Having trouble getting correct Crit'air sticker for France (1 Viewer)

[StephandJohn]

I have easily obtained a correct emissions sticker for Germany, however, after a lot of email exchanges with the French Crit'air government department I am getting nowhere. Perhaps I have got it wrong, but our motorhome is 3.4 t and therefore under the 3.5 t band and it was first registered 01/03/2007.

When you apply for a Crit'air on the website there is a choice of 5 categories:
Private car (class M1)
Light Commercial Vehicles (Class N1)
Motorcycles (Class L3e L4e L5e or L7e)
Mopeds (Class L1 e, L2e or L6e)
Heavy Goods Vehicles (Class M2 M3 N2 or N3)

There is no category for a motorhome so the nearest is a Private car. I emailed and explained this to them but as yet have not received guidance on which category it should be.

I filled in the form to the best of my ability. https://www.certificat-air.gouv.fr/demande-ext/cgu

This simulator came out with Level 3, even if I changed the vehicle category to Light Commercial vehicle which it is not. Perhaps motorhomes even those under 3.5t are categorised as HGVs for some reason? In that case it would be a level 4, not level 3 so the french are right.

I could not fill in indication of the environmental category as it is not shown on the registration certificate.

Neither could I fill in the CO2 in g/km.

I attached the registration document and a few days later they sent back an invoice for sticker level 4. According to the page advising on which category your vehicle comes in it should be Level 3.

Level 4 as far as I can understand is for vehicles registered prior to Jan 2006.

I have explained this many times by email - all I got back last time was 'please reorder being more fussy about the informations' - French bureaucracy at its finest.

Reordered and this morning received an invoice for yet another Level 4 sticker.

Help!

 

[EX51SSS]

I still don't know why they do it all on line.. Wouldn't it be just as easy like the German Umvelt and call at an authorised garage with the documents?

 

[Mr Colpot]

Our 2008 3.5t 3ltr diesel is a 3. Does it have your class as M1 on your V5? I filled in very little info as I didn't have it (a lot you only get for newer vehicles) and it came back a 3. Out of interest what is your number is your German sticker?

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[MC 55 FUN]

M1

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[Richard Birkett]

I don’t know if it helps but the French categories are different to most other countries. As I understand it their 3 is equivalent to our or the german’s 4

 

[StephandJohn]

Our V5 does not show which class it is (apart from Motor Caravan). Our German sticker is Green, level 4.

Level 4 is correct in Germany as the most pollutant older vehicles are Euro 1 and the least pollutant newer ones are Euro 4, registered rom Jan 2006 onwards.

The French stickers work the other way round with the least pollutant starting at level 1 and the most pollutant being level 5.

There is no way we are level 4

Here is the chart giving all the categories

https://www.ecologique-solidaire.gouv.fr/certificats-qualite-lair-critair

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[StephandJohn]

I don’t know if it helps but the French categories are different to most other countries. As I understand it their 3 is equivalent to our or the german’s 4

That's right Richard. we have a German level 4 so should have a French level 3, not 4.

 

[Mr Colpot]

What if you apply and put the class as M1? All the motorhomes I have had have been M1 (apart from one van conversion which was N1 and apparently couldn't be changed even though it was a Motor Caravan) We have a German 4 and a French 3,

 

[maison]

You don’t need to enter the CO2 figure. It wasn’t on our V5 anyway. They base their classification on the Euro designation, (ours is Euro 6 compliant) of the vehicle. Date of first registration and VIN give them that.

Our December 2017 reg. has been classified as “2”.

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[Lenny HB]

Level 3 is for Euro 4 & Euro 5 Diesels and Level 2 for Euro 6, so you are correct. Motorhomes are classed as M1, but on this application I think you need to put it down as N1 it shouldn't make any difference.
I think the problem is you are not putting in the environmental category, it's not on your V5 but it will be on your Certificate of Conformity. A 2007 Diesel with a CAT will be Euro 4 so just put Euro 4 in.

 

[StephandJohn]

Level 3 is for Euro 4 & Euro 5 Diesels and Level 2 for Euro 6, so you are correct. Motorhomes are classed as M1, but on this application I think you need to put it down as N1 it shouldn't make any difference.
I think the problem is you are not putting in the environmental category, it's not on your V5 but it will be on your Certificate of Conformity. A 2007 Diesel with a CAT will be Euro 4 so just put Euro 4 in.

Thanks Lenny. I think you have spotted why this is happening. I did not put in Euro 4 in the environmental category because I did not know which one it was.

 

[Kevan]

mine is a 2013 Ducato and i have a two sticker my van is over 350O, click on attachment should open at the bottom of your screen as a pdf

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[SandJ]

See what M1 covers it shows definition clearly

 

[Speve]

Level 3 is for Euro 4 & Euro 5 Diesels and Level 2 for Euro 6, so you are correct. Motorhomes are classed as M1, but on this application I think you need to put it down as N1 it shouldn't make any difference.
I think the problem is you are not putting in the environmental category, it's not on your V5 but it will be on your Certificate of Conformity. A 2007 Diesel with a CAT will be Euro 4 so just put Euro 4 in.

Our Euro 5 is class 2 when I applied I just sent copy of docs as required and it came back yellow 2. I did put it in as light commercial

 

[BillyS]

Sorry to have gone off topic, but I just wish to say, nice to have met you at ATS Morecambe a couple of days ago, when I had my Tyres checked. BillyS

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[StephandJohn]

Hi Billy. Nice to meet you to. I'm sure we'll cross paths again. Have a good summer.
Steph and John

 

[GWAYGWAY]

My euro 6 with adblue is a category 2 yellow. badge.

 

[Tykatem]

Our Euro 5 is class 2 when I applied I just sent copy of docs as required and it came back yellow 2. I did put it in as light commercial

Did exactly the same for our 2012 Euro 5 and they sent us a yellow class 2 sticker

Pete

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[EMS]

Our Dethleffs FIAT Euro 6 van came back today as a level 2 by email, certificate is in post.

The German sticker is also in the post but I have yet to find details of Belgium certificates/stickers does any one have a web site with details?

Regards
Emsworth

 

[busby]

Our V5 does not show which class it is (apart from Motor Caravan). Our German sticker is Green, level 4.

Level 4 is correct in Germany as the most pollutant older vehicles are Euro 1 and the least pollutant newer ones are Euro 4, registered rom Jan 2006 onwards.

The French stickers work the other way round with the least pollutant starting at level 1 and the most pollutant being level 5.

There is no way we are level 4

Here is the chart giving all the categories

https://www.ecologique-solidaire.gouv.fr/certificats-qualite-lair-critair

Good old EU...thought it was all about intergration of rules and regulations,,they can't even agree on emissions,,,thang goodness for BREXIT,,,BUSBY