How to connect gas bbq?

[mb567]

I've bought a Crusader Table Top Gas BBQ which doesn't come with hose, regulator or gas cylinder, so I'm trying to figure out what to buy...

The box says it runs off either a G550 Propane Regulator or G540 Butane Regulator. One option is buying the Butane Regulator together with a CampingGaz cylinder and hose.

But would it instead be possible to turn off all the gas valves inside, turn off the gas cylinder, then unscrew the hose clip for the main Calor 6kg propane cylinder and take that hose, regulator and cylinder out of the locker to use on the bbq?

 

[pappajohn]

You need to tap into the vans copper gas pipe inside the van with a proper Tee piece and fit a dedicated BBQ outlet.
Easy if you know what you're doing.... If in doubt get someone to do it for you.
Don't guess at gas work.

 

[Gellyneck]

I wouldn't be disconnecting the hose from the van.
Easiest way is just get a regulator the same as on the cylinder and rubber gas hose. Connect these to the cylinder and BBQ.
However, this will mean no gas in the van when using the BBQ.
Other option is to install a dedicated external gas point.

 

[Carolyn and Kev]

You need one of these coupled up to your copper pipework as Pappajohn has mentioned.

Far better an idea. The red knob is attached to the gas hose on your BBQ and then pushes into the Buillfinch coupler and twist and its on! Get a gas man to put you one in

Kev

 

[lorger]

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[M-J]

Without fitting a dedicated bbq point the easiest/cheapest way would be another regulator and bit of pipe. Will cost about £12 and then use that bottle or the spare if you carry 2.

 

[mb567]

Thanks for the advice all. I'll be buying another regulator and hose for use with the bbq.

Can I ask another question - in my gas research I noticed references to "new" bulkhead-mounted gas systems and "old" gas systems. It seems I have an old gas system, as the regulator is connected to the cylinder rather than mounted on the bulkhead.

Apparently old gas systems involve a flexible rubber low pressure hose connecting the regulator to the motorhome - but in the picture in my original post above, the wording on the hose says it is high pressure.

Is this anything to worry about using a high pressure hose for a cylinder-connected regulator? I've only just bought this motorhome and tested the gas systems last week (stove, water heater, oven) and all worked fine!

I googled it and this link somewhat worryingly said:

High-pressure regulators have a much narrower nozzle than that fitted to low-pressure regulators and use a much narrower hose (see picture below).

DO NOT TRY TO FORCE A HIGH-PRESSURE HOSE ONTO A LOW-PRESSURE NOZZLE: YOU WILL SNAP THE BRAIDING INSIDE THE HOSE AND THE HOSE MAY SUBSEQUENTLY CRACK AND LEAK, RESULTING IN A POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS SITUATION. ALWAYS MATCH THE HOSE SIZE TO THE NOZZLE SIZE AND ONLY USE HOSE DESIGNED FOR LPG AND TO THE CORRECT STANDARD.

 

[peterc10]

Thanks for the advice all. I'll be buying another regulator and hose for use with the bbq.

Can I ask another question - in my gas research I noticed references to "new" bulkhead-mounted gas systems and "old" gas systems. It seems I have an old gas system, as the regulator is connected to the cylinder rather than mounted on the bulkhead.

Apparently old gas systems involve a flexible rubber low pressure hose connecting the regulator to the motorhome - but in the picture in my original post above, the wording on the hose says it is high pressure.

Is this anything to worry about using a high pressure hose for a cylinder-connected regulator? I've only just bought this motorhome and tested the gas systems last week (stove, water heater, oven) and all worked fine!

I googled it and this link somewhat worryingly said:

Take a photo or more of the whole system you have in your gas locker. Also tell us how old your motorhome is and what make it is. The "new" system has been around for a long time now. ,

 

[mb567]

Take a photo or more of the whole system you have in your gas locker. Also tell us how old your motorhome is and what make it is. The "new" system has been around for a long time now. ,

It is a 2001 Herald Squire. Here is a picture of the regulator attached to the cylinder - 37mbar.

 

[peterc10]

It is a 2001 Herald Squire. Here is a picture of the regulator attached to the cylinder - 37mbar.


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In that case you have the "old" system and you swap the regulator between bottles when the gas runs out. Somebody has used high pressure hose for the low pressure feed after the regulator, probably because that is all they had at the time. It will not cause you any problems, but you should never use low pressure hose on a high pressure line.

The "new" system uses specially made high pressure lines between the bottles and the regulator commonly called "pig tails". It makes changing over bottles simpler.

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[Robster100]

Without fitting a dedicated bbq point the easiest/cheapest way would be another regulator and bit of pipe. Will cost about £12 and then use that bottle or the spare if you carry 2.

This the route I went on new to me Motorhome.

my old caravan had an external socket Motorhome does not, I have two gas bottles so second one has a 2M hose attached specifically for my bbq

 

[mb567]

In that case you have the "old" system and you swap the regulator between bottles when the gas runs out. Somebody has used high pressure hose for the low pressure feed after the regulator, probably because that is all they had at the time. It will not cause you any problems, but you should never use low pressure hose on a high pressure line.

The "new" system uses specially made high pressure lines between the bottles and the regulator commonly called "pig tails". It makes changing over bottles simpler.

Thanks - that's reassuring.