How is an awning defined on a campsite.

[68c]

Both major camping clubs list their pitches as with and without awning.

I am unsure how they define a motorhome awning.

Is it the wind out sun shade permanently fixed to the side of my van, or is it the drive away tent connected by a tunnel to the van.

I know it seems a daft questions, its just both are described as awnings in the camping shops.

 

[Googlebot]

I always understood if the feet were on the ground, it’s an awning.

That said, I would never pay extra for it on a commercial site.

 

[Langtoftlad]

As they both have evolved from caravan sites - I expect their expectation is for a caravan awning, not a sunshade we call an awning.

 

[DavidG58]

Having been ‘conned’ many years back I now only book an awning pitch

On a C&MC site they are exactly the same price but the non awning pitches are usually tiny and often funny shapes added at end of rows often on grass

 

[rich g]

I think the ones attached to the van are called a canopy,at least thats what i call mine & never pay for an awning.

rich

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[Riverbankannie]

Although I call the wind out sunshade an awning, as in Let’s wind out the awning, or where is the awning pole?, I never declare an awning for pitches if there is extra cost. I think in campsite terms, an awning is a permanent structure as in erected on arrival and it stays until you leave.

 

[Kannon Fodda]

If you are putting sides onto your wind out then I would expect sites to definitely call it an awning. You've extended your enclosed space accommodation.

 

[Gellyneck]

Immaterial of what you call it, awning, canopy, etc, I believe the policy is you cannot use it on a non-awning pitch as it potentially compromises the "6m rule".

 

[Riverbankannie]

If you are putting sides onto your wind out then I would expect sites to definitely call it an awning. You've extended your enclosed space accommodation.

Maybe, but a lot of caravans set up like this with a windbreak in addition to a full awning. There is no extra for that and they have a towcar.

 

[Odd-no-more]

I was told by the ccc that an awning is anything that needs more space, so you declare an awning and get a wider pitch.

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[Robert Clark]

I think that a permanent erection might be classed differently from one that is extended from time to time

 

[The Wino]

I think that a permanent erection might be classed differently from one that is extended from time to time

Ooeeer Mrs!!!!

 

[Rogerlathbury]

If you are putting sides onto your wind out then I would expect sites to definitely call it an awning. You've extended your enclosed space accommodation.

How about if you wind out your awning and out out a windbreak?

 

[Clarky]

I think that a permanent erection might be classed differently from one that is extended from time to time

Trust you to be the mucky minded one!

Richard.

 

[68c]

Thank you all.

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[Captain Yoghurtpot]

Maybe, but a lot of caravans set up like this with a windbreak in addition to a full awning. There is no extra for that and they have a towcar.
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Yep, seen plenty of these in my time as a caravanner and a few since Motorhoming.
Seems to me the only reason some people set up like this is just to exhibit all the parafinalia that they have and can offord.
And usually it's a 4 or 6 berth with 2 occupants!
But that's just my warped opinion only folks.
I thank you.

 

[Nikki]

C@cc is definitely an erected awning.
Wind out is considered just a sun canopy and doesn't count

 

[kevenh]

This is crystal clear isn’t it?
My wind out canopy was declared not an awning when I queried it for a C&MC booking.

 

[Cheshirecat57]

You can wind out your roller sun-shade on a non-awning pitch, but if you put a front and sides on it, I think you would be pushing it

 

[Langtoftlad]

My quest pop up is also not considered to be an awning, as long as there's space within my pitch boundaries.

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[The Wino]

Yep, seen plenty of these in my time as a caravanner and a few since Motorhoming.
Seems to me the only reason some people set up like this is just to exhibit all the parafinalia that they have and can offord.
And usually it's a 4 or 6 berth with 2 occupants!
But that's just my warped opinion only folks.
I thank you.

What I can't get my head around is some people put all that stuff out then lie on a sunlounger and never seem to go anywhere they might as well save the expense and effort and sit in the garden.

 

[Cheshirecat57]

Surely,everyone doing it “their way” is the whole point

 

[pelican]

Maybe, but a lot of caravans set up like this with a windbreak in addition to a full awning. There is no extra for that and they have a towcar.
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Should have stayed at home!

 

[Off da Grid]

The difference is the width of the pitch.
To enable the 6m rule if the pitches are for no awning they are closer together

 

[pelican]

Yep, seen plenty of these in my time as a caravanner and a few since Motorhoming.
Seems to me the only reason some people set up like this is just to exhibit all the parafinalia that they have and can offord.
And usually it's a 4 or 6 berth with 2 occupants!
But that's just my warped opinion only folks.
I thank you.

And gold chains, Oh and the wives go to the ablutions block in Rollers

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[golly]

Having been ‘conned’ many years back I now only book an awning pitch

On a C&MC site they are exactly the same price but the non awning pitches are usually tiny and often funny shapes added at end of rows often on grass

DITTO.

 

[68c]

Caravan and Motorhome Club replied to my query about awnings.

Their 'Data Sheet No 7 Choosing an Awning' suggests an awning is:-

An awning is defined as a closable tent intended to be fixed to a stationary vehicle or to stand free of the vehicle.

It also mentions Safari Rooms:-

Roll out canopies have become extremely popular for their ease of use. When combined with optional front and side panels it's easy to create an enclosed space, sometimes known as a 'safari room'.

That seems clear, canopy on its own is not an enclosed space so not an awning.


I do take on board the comments that non awning pitches may be smaller and in odd locations. So if cost is the same go for an awning site.

 

[DavidG58]

Caravan and Motorhome Club replied to my query

I do take on board the comments that non awning pitches may be smaller and in odd locations. So if cost is the same go for an awning site.

when we first booked as a motorhome we knew we wouldn’t have even our wind out so booked non awning so Leaving the awning pitches for those that might need one

the bit of grass we were given was barely big enough for the motorhome, while several larger pitches went unused

I asked for a different pitch, but was told as I had booked a non awning pitch that was all I could move to. I pointed out how many empty places they had even on their own plan in the office. They were not going to let me change

I then suggested I cancelled my booking and rebooked but you have already booked in sir

there was no changing their up themselves attitude, so I cancelled nights 2&3 and went home early suffering the tiny and inappropriate pitch Overnight

 

[82125]

Immaterial of what you call it, awning, canopy, etc, I believe the policy is you cannot use it on a non-awning pitch as it potentially compromises the "6m rule".

not according the law, (which is 6m rule, that the sites enforce). The 6m is is exclusive of awnings, canopies, cars and anything else. Only the wall of the motorhome/caravan is included in the 6m rule. I just read up on it before coming across this post. (I was also looking to see if wind out canopies are classed as awnings).
3m gap between car and neighbouring awnings as i understood it.

 

[Bleau’s]

According to most councils site license conditions there must be 6 m clear if the awning is to be used for sleeping in having been a license holder for a number of years it always causes confusion.

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