How many do not carry a jack in their MH? (1 Viewer)

[Tootles]

Thats ok in Skegness,,BUSBY

It suits me not to carry one. We dont venture into foreign climes these days, and have a first rate breakdown and recovery service. Not only that, I dont think I am now physically capable jacking up the truck these days, and certainly not able to jostle with the spare wheel, (which we always carry).

 

[KeithChesterfield]

Perhaps my post was a bit far fetched but you probably got my drift.

A few years ago when we hired Motorhomes we were in France - at St Jean des Monts – do you remember the old Aire? - when an English guy asked me if I'd noticed my front tyre was looking a bit low.

And it was almost flat with a slow puncture.

Luckily the hired MH had a 'proper' spare wheel, a jack and wheel brace and he helped me change the wheel.

It took us about ten minutes from start to finish.

The tyre had a nail in it and I took the tyre to a local garage, they repaired the tyre in a few minutes, charged me €10 and I was on my way.

Without a spare wheel and jack we would have been stuck there.

If you like stopping where the puncture or tyre failure occurs then that's up to you but I'd prefer to be able to get on with my holiday as soon as possible and having the ways and means to do so is what I prefer.



Billy23 – I'm only a whipper-snapper compared to your 76 but being born in 1941 still makes me an old fart as well.

 

[Billy23]

Billy23 – I'm only a whipper-snapper compared to your 76 but being born in 1941 still makes me an old fart as well.


@KeithChesterfield

See, I knew it.... a bloody youngster

And the bloke told you that your tyre was going flat AND helped you change it! And what year was that as it couldn't have been recently as to get someone to help these day's would be like looking for hens teeth. Oh and don't let them offer to help you if you are near Barcelona

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[EX51SSS]

you not lived until you have changed a truck tyre and humped the flat onto the back of trailer, and I undo the wheel nuts with my ass all the other ex truck drivers will know what I mean, MH tyres do those in my sleep

Well I've been a trucker for a few decades and only once did a company ask me to jack up the wagon and take wheel off ready for tyre company. Absolutely not.
I wouldn't even consider it. I'm a trucker not a grease monkey or tyre changer.

 

[vwalan]

course there could be a skill in taking off a truck wheel and repairing the tyre or swapping it . its easy driving a truck ,dont even get your hands dirty.
typical of why we employ polish drivers these days .

 

[EX51SSS]

course there could be a skill in taking off a truck wheel and repairing the tyre or swapping it . its easy driving a truck ,dont even get your hands dirty.
typical of why we employ polish drivers these days .

Well I understand that. You pay peanuts, you get monkeys.
I know most people look down at lowly truckers but we are professionals and would you expect a consultant to mop the floor or a solicitor to empty the dust bins?
I'm positive there is a skill in changing a truck tyre but I've worked for a lot of companies., general haulage and specialist hazardous goods and I've never seen these companies have a spare tyre an/or wheel on their tractor or trailer and it's only foreign truckers that have space for one.
I've certainly no space or room for a tyre or wheel
Also, I doubt whether, as a driver you changed a wheel and it caused a problem later down the road, would you be insured?
So you'd have to carry a sufficiently good quality jack to lift it clear, tyre wrench, possibly also air wrench, tyre, the right place to enable you to change the tyre safely for yourself and others, a torque wrench, tyre levers, air line, cones for the road for safety AND the skill to do it properly. Tyre balance weights, a tyre balancer. So in short, another trailer behind the trailer and get a showmmans licence too. Ah yes, good idea.

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[vwalan]

trucks used to come with a suitable jack and l bar and extension . many still do.
as to balanv=cing when have trucks had balancing done hardly ever if ever no need to have air lines or a air gun .
but i took it your truck at the time did have a jack and tools to remove the wheel.
and yes i see nothing wrong with consultants or soliciters mopping up and emptying bins .
after all i do it . and i owned the firm .
yes i have hgv etc and can and will change tyres etc
its definately a bad thing for any industry when anyone thinks they are too good to do a so called lower persons job.
there is no such thing as a showmans licence . i know have been a showman . and still pull a living van .
but never mind . polish drivers work harsd and get top money these days . shame uk workers arent as useful for the companies .

 

[crabman]

firm I worked for would not pay for a company to change a wheel we had to do it ourselves, the truck had a large jack and a half sized scaffolding pole which we had jump down on to crack the nuts on the wheel brace before we could get it off, many ex truck drivers will know what I am talking about, in the 70ts it was hard to get job and the buggers had us to run around like fools, I had to anyway. it was either that or no work at all here where I live, glad I left that job in the end and started my own business, arrogant gits had Gun dogs for their shooting and they treated them better than the drivers,

 

[busby]

Well I've been a trucker for a few decades and only once did a company ask me to jack up the wagon and take wheel off ready for tyre company. Absolutely not.
I wouldn't even consider it. I'm a trucker not a grease monkey or tyre changer.

You had no choice when i started trucking,,,Anyway the boss never knew where you were so by changing your own he never found out,,,

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[busby]

Well I understand that. You pay peanuts, you get monkeys.
I know most people look down at lowly truckers but we are professionals and would you expect a consultant to mop the floor or a solicitor to empty the dust bins?
I'm positive there is a skill in changing a truck tyre but I've worked for a lot of companies., general haulage and specialist hazardous goods and I've never seen these companies have a spare tyre an/or wheel on their tractor or trailer and it's only foreign truckers that have space for one.
I've certainly no space or room for a tyre or wheel
Also, I doubt whether, as a driver you changed a wheel and it caused a problem later down the road, would you be insured?
So you'd have to carry a sufficiently good quality jack to lift it clear, tyre wrench, possibly also air wrench, tyre, the right place to enable you to change the tyre safely for yourself and others, a torque wrench, tyre levers, air line, cones for the road for safety AND the skill to do it properly. Tyre balance weights, a tyre balancer. So in short, another trailer behind the trailer and get a showmmans licence too. Ah yes, good idea.

What world are you in? Spare wheel bolted to underside of chassis,,Jack behind passenger seat,,,long scaffold bar and wheelbase back of cab. No balancing,,no torque to worry about,,mind you no brakes or cab heaters either,,,no tacho to worry about either,,BUSBY

 

[crabman]

you will remember well busby roping and sheeting a flatbed in all weathers, what a bloody nightmare and in those days we never had a bunk or sod all, today my bro does trucking and has everything even a microwave, the sod does not know he's born, crap in Germany in the Winter I never even had a night heater,

 

[EX51SSS]

trucks used to come with a suitable jack and l bar and extension . many still do.
as to balanv=cing when have trucks had balancing done hardly ever if ever no need to have air lines or a air gun .
but i took it your truck at the time did have a jack and tools to remove the wheel.
and yes i see nothing wrong with consultants or soliciters mopping up and emptying bins .
after all i do it . and i owned the firm .
yes i have hgv etc and can and will change tyres etc
its definately a bad thing for any industry when anyone thinks they are too good to do a so called lower persons job.
there is no such thing as a showmans licence . i know have been a showman . and still pull a living van .
but never mind . polish drivers work harsd and get top money these days . shame uk workers arent as useful for the companies .

Sounds like another Brexiteer to me.
No job is beneath me and I don't look down at anyone's job. I'm not a tyre changer, not a mechanic, not a technician. I'm a driver. I get paid to drive and that's what I do.

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[EX51SSS]

My goodness, you lot are going back to the dark ages. I can understand 'at one time' or when I started but not now.

 

[vwalan]

Sounds like another Brexiteer to me.
No job is beneath me and I don't look down at anyone's job. I'm not a tyre changer, not a mechanic, not a technician. I'm a driver. I get paid to drive and that's what I do.

so how do you check your wheel nuts for tightness .

 

[busby]

so how do you check your wheel nuts for tightness .

When the nuts cracked they were tight,,opposite thread on one side so they didn't come undone,,,Never lost one but checked them every day,,BUSBY,,

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[EX51SSS]

so how do you check your wheel nuts for tightness .

The mechanic and the pointers. As a driver, you are not required to check the tightness just the fact that they are secure correctly. Sorry, I may have mentioned this but I'm a driver. I don't carry tools, wrenches (which if not correctly stowed are illegal), torque wrench, tyre levers just the same as I don't carry a trolley jack, a spare clutch and fly wheel.

 

[EX51SSS]

What world are you in? Spare wheel bolted to underside of chassis,,Jack behind passenger seat,,,long scaffold bar and wheelbase back of cab. No balancing,,no torque to worry about,,mind you no brakes or cab heaters either,,,no tacho to worry about either,,BUSBY

Is this 2016 or what? Getting hands dirty. Rolling about on the floor in all the wet and crap. I'm a driver not an idiot

 

[vwalan]

its ok i worked for ats . so know myself .
rusty lines coming away from the nuts , or yellow pointers these days .
just thought it might help others think about daily checks on m,homes .
every one should check wheel nuts regularly and go around looking and touching checking thingsd .

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[EX51SSS]

its ok i worked for ats . so know myself .
rusty lines coming away from the nuts , or yellow pointers these days .
just thought it might help others think about daily checks on m,homes .
every one should check wheel nuts regularly and go around looking and touching checking thingsd .

I'm very happy at checking my moho and always check in advance of any trip and I also go regularly to my local tyre depot to check the condition of the tyres and the security. In fact, just had new tyres fitted all round and after 100k, went back to have them checked and everything ticketty boo.

 

[busby]

you will remember well busby roping and sheeting a flatbed in all weathers, what a bloody nightmare and in those days we never had a bunk or sod all, today my bro does trucking and has everything even a microwave, the sod does not know he's born, crap in Germany in the Winter I never even had a night heater,

Didn't have a day heater in anything with a Gardener engine in it,,absolutely freezing in winter,,sweltering in summer,,,but enjoyed every day when i was young,,,BUSBY.

 

[EX51SSS]

Didn't have a day heater in anything with a Gardener engine in it,,absolutely freezing in winter,,sweltering in summer,,,but enjoyed every day when i was young,,,BUSBY.

Then they stopped using the guy with the flag.

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[mustaphapint]

I'm sure I've read in the t&cs of previous breakdown recovery services that they will only come out to a puncture or tyre damage if you have a spare wheel and the tools to change it. I haven't checked my current RAC cover though and I guess it can't possibly apply to those vehicles that are supplied new without a spare. Nevertheless I carry a spare wheel in the MoHo (even though the spare is the original 17 year old tyre), a jack and a wheel nut spanner. So if I'm in a position where I can't change a wheel on my own at least I stand a reasonable chance of getting mobile again with some help.

 

[PeteH]

I`m now in the Carry JUST a tyre corner, because the only time I had issues there where NO tyres available, But the guy the RAC sent (France) had everything else he needed. When we got the spare out from under the R-V it was brand new, and cracked to hell where it had been up against the Chassis!. We "Got away with it" By swapping one of the rear twins for the failed Front and fitting the "Spare" temporarily to the OS rear. Then "proceed with caution" to a Campsite and wait for a New tyre to be shipped from blighty!.

Pete

 

[busby]

Not really a discussion,,you either don't mind changing a wheel and can do it or don't want to or can't do it,,Everyone to their own,,I personally like the independence of being able to change my own if i have to. I realise i will reach an age at some time when it isn't possible but ok at the moment,,BUSBY.

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[funflair]

I'm OK got the same Jack as @Techno

Martin

 

[busby]

I'm OK got the same Jack as @Techno

Martin

Thats cheating,,BUSBY,,

 

[EX51SSS]

Not really a discussion,,you either don't mind changing a wheel and can do it or don't want to or can't do it,,Everyone to their own,,I personally like the independence of being able to change my own if i have to. I realise i will reach an age at some time when it isn't possible but ok at the moment,,BUSBY.

I'll certainly change on my car or moho because they carry a spare. SWMBO car has different sized tyres front and back so has the tyre filler option. But I will not, and I stress will not change a wheel on my company vehicle, a truck.

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[scotzsue]

No jack... spare tyre only. Biggest tool in the van is a torque wrench.

Not saying what the biggest tool is in our van, I do however carry a trolley jack and extendable wheel wrench, and know how to use them, wouldn't want to attempt changing the wheel on the van though.

 

[busby]

I'll certainly change on my car or moho because they carry a spare. SWMBO car has different sized tyres front and back so has the tyre filler option. But I will not, and I stress will not change a wheel on my company vehicle, a truck.

As you don't carry a spare, jack or wheelbase in your truck there is nothing to stress,,you are unable to change a wheel you don't have,,,BUSBY.

 

[Peter A Forbes]

Our Mercedes 614D was sent from the factory with no spare wheel or tools, and we didn't get one when we bought it either, so a new spare wheel and tyre was bought, plus two jacks, a 10 tonne one for the lift height and a 6 tonne one to get underneath the springs or chassis..

A suitable 6-point socket, knuckle bar and extension was also bought, plus a decent tow rope and two big chunks of 2" thick Oak timber. The timber is to put UNDER the jacks on soft ground.

Having the jack sink into soft ground is no fun!

Peter

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