Honda genny sales thread,my friend was scammed.

[bigtree]

Some of you may have saw the post I made for my friends who have sold their van and had a couple of items for sale that I posted on here, well he was conned by someone. Here is his post from another site,


I Know, I know, we should have known better and we did take precautions and even used a bank account with very little money.
We were selling a Honda Geny on Gumtree and insisted on bank transfer even refused cash offers!
The Scam
A guy messaged and was coming from Manchester, some 36 miles away
He arrived to buy and did not try to knock the price down (WARNING SIGN)
Agreed to pay by bank transfer and showed me on his phone that he had sent the payment in full.
As we know, it can take a couple hours to go through and he was not prepared to wait.
He insisted that I checked his phone to see the money had been sent and it had.
He offered that we could photograph him and his new BMW , silly me just photographed the car.
The money never came to my bank account
The strange thing is that he was carrying two phones for a transaction that only took about 15 minutes, I wonder if the second phone could in any way divert his payment or was it just maybe used as a router.
After the money did not arrive, I checked his car on DVLA and the colour was wrong.
Police have been notified and their interest shot up when I mentioned the car colour was different.
Now anybody else selling BEWARE.
The car was a beige BMW 520 D, reg number YH69TPX
The man a young black haired Irish accent (makes me wonder) knew motorhomes, and said he had a Roller Team with a U shape lounge. Even knew the model number and said his father had a van.
Talked about the ferry to Santander and Dieppe
He certainly talked the talk was very clean and polite
Just beware of this scam and again I know it was my fault, and it did go against my knowledge

 

[Larby]

These days money hits the recipients account in seconds so check Your account in future.
Thanks for the info though.

 

[Bobby-gg]

Yes, always wait for the money to come into your bank - or, accept pound notes!

A few year's ago I sold some machinery on ebay, buyer was polish and would send their courier to collect with pound note's.

Arrived as expected but said that he couldn't withdraw the money from the atm so would phone boss and do direct bank transfer, but boss wanted to pay equal amounts from two different bank accounts.

First payment arrived within moments of the telephone call, and they then expected the goods to be loaded onto the van, I flatly refused, and left the gear hanging on the fork lift truck for the next four hours until they eventually got the message that it wasn't getting loaded until all the money had cleared my account.

All the time the driver was waiting he was on the phone talking in Polish, whilst I just got on with my work, I'd like to think that he then missed his ferry home because of the delay but he was probably just late in going to his next pick up scam, as I'm sure I wasn't their first and only purchase

 

[Tombola]

up until not long ago even some BACS transactionn could be clawed back within a couple of hours by the sender.

You know what wrror you made bigtree so no point in us harping about it.

They rely on trusting people. Tossers

 

[bigtree]

up until not long ago even some BACS transactionn could be clawed back within a couple of hours by the sender.

You know what wrror you made bigtree so no point in us harping about it.

They rely on trusting people. Tossers

Think you need to read the post properly.

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[fat haggis]

Your friend should have waited until it hit his account.
I sold a motorhome last year to a man from jersey. He flew into Glasgow I picked him up and drove up here he loved the van and did a bank transfer. Showed me it on his phone. And it didn’t arrive in my account for 26 hrs. Guess who had to get a hotel and wait a total of 26 hrs before the keys got handed over.

 

[Swifter]

It’s in unusual for the seller to be scammed via a bank transfer and to insist on that rather than cash .I don’t understand the objection to cash .

 

[Lenny HB]

up until not long ago even some BACS transactionn could be clawed back within a couple of hours by the sender.

You know what wrror you made bigtree so no point in us harping about it.

They rely on trusting people. Tossers

Not been able to do that since banks went over to the faster payment system & that was a good few years ago.

 

[Lenny HB]

I would say a bit dum accepting what someone shows you on their phone.

It’s in unusual for the seller to be scammed via a bank transfer and to insist on that rather than cash .I don’t understand the objection to cash .

Unless you can be 100% sure the notes are not fake it's not a good idea to take cash for large amounts, Pay it in at the bank and when they cash up if they notice forgeries they will debit your account.

 

[Jimbohorlicks]

Al the transfers that I have made have been done in a few minutes

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[bigtree]

It’s in unusual for the seller to be scammed via a bank transfer and to insist on that rather than cash .I don’t understand the objection to cash .

My friend said there is a lot of counterfeit notes in their area just now.

 

[donkey]

I sold a Hymer several years ago. The very nice couple arrived with a brand new hold-all full of bank notes.
It took absolutely ages to count the money.
It then took nearly a week to pay it into the bank as there was limit of how much could be deposited per day, to hinder money laundering.
However, the very nice couple said I could keep the new hold-all.
A good transaction but still a pain.
Geoff

 

[Tombola]

Think you need to read the post properly.

Maybe I didnt make my self clear enough.

What I was trying to say was even if you/they HAD waited till the money was showing in your acount, it was only recently (few years though acording to lenny) that if THEY still cold have clawed it back if it was only a few hours old so could still have been scammed. Used to happen regularly

Just ashame whever let the guy go without making sure the money was secure was an easy target.

As for making sure it was an accunt withe very little money in?? means nothing they couldnt get money OUT..they were just allowed to go without putting money IN.

they will do it to the next easy taget soon enough

 

[bigtree]

Maybe I didnt make my self clear enough.

What I was trying to say was even if you/they HAD waited till the money was showing in your acount, it was only recently (few years though acording to lenny) that if THEY still cold have clawed it back if it was only a few hours old so could still have been scammed. Used to happen regularly

Just ashame whever let the guy go without making sure the money was secure was an easy target.

As for making sure it was an accunt withe very little money in?? means nothing they couldnt get money OUT..they were just allowed to go without putting money IN.

they will do it to the next easy taget soon enough

I wasn't there or it wouldn't have happened,I live in Scotland and they live is Stoke.

 

[Gellyneck]

I wasn't there or it wouldn't have happened,I live in Scotland and they live is Stoke.

Careful there Trev somebody might get the idea you could be in Glasgow!

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[bigtree]

Careful there Trev somebody might get the idea you could be in Glasgow!

Not a hope in hell.

 

[Bucket]

I recently sold my daughters car. The purchaser came all the way from Ipswich by train and after agreeing it was what he wanted said he'd pay via the bank. I said nope, only cash.
Luckily we both had a Lloyds account so we drove down to the local branch, he drew out the cash and it stayed on the tellers side and then went straight into my account. The teller only had to count it once. We both had to show appropriate ID of course.
This is the advice given by 'Honest John' in the Daily Telegraph. Everyone was happy. Worked a treat.

 

[Jim]

This is the advice given by 'Honest John' in the Daily Telegraph. Everyone was happy. Worked a treat.

Lucky you were both at the same bank. Not sure why you didn't want a transfer. Regardless of what honest John says, Bank transfers are the safest way. Just make sure the funds are cleared into your account before parting with the goods.

 

[Bucket]

Lucky you were both at the same bank. Not sure why you didn't want a transfer. Regardless of what honest John says, Bank transfers are the safest way. Just make sure the funds are cleared into your account before parting with the goods.

I would have taken the cash over the counter if the bank had refused to pay it into my account elsewhere.

 

[Sundowners]

When we sold our motorhome,we did a bank transfer, and I immediately transferred that money into another of our accounts, no way were they going to able to get it back out.

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[Sapper520]

It’s in unusual for the seller to be scammed via a bank transfer and to insist on that rather than cash .I don’t understand the objection to cash .

Forgeries.

 

[Sapper520]

When we sold our motorhome,we did a bank transfer, and I immediately transferred that money into another of our accounts, no way were they going to able to get it back out.

Best way to do it.

 

[gus-lopez]

Pay it in at the bank and when they cash up if they notice forgeries they will debit your account.

Unless of course they've paid it out the till to my wife.

no way were they going to able to get it back out.

As long as it isn't in the same bank or even group. In the t&c' sit always states they get ig from any of your other accounts.

 

[John.]

When we sold our motorhome,we did a bank transfer, and I immediately transferred that money into another of our accounts, no way were they going to able to get it back out.

This is what we’re planning on doing shortly.
Would I be correct to say once the transfer shows up on our 1st account and we then transfer it to our 2nd account we’re safe.
I’d expect the transfer to be within moments normally would Irish - English be any different?

 

[Lenny HB]

I’d expect the transfer to be within moments normally would Irish - English be any different?

It varies I've know Santander ones take a couple of hours sometimes, generally though they are instant. One country to another normally takes a couple of hours or if late in the day won't arrive until the next day. Foreign transfers best done before 2 pm.

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[bigtree]

This is what we’re planning on doing shortly.
Would I be correct to say once the transfer shows up on our 1st account and we then transfer it to our 2nd account we’re safe.
I’d expect the transfer to be within moments normally would Irish - English be any different?

Or even Scottish.

 

[Sapper520]

Or even Scottish.

I’ve heard rumours about Scotsmen and their money......

 

[John.]

Guess I’m just being paranoid but don’t fancy having A transport truck parked outside our house for hours when the driver has a ferry to catch.

 

[Sapper520]

Guess I’m just being paranoid but don’t fancy having A transport truck parked outside our house for hours when the driver has a ferry to catch.

How would you feel if said truck took your van and you got zero for it?

I’d rather lose the sale than my money / van.

No money, no van.

 

[Sundowners]

This is what we’re planning on doing shortly.
Would I be correct to say once the transfer shows up on our 1st account and we then transfer it to our 2nd account we’re safe.
I’d expect the transfer to be within moments normally would Irish - English be any different?

Ours went through directly, once through I did the transfer into our other account, and that went through instantly. This was with Nationwide.

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