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Very plastic inside and no garage outside
Who needs a garage when you have SPACE !! Oh and an out side TV sound system and wet bar! I mean come on!Very plastic inside and no garage outside
Your disliked feature is my must have, we are all different. The only option on an RV like that would be to mount a platform on the tow hitch to carry my mobility scooter. Then I can't tow the small car behind. Not all of us are blessed with the ability to walk or cycle to explore an area or collect provisionsIMO the "Garage" is the absolute worst feature of modern motorhomes. Designed originally to house light items like a couple of pushbikes, but now vans under 4¼ tons tend to rely on the garage for all their storage. That is an inefficient use of space, it's poor storage as everything ends up in a heap and it's almost always too far behind the rear axle. For me, No garage = bonus
We have plenty of storage space and could rig an outside TV if I wanted one but no thanks, but I would not entertain a van without a garage where do you carry your bikes and/or scooter?Who needs a garage when you have SPACE !! Oh and an out side TV sound system and wet bar! I mean come on!
I am biased I have the 2018 Windsport and I love it
Mind you I have always favoured RV's over European or UK built vans
We have plenty of storage space and could rig an outside TV if I wanted one but no thanks, but I would not entertain a van without a garage where do you carry your bikes and/or scooter?
I don't see how it is that inefficient Jim as RV's without a garage just seem to have a lower bed so we have a bed and a garage in the same space, piles of junk are not allowed in my garage though and being 2600kg on the front axle a bit of weight behind the rear axle is a good thing in my book.
Good job we are all different though
tried getting our two electric bikes in an overhead locker but failed - ditto the BBQ, the outside table and chairs.They are a great idea for vans of your size. But not on all the 3.5 ton vans where they have become so fashionable.
As for tidy garages. Well some have them. The vast majority I see start off ok till the little shelves and the floor is full, then everything is junked on top. far better for organisation to have a number of smaller lockers, rather than the big dustbin. 2.5 to 3m from the rear axle.
I agree about those who just shove everything in and pretend it doesn't matter that it's a mess, I couldn't live with it like that which is why I always organise my storage properly and ensure stuff is put away where it should be and whoa-betide 'anyone' (he who shall remain unnamed!) who just dumps anything back wherever he pleases! As we wanted a fixed rear bed it makes sense to use the area underneath it as much as possible, if it was a lower bed with more roof lockers it wouldn't work.They are a great idea for vans of your size. But not on all the 3.5 ton vans where they have become so fashionable.
As for tidy garages. Well some have them. The vast majority I see start off ok till the little shelves and the floor is full, then everything is junked on top. far better for organisation to have a number of smaller lockers, rather than the big dustbin. 2.5 to 3m from the rear axle.
It will be of great interest, AS I was at Hymer in 2019, They were, to say the least pissed that they are owned by the Americans.
Make no mistake Hymer was saved here,The smart money is allowing a company to sell to its market, which Thor do very well.
Wow Controversial or what Jim!IMO the "Garage" is the absolute worst feature of modern motorhomes. Designed originally to house light items like a couple of pushbikes, but now vans under 4¼ tons tend to rely on the garage for all their storage. That is an inefficient use of space, it's poor storage as everything ends up in a heap and it's almost always too far behind the rear axle. For me, No garage = bonus
Wow Controversial or what Jim!
One of my must have’s was a large garage as my bike wouldn’t get through the hab door, might look a bit cluttered but I don’t mind.Not really, I've had 30 great years of motorhoming without a garage. For me, different external lockers, such as beer, shoe, BBQ etc have been far more useful than one big hole at the back of the van. That said, I agree, If you have the payload and spare capacity on the rear axle then of course they can be useful for some who want to store expensive bikes or scoots.
My beef with garages are the vans with zero useful storage between the axles and you are supposed to carry everything in the garage.
Remember the guy here a year or so ago. He had a garage quoted to be able to hold 250kg. He put 160kg in his garage and found out his rear axle was overloaded by 100kg! So every kilo over 60, over loaded his rear axle by a little more than a kilo. the garage looked great but so does a chocolate fireguard, until you light the fire.
One of my must have’s was a large garage as my bike wouldn’t get through the hab door, might look a bit cluttered but I don’t mind.
Some cheeky git parked in my parking bay a few days ago....but someone parking a motorbike in your motorhome garage is taking things bit far....if I were you I would lock it in future and come to think about it...drive off...that will teach the cheeky begger a lesson...One of my must have’s was a large garage as my bike wouldn’t get through the hab door, might look a bit cluttered but I don’t mind. View attachment 483270View attachment 483271View attachment 483272View attachment 483273