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anyone done this? I can't understand why it seems impossible to do it yourself?
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You don't need to do much more than you would for SVTech and he's about half the cost.You can use another engineer instead of SV Tech. The one Mel found is JR Consultancy. You need to do more yourself than you do with SV but he's a bit cheaper.
Correct ... despite our PVC being built on the heavy chassis and capable of 4250kg I still had to get this confirmed by John (engineer).If the question is can you do it yourself without using any engineer or consultant at all then I believe the answer is no. You can't just phone them up and say I want my van to be plated at 4000kg or whatever.
You need to supply DVLA with certain data to prove that the vehicle is capable of carrying the new weight and they require this data to be from someone who is qualified to provide it which is where the engineer comes in.
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You'll be lucky ... they usually don't' want to know ... I tried that and got nowhere!Wouldn't the motorhome manufacture certify it, in a letter / email if it could originally have been either?
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You can downgrade yourself but to upgrade you an engineer's statement confirming the chassis is capable of taking the additional load.
When I upgraded my van I found I was still limited to 2000 kg on the read axle I wouldn't have known without speaking to SV Tech.
Also the weight plates can only be produced by recognised engineers/companies.[/QUOTE
Interesting how do you go about down rating, just as a matter of interest, 70 next birthday?
Thanks for this , I have contacted John...and will use him. He is a little (don't know which word to,use....vague? Maybe?...although he does reply to emails) , but I am pleased that you recommend himYou'll be lucky ... they usually don't' want to know ... I tried that and got nowhere!
I did a LOT of research, ringing round etc before I found John ... even other companies told me to ring try him ... if you want to try to find another way I'm sure others would love to know but I seriously doubt if there is one as I'm sure I would have found it.
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John's fine, he's an older chap and 'old school' so doesn't like to 'promise' he can do it for you without all the info ... nothing to worry about as it's just his way.Thanks for this , I have contacted John...and will use him. He is a little (don't know which word to,use....vague? Maybe?...although he does reply to emails) , but I am pleased that you recommend him
will just mean getting everything out batts, gas bottles, spare wheel, etc and a trip to the weigh bridge, it was uprated by svtech from 3500 to 3850@Kevan ... ref downrating ... AFAIK it's just a paper exercise, probably just complete the bottom sections on page 2 of your V5C and send it in BUT before you do so you need to make sure that you will still have sufficient payload to use the vehicle and also bear in mind that in doing so you will reduce your individual axle weights, eg if you have 2400kg on the rear this will likely drop to 2000kg ...
If correct that the stated payload by the manufacturer at 3500kg was just 280kg I think you'll struggle if you downplate it.will just mean getting everything out batts, gas bottles, spare wheel, etc and a trip to the weigh bridge, it was uprated by svtech from 3500 to 3850
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Correct ... despite our PVC being built on the heavy chassis and capable of 4250kg I still had to get this confirmed by John (engineer).
I agree, all down to the medical i think, or change Motorhome, if i have to, typical off the French and German Motorhomes giving little payload, would be a shame because we really like this Moterhome ours is 150bhp, had it from new.If correct that the stated payload by the manufacturer at 3500kg was just 280kg I think you'll struggle if you downplate it.
https://www.outandaboutlive.co.uk/motorhomes/buyers-guide/motorhomes/details/7065-ff/12942
... in which case get yourself to a gym this year and get really, really, REALLY fit then you'll pass the medical to keep your licence without any problem ... just don't keel over by doing too much!I agree, all down to the medical i think, or change Motorhome, if i have to, typical off the French and German Motorhomes giving little payload, would be a shame because we really like this Moterhome had, it from new.
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You don't need to do much more than you would for SVTech and he's about half the cost.
@Kevan ... ref downrating ... AFAIK it's just a paper exercise, probably just complete the bottom sections on page 2 of your V5C and send it in BUT before you do so you need to make sure that you will still have sufficient payload to use the vehicle and also bear in mind that in doing so you will reduce your individual axle weights, eg if you have 2400kg on the rear this will likely drop to 2000kg ...
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SVTech informed me that uplating the GVW of the vehicle, would not increase the GTW. Really?
It's strange then, that uplating through JR Consultancy instead, has increased my GTW from 5300 to 6500Kgs.
I hope to pick up my updated weight plate today, which is being engraved with all the same details on the design weight certificate, as supplied by John Ruffles. Because I personally feel that his looks a bit pants, I also have a more official looking design weight certificate from Swansea, ie, a VTG 6 R
Cheers,
Jock.
@Kevan ... ref downrating ... AFAIK it's just a paper exercise, probably just complete the bottom sections on page 2 of your V5C and send it in BUT before you do so you need to make sure that you will still have sufficient payload to use the vehicle and also bear in mind that in doing so you will reduce your individual axle weights, eg if you have 2400kg on the rear this will likely drop to 2000kg ...
That is an interesting point which I hadn't appreciated. One (normally) has front and rear axle limits and an overall vehicle limit which is less than the sum of the two. I would have guessed that one could reduce the overall limit without reducing the individual axle limits, but would obviously have guessed incorrectly. If this can be easily answered, how does this work? Is there a formula by which they reduce the individual axle loads in such a case?
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HiSVTech informed me that uplating the GVW of the vehicle, would not increase the GTW. Really?
It's strange then, that uplating through JR Consultancy instead, has increased my GTW from 5300 to 6500Kgs.
I hope to pick up my updated weight plate today, which is being engraved with all the same details on the design weight certificate, as supplied by John Ruffles. Because I personally feel that his looks a bit pants, I also have a more official looking design weight certificate from Swansea, ie, a VTG 6 R
Cheers,
Jock.
A question slightly off topic from what the OP has asked but same subject.
Where do you place the uprated sticker, on top of the converters sticker or next to it?
John will send you all the info as well as what you need to send DVLA. Just waiting for my V5 to be returned following the helpful services of JR consultancyHi
I am awaiting the upgraded plate details from John....but I'm finding it hard to get him to explain what I do next! Where did you get your engraved updated weight plate please? And also how did you get the VTG 6 R ...do we get anything from John to send to them, he may be cheaper.and seems a pleasant enough bloke..but I'm struggling to get him to explain things clearly!
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I am awaiting the upgraded plate details from John....but I'm finding it hard to get him to explain what I do next! Where did you get your engraved updated weight plate please? And also how did you get the VTG 6 R ...do we get anything from John to send to them, he may be cheaper.and seems a pleasant enough bloke..but I'm struggling to get him to explain things clearly!
What are the costs & timescales of SVTech vs JR Consultancy?
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