Grand Panorama (1 Viewer)

[Dazzles]

Thoughts on this please?

Price.
Practicality.
Running costs.

 

[Huwmari]

To me, it's very expensive and totally impractical for exploring just about anywhere! No doubt it's far from economical to run so that's a definite "no" from me.

 

[Littlewheels]

If your MH lifestyle is based on luxury living with a living space that allows you move about freely then this is a perfect MH.
Since I drive a MH of 9m+ it fits my criteria so I'm obviously biased,however, I have never had problems going anywhere I desired because of the size so if your a capable driver you won't either.

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[bigtwin]

To me, it's very expensive and totally impractical for exploring just about anywhere! No doubt it's far from economical to run so that's a definite "no" from me.

Is that an opinion based on driving similar sized vehicles?

Ian

 

[simsy56]

If you can afford it, and you like it, and it suits your needs..........go for it! If you listen to everyone, you would never leave your home.
I am the kind that thinks, 'I have the money, i like it, I am buying it' and what anyone else thinks!

Craig

 

[makems]

We considerd a Panorama but decided against the goldfish bowl of a window. It means that the drop down bed projects further into the living space and the roof.ine has to be raised to compensate.
We settled for an Elegance 810i instead which we loved for long term touring and which is now sadly up for sale (we have had to pack it in due to health reasons)
Details of the Elegance here if you are interested:

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[jongood]

Hi @Dazzles

Its difficult to know how far to go with this as I'm not sure how much experience you have.

Its a lot of motorhome for the money but then again that sort of money buys a lot of motorhome.
If you are buying your first mh I would strongly advise buying something cheaper to start off with as most people dont get it right first time and trying to sell a mh privatley for that sort of money can be difficult.

I notice its on Spanish plates, who is going to pay to get it registered in UK?


IMO if we re not talking large RV's, I dont think mpg matters too much, motorhomes dont tend to do large annual mileages and the difference between 20 and 30mpg over 5-10000 miles is not very much in the scheme of things.

My personal view I would shy away from the grand panorama because - even though I like a lot of glass - that is just a bit too much for hot climes, making it hard to keep the temperature inside down. otherwise Burstner Elegance offers a reasonable package for the price and IMO sits around the middle of quality A-classes ( there are other less well specced models in the Burstner range)

Any reasonably competent driver should be able to handle the size of it as they re not overwide or overtall, there may be some places where you are too long to go but you will soon weigh up where they are. One issue that that length does seem to have is rear ground clearance, the end of the rear overhang is not far off the ground so grounding can be an issue. but on the plus side its low enough to get under the trees on mediterannean campsites.

Hope this helps

Jon

 

[canopus]

The windscreen is the same type used on some coaches. Ive heard tales that they are prone to water ingress because they are so huge, apparently they expand/contract and flex and water gets inside. Should you have a problem with the screen you won't get one off the shelf from Autoglass. There are quite a few around for sale. Avoid IMO.

 

[Zepp]

We spoke to a German guy who had one he said he could not get windscreen cover I understand he went through Burstner for cover it may be different in the UK very nice van

He also had problems with the front windscreen blinds sagging

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[Dazzles]

Great feedback, thanks everyone. We had decided to opt for a LHD MH as all our touring will be in Europe. Further investigation in to this however seems to point to an absolute ball ache registering a foreign LHD MH in the U.K.

I've driven RHD in Europe and and it's very manageable just not ideal.

 

[Nik]

Looks very dark inside

 

[gus-lopez]

Great feedback, thanks everyone. We had decided to opt for a LHD MH as all our touring will be in Europe. Further investigation in to this however seems to point to an absolute ball ache registering a foreign LHD MH in the U.K.

I've driven RHD in Europe and and it's very manageable just not ideal.

Far easier & far cheaper than registering a UK one in Spain.

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[jongood]

Great feedback, thanks everyone. We had decided to opt for a LHD MH as all our touring will be in Europe. Further investigation in to this however seems to point to an absolute ball ache registering a foreign LHD MH in the U.K.

I've driven RHD in Europe and and it's very manageable just not ideal.

I used to have RHD and 6 years ago went LHD. Any future van will almost certainly be LHD its so much better. And I had also driven RHD for many years in Europe.

There are many on here who have registered foreign Mhs in UK without too many problems, its just something to factor in when deciding IMO.

 

[Zepp]

Our new van is LHD and our old van was LHD so much better in Europe

 

[Brian and Jo]

As Craig has said with Burstner,build wise you are pretty safe,its a good quality motorhome .If the layout suits you and you like the idea of the panoramic windscreen then go for it .you are only here once so they tell me Its the same size as our Arto and we never struggle to get on or off site and the interior space is great.Enjoy.
Brian & Jo

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[jdk62]

If you like it - just do it.....

 

[Dazzles]

If you like it - just do it.....

We fkin love it

 

[canopus]

Just wondering if they were ever sold on the German market? There isn't one for sale on mobile.de certainly not on the first 10 pages of Burstners

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[olley]

We fkin love it

Looks great, as the owner of a slightly bigger one, I say go for it. never had any real problems on sites with mine, and I have been shopping in it.

 

[bellabee]

We have LHD and much prefer it to RHD, both at home and on the Continent. We'd be very reluctant to go back to RHD.

 

[Alistair33]

I thought this was going to be a photo thread .... doh

Credit

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[Steve and Denise]

We have a 8.9 MTR van not had any problems as in the last 7 years but only done the UK up to now its horses for courses but the huge wind screen would be a no no for me but the one Mackems had would be more my choice.

 

[Dazzles]

We have provisionally agreed to purchase on condition it is in mint condition. Flying down to view and test drive a week on Friday.

 

[jessthedog]

My personal view I would shy away from the grand panorama because - even though I like a lot of glass - that is just a bit too much for hot climes, making it hard to keep the temperature inside down.

A French couple drove on to a site we were on,in a Panorama.
They showed me round it.
It is a lovely van, big garage and lounge area. Electric fixed bed, the works.

He said that the heat from the panoramic windscreen was too much, so had a vinyl wrap fitted at the top of screen the same colour as bodywork.


He said they didnt make many and They dont make them anymore.
Lovely motor though

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[Gellyneck]

Maybe it's just me but the leather seems to have stretched a fair bit. Wonder why?

 

[Abacist]

Just wondering if they were ever sold on the German market? There isn't one for sale on mobile.de certainly not on the first 10 pages of Burstners

I have had a number of searches running on mobile.de for a long time and they do come up from time to time and don't seem to hang around for long!

 

[Lenny HB]

Great feedback, thanks everyone. We had decided to opt for a LHD MH as all our touring will be in Europe. Further investigation in to this however seems to point to an absolute ball ache registering a foreign LHD MH in the U.K.

Apart from DVLA taking their time it's no problem registering LHD in the UK.

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[jongood]

A French couple drove on to a site we were on,in a Panorama.
They showed me round it.
It is a lovely van, big garage and lounge area. Electric fixed bed, the works.

He said that the heat from the panoramic windscreen was too much, so had a vinyl wrap fitted at the top of screen the same colour as bodywork.


He said they didnt make many and They dont make them anymore.
Lovely motor though

IMHO the last paragraph of this post tells the story.....

 

[Silver-Fox]

We have provisionally agreed to purchase on condition it is in mint condition. Flying down to view and test drive a week on Friday.

Fair play to you.

No pockets in shrouds, spend and enjoy I say

 

[martin2603]

Just observation but, no grill, no microwave, gas oven above the freezer? too high? 10k too dear
Travel world have a similar vehicle cheaper. But you can see the tv on this one but looks like its been moved, they were beside the hab door. and you need an owl neck to view it!

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