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Apr 9, 2019
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It seems to a common fault on Mobilvettas that the graphics get stained and look rusty. Getting some quotes as it is out of warranty.However met a couple of Cathago owners and one Burstner owner in France and they seem to be having the same trouble, so is it the sun or poor quality graphics or both.
 
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Would appear that Graphics are not as good as they should be on Motorhomes in general. Have a six year old Carthago and the graphics are not very good as can be seen from the attached.
Presume it is a mixture of being in the sun and bad manufacturing. Motorhomes by definition are used for going abroad and being in good weather. Have spoken to a specialist vehicle graphics company who say the only way you can remove the old graphics to replace is to use a heat gun which damages the varnish underneath, and they state that all they could do is to put new graphics on top of the old ones, which can imagine would look as bad as the originals.
Any suggestions would be welcomed as to a sensible answer!
 

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Apr 9, 2019
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Managed to get the most noticeable graphic (front bonnet) all in one go but it was 25deg,(Last August) I was lucky it never left any behind and came off in one steady 2 minute pull. Its the roof front graphic that incidently was the 1st one to show a problem whilst under warranty and I got the replacement for it from the dealer but could not afford the time to fit it in for them to do as they needed two days and as they are at Preston and we are East Yorkshire it was not convenient, and they will not allow you to stay on their secure premises. So looking locally to get them done, will try them again when weather warms up.

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Feb 11, 2017
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Not MH graphics but I noticed coming up through France on the autoroute this year that a lot of the brown (tourism) signs had faded so far as to be barely distinguishable, and some the same in the UK too. Which did lead me to wonder if it's to do with sun damage?

But our Carthago is also showing similar damage to Ianj55's - although nothing has ever faded quite as badly as our original 2002 Autotrail!
 
Oct 18, 2021
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Been in the sign trade most of my life and all print will ultimately fade due to UV, reds & yellows being the worst.
Quality of inks & in particular the UV laminate used (if any) will affect longevity. Best scenario if you are replacing is to use pigmented (self coloured) vinyls and avoid printing. Cast vinyls are the best (most expensive) followed by polymeric calendered vinyl.
Unscrupulous suppliers will sometimes use cheap monomeric vinyl (the type that shrinks and exposes a ring of adhesive around the edge), if you're getting it done, ask them what they intend to use.

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Would appear that Graphics are not as good as they should be on Motorhomes in general. Have a six year old Carthago and the graphics are not very good as can be seen from the attached.
Presume it is a mixture of being in the sun and bad manufacturing. Motorhomes by definition are used for going abroad and being in good weather. Have spoken to a specialist vehicle graphics company who say the only way you can remove the old graphics to replace is to use a heat gun which damages the varnish underneath, and they state that all they could do is to put new graphics on top of the old ones, which can imagine would look as bad as the originals.
Any suggestions would be welcomed as to a sensible answer!
If it's just the red 'swoosh' thing that's the issue can you get them just to make one that it the same as that but very slightly larger so that it covers over the edges of where the varnish has been damaged?
 
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Mostly grey shades on our M/H the ones with name on are OK. It just looks as though it is a rust stain, apparently common on the Mobilvetta, otherwise its been a great M/H, as other M/H,s we have had its been the ancillaries that have let us down, ie fridges etc and just recently the sliding door screen elastication went so unable to open properly. The build quality has been good and any issues under warranty were quickly dealt with (Covid aside). Thanks for the advice though, the main thing is it has not stopped us enjoying it, recently did 10 weeks on the continent and apart from the door blind and the bike battery chargers packing up all good, even lack of battery power did not deter us.
 

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Use a hair dryer to remove them easy.
It depends ... some will come off well using that methods but others, no matter what you use, are a sod, the ones on a previous Globecar were an absolute begger to remove, even the dealer hated doing them they were that bad.

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Dec 19, 2020
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I've got a couple of creases on mine where the lettering crosses to red and also further back on the coachline. I put it down to a less than perfect application of the decals originally although mine are not as noticeable as Ianj55's.
 
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If it's just the red 'swoosh' thing that's the issue can you get them just to make one that it the same as that but very slightly larger so that it covers over the edges of where the varnish has been damaged?
Could you not buy some vinyl from eBay and cut your own slightly bigger?
I made a pattern out of wall paper. Cut the red vinyl and stuck them over the shitty orange ones on my new van



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Lenny HB

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Could you not buy some vinyl from eBay and cut your own slightly bigger?
I made a pattern out of wall paper. Cut the red vinyl and stuck them over the shitty orange ones on my new van



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"Beware of the dog" is it a stealth dog Alex?

Interesting gas outlet above the loo, do you use the methane to power the Barbie?:rofl:

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Jan 8, 2013
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"Beware of the dog" is it a stealth dog Alex?

Interesting gas outlet above the loo, do you use the methane to power the Barbie?:rofl:
Yep - no dog just a sticker :clap2:

I've not found the connection to the barbie - you could be right:Eeek: Be cheap gas though and there's loads of it:drinks:
 
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Used a Mk1 fingernail to remove all the graphics whilst bored and off grid in France during Covid lockdown 1, but ours is the sprayed aluform body so probably much easier than the tupperware type moho :giggle:
 
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Unscrupulous suppliers will sometimes use cheap monomeric vinyl (the type that shrinks and exposes a ring of adhesive around the edge), if you're getting it done, ask them what they intend to use.
That is what Hymer must have used on my motorhome.

The black vinyl has shrunk and shrivelled on the side which faces South where we park at home. Now the other side is beginning to show symptoms too

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Lenny HB

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I've had 3 Hymers surprisingly never had any problems with the graphics, LHS always faces south current van 5½ years old. The van does get polished and then waxed twice a year I wonder if that helps.
 
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Could you not buy some vinyl from eBay and cut your own slightly bigger?
I made a pattern out of wall paper. Cut the red vinyl and stuck them over the shitty orange ones on my new van



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have you got a picture before you did it?
 

Steve and Denise

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I'm confused by your pictures. Looks like you have wrapped the whole side in grey now. Is that correct?
This was the original
I'm confused by your pictures. Looks like you have wrapped the whole side in grey now. Is that correct?
this is what it looked like with the graphics on
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Steve and Denise

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Have you found any suitable replacement yet my graphics went the same on our Carthago and was thinking of replacing them but yours does look good with out.
Yes I have a local company doing some graphics for me next week.

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Nanniemate

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Use a hair dryer to remove them easy.
I was going to suggest that we used to change them on the vehicles every 6 months professionals put them on we took them off .always made sure they were well prepared .commercial operators do it regularly
 

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I was going to suggest that we used to change them on the vehicles every 6 months professionals put them on we took them off .always made sure they were well prepared .commercial operators do it regularly
The vinal that he used should certainly last a lot longer than the crap stuff used by Carthago.đź‘Ť

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