Hot water and blow heaters (1 Viewer)

[whosthatgirl_x]

hi clever folk,

We have a 2005 CI Carioca 656 with no manual. Trying to fathom how to get hot water and heating out of the blowers? The wee gas fire working but not blowing air around.

Any ideas folks? The pic is of the boiler

 

[WillH]

Need a better picture of the label to ID the model.

 

[whosthatgirl_x]

^{_{Subscribers  do not see these advertisements}}

 

[cmcardle75]

That looks like an Truma Ultrastore. It does hot water only. Your heating system is completely independent and might even be from a different manufacturer (although probably isn't). It is controlled by remote switches. There are separate ones for mains and electric (although not sure you have electric on this version). So, to get hot water, you will need to fill your water tank, turn on pump and make sure water comes out of the hot tap (it will be cold at this point). Only when this happens, ensure you have a gas supply (check your hob to be sure). Make sure the cowl cover is removed outside. Make sure the gas is turned on at the manifold (no idea where this would be). Now find the Truma Ultrastore gas control and turn on.

 

[tonyidle]

If you do manage to get hot water out of the blowers ......................................... you may regret asking .

 

[Phill D]

your gas fire "Wee gas fire"! is all you got for heating. you should be able to turn the fan on and hear it running.

Quote!!
Truma Ultraheat Units
It is a duel fuel unit, this means that it runs on 240v mains electric and gas. The Ultra Heat is equipped with a fan that allows the warm air from the heater to be passed around the caravan via a system of pipes. This allows the whole caravan to be kept at a specific temperature.

you should be able to look up the model number and download operating instructions.

^{_{Subscribers  do not see these advertisements}}

 

[whosthatgirl_x]

your gas fire "Wee gas fire"! is all you got for heating. you should be able to turn the fan on and hear it running.

Quote!!
Truma Ultraheat Units
It is a duel fuel unit, this means that it runs on 240v mains electric and gas. The Ultra Heat is equipped with a fan that allows the warm air from the heater to be passed around the caravan via a system of pipes. This allows the whole caravan to be kept at a specific temperature.

you should be able to look up the model number and download operating instructions.

Awww i can't find instuctions anywhere.

 

[Phill D]

this is for the S3004 yours may be a different model but i suspect the operation will be very similar....


or

 

[gus-lopez]

Quote!!
Truma Ultraheat Units
It is a duel fuel unit, this means that it runs on 240v mains electric and gas. The Ultra Heat is equipped with a fan that allows the warm air from the heater to be passed around the caravan via a system of pipes. This allows the whole caravan to be kept at a specific temperature.

you should be able to look up the model number and download operating instructions.

That one isn't it is the same as mine, gas only. There is nothing on the label apart from gas info.

^{_{Subscribers  do not see these advertisements}}

 

[haganap]

our first ever van many years ago was a Carioca 5, (same vehicle) loved it to bits and the rear bunks were brill for our then small kids.

with regard the heatng, pretty sure we had blown heating as well, have you any outlets?

 

[Phill D]

That one isn't it is the same as mine, gas only. There is nothing on the label apart from gas info.

i remember the type , yes gas only, unless the electric kit is fitted separately.

i would email Truma customer services with the model number and ask for a pdf copy of the operating instructions

 

[whosthatgirl_x]

Ok so our fan inside the heater isn't working. And still no hot water? Any ideas about water folks? We do have wee air vents around the van but defo no fan working. Main concern now is how to get hot water.

^{_{Subscribers  do not see these advertisements}}

 

[XxAnthxX]

Here is the truma BS-10 manual.......

Truma BS10 Manual

Don't forget to take the cover off the vent outside......
Make sure it’s full of water before turning it on too....

 

[whosthatgirl_x]

Here is the truma BS-10 manual.......

Truma BS10 Manual

Don't forget to take the cover off the vent outside......
Make sure it’s full of water before turning it on too....

So, tried all that. Still no hot water. Anything else we can try?

 

[cmcardle75]

So, tried all that. Still no hot water. Anything else we can try?

Have you found the controls yet? Have you found the gas manifold? Does the gas hob work? What lights are showing on the controls?

^{_{Subscribers  do not see these advertisements}}

 

[whosthatgirl_x]

Have you found the controls yet? Have you found the gas manifold? Does the gas hob work? What lights are showing on the controls?

Everything we can find. Is there a reset button?

 

[whosthatgirl_x]

Here is the truma BS-10 manual.......

Truma BS10 Manual

Don't forget to take the cover off the vent outside......
Make sure it’s full of water before turning it on too....

Vent off xx

 

[whosthatgirl_x]

Have you found the controls yet? Have you found the gas manifold? Does the gas hob work? What lights are showing on the controls?

Gas hob and gas fire working (altho fan doesnt work) . Plugged into 240v just now so got the button in the middle position. Tried it with gas on and at 50 and 70° withoit joy. Drained system and refilled. Water coming out taps but not heating. Pump active.

^{_{Subscribers  do not see these advertisements}}

 

[cmcardle75]

Your picture of the boiler control shows it in the off position. Try pressing on the 70C side of the switch.

 

[whosthatgirl_x]

Your picture of the boiler control shows it in the off position. Try pressing on the 70C side of the switch.

Is the middle setting not for running on 240v?? Youtube videos messing with my head lol. If in 70° does the gas need to be on? Really wish we had the instructions

 

[cmcardle75]

Gas hob and gas fire working (altho fan doesnt work) . Plugged into 240v just now so got the button in the middle position. Tried it with gas on and at 50 and 70° withoit joy. Drained system and refilled. Water coming out taps but not heating. Pump active.

It will take about 30 minutes to heat up. Leave in the 70C position. I don't think you have electric heating on your model, so you are reliant on gas. I haven't had one of these with this format control. The previous version I did have had a red light that came on if the burner failed to ignite after 3 or 5 attempts. Most installations with have a gas manifold with taps to turn off individual appliances. It is worth finding.

^{_{Subscribers  do not see these advertisements}}

 

[cmcardle75]

Is the middle setting not for running on 240v?? Youtube videos messing with my head lol. If in 70° does the gas need to be on? Really wish we had the instructions

Instructions are available from Truma's website. Typically, they have a separate control panel for electric and gas. Both can be run simultaneously and will halve reheat time if used together. However, there was no reference to 230V on your label that I noticed, which, if true, would mean you'd likely only have the gas control panel installed. The gas switch in the middle means "off". It could mean electric only, if you had it and the electric was turned on.

 

[whosthatgirl_x]

our first ever van many years ago was a Carioca 5, (same vehicle) loved it to bits and the rear bunks were brill for our then small kids.

with regard the heatng, pretty sure we had blown heating as well, have you any outlets?

Yeah we do but the fire isn't blowing. It's heating up but no air so suspect the blower is broken

 

[cmcardle75]

Yeah we do but the fire isn't blowing. It's heating up but no air so suspect the blower is broken

It may also be a control issue, or just a fuse. These heaters are designed to run without the fan to use less electricity. It may just need to be turned on, if you can find and work out the controls.

^{_{Subscribers  do not see these advertisements}}

 

[whosthatgirl_x]

Instructions are available from Truma's website. Typically, they have a separate control panel for electric and gas. Both can be run simultaneously and will halve reheat time if used together. However, there was no reference to 230V on your label that I noticed, which, if true, would mean you'd likely only have the gas control panel installed. The gas switch in the middle means "off". It could mean electric only, if you had it and the electric was turned on.

Aww ok, tried gas, 70° and ensured gas was operational (fire and cooker working). Made sure the 4 valves under sink were on and left for an hour but still no hot water. Booooò. I emailed truma for instructions and advice. The generic email states they'll be in touch in a few days. Can't help but think its user error but tried all the combinations you've all suggested and still no hot water. Tmoro I'll check the fuses but failing that, I'm stumped.

 

[cmcardle75]

Aww ok, tried gas, 70° and ensured gas was operational (fire and cooker working). Made sure the 4 valves under sink were on and left for an hour but still no hot water. Booooò. I emailed truma for instructions and advice. The generic email states they'll be in touch in a few days. Can't help but think its user error but tried all the combinations you've all suggested and still no hot water. Tmoro I'll check the fuses but failing that, I'm stumped.

There may be a fault. Do you see any red lights or similar on the control panel? There could also be a broken fuse (which would prevent any red lights showing). Not that I'm sure that the new version even has a red light to show lighting failure.

 

[whosthatgirl_x]

There may be a fault. Do you see any red lights or similar on the control panel? There could also be a broken fuse (which would prevent any red lights showing). Not that I'm sure that the new version even has a red light to show lighting failure.

No lights, which seems odd now after reading more. No red. No green. Hmmm anyway, taken out the pcb and removed 1.6a fuse. We will change this in the morning and try that. Otherwise, we have no clue what to try next. We just wanna go a wee trip now! Lol

^{_{Subscribers  do not see these advertisements}}

 

[XxAnthxX]

Really wish we had the instructions

Here is the truma BS-10 manual.......

Truma BS10 Manual

Instructions are available from Truma's website.

You have the manual for the boiler.....that’s all the instructions you would have received for the boiler from new.

 

[whosthatgirl_x]

You have the manual for the boiler.....that’s all the instructions you would have received for the boiler from new.

Balls. Ok, going to find a replacement 1.6a fuse to try. Failing that, we will travel without hot water. Thanks everyone for all your help x

 

[XxAnthxX]

whosthatgirl_x

Before you change the 1.6A glass fuse, Have you got 12v power coming into to the boiler control?

Are all your other 12v Systems in the van working?

There could be another fuse in your main fuse box that supplies the boiler check there if you have no 12v after you check for 12v as above.

I’d also check every fuse in the fuse box as it could be where you air blower fault lies too.

Put a multi meter set on v dc across the + and - cable connecting at the Pcb and see what you have, should be in excess of 12v

^{_{Subscribers  do not see these advertisements}}