman of olden times.

Just think using an 'A' Frame and watching Intelsat in Spain - they'd throw the key away

Perhaps we need a combined 'A' Frame, Hydraulic Levellers, Payload and Intelsat thread - that would stir up some trouble

 

[eddie]

Now your entering into the spirit of the thing Eddie.

I have got one of those illegal 'A' Frame things too - I see myself like some kind of Highwayman of olden times.

Just think using an 'A' Frame and watching Intelsat in Spain - they'd throw the key away

Perhaps we need a combined 'A' Frame, Hydraulic Levellers, Payload and Intelsat thread - that would stir up some trouble

What about gassing?

Anyway, what I say I do and what I "do" are not always the same thing

 

[bigtree]

It arrived this afternoon and have already scanned Astra 2, seems I can't drive my motorised dish with it so can't do 907 until I get it in the van.I have a motorised dish on the house so will do all the others that it will turn to with my other box,it just doesnt recognise 907.

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[seanoo]

It arrived this afternoon and have already scanned Astra 2, seems I can't drive my motorised dish with it so can't do 907 until I get it in the van.I have a motorised dish on the house so will do all the others that it will turn to with my other box,it just doesnt recognise 907.

Hi , did you get a standard icecrypt 1600 chd or has it had the software flashed for Intelsat? A standard box won't work

 

[bigtree]

Hi , did you get a standard icecrypt 1600 chd or has it had the software flashed for Intelsat? A standard box won't work

I bought the s1700 after talking to them and they flashed it for me.

 

[gwyntaxi]

I bought the s1700 after talking to them and they flashed it for me.

Who "flashed" it for you after talking to them,??? I have just bought an Icecrypt 1600chdse and would like to know how to put the required settings in to receive bbc ,itv etc, in Spain/Portugal. I have the 85cm oyster with auto skew so my equipment should be up to it, I did have a previous Icecrypt box but after a few months of non-use it has given up the ghost. Can any one advise on how to do this please?? TIA.

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[bigtree]

Who "flashed" it for you after talking to them,??? I have just bought an Icecrypt 1600chdse and would like to know how to put the required settings in to receive bbc ,itv etc, in Spain/Portugal. I have the 85cm oyster with auto skew so my equipment should be up to it, I did have a previous Icecrypt box but after a few months of non-use it has given up the ghost. Can any one advise on how to do this please?? TIA.

Turbosat but they now seem to be out of business.

 

[OldAgeTravellers]

If you search on SatPimps @bigtree you will find it on there. Make sure that you use the SE version as they are different.
Steve