Got our new baby home, but has my day been spoilt by TWO Speeding tickets? (1 Viewer)

[jaykay]

OK, driving home without a hitch until I went by a speed camera on a single carrieagway with a 50 limit at 49 and get flashed. I then went through one where the limit was 60 (national speed limit) at 49 and got flashed again!!

The van has a gvw of 3850 and is registered as such as a motor caravan.

SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME DVLA WILL SEE I AM A MOTOR CARAVAN AND NOT GIVE ME SIX POINTS?

 

[DavidG58]

I wonder what triggered them, presumably you were unloaded and so not even over 3.5T, my wife had a land cruiser which tipped the scales at 4.2 T empty and that never triggered a camera

Good to see you were observing the correct speed for your weight though

Good luck

 

[Chipster]

I thought the fixed Truvello type cameras couldn't differentiate for weight. ?

 

[DBK]

Check your speedo against a GPS. But are you sure you were flashed?

 

[pappajohn]

If you do get a NIP then contest it.

Your speed limit is 50mph on A roads and 60mph on dual carraigeways

Motorhomes or motor caravans (more than 3.05 tonnes maximum unladen weight)
30 (48)
50 (80)
60 (96)
70 (112)

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[jaykay]

I am wondering if it is because we are PHGV tax bracket and the camera recognises this from the reg number?

 

[pappajohn]

Check your speedo against a GPS.

By law a speedo cannot read slow, and if proved it does the manufacturers will be prosecuted.
it can read fast.

 

[Chipster]

Check your speedo against a GPS. But are you sure you were flashed?

Hmmm. We're you reading 80 mph instead of 80kph!!!

 

[DBK]

I am wondering if it is because we are PHGV tax bracket and the camera recognises this from the reg number?

But as PJ said, even if you were limited to 50mph on a single carriageway road you were not over that.

 

[pappajohn]

I am wondering if it is because we are PHGV tax bracket and the camera recognises this from the reg number?

No, its the same restriction up to 7500kg then it gets even slower for goods vehicle.

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[Speve]

My van is 3850 and never been done are you sure you've been nabbed?

 

[JJ]

Deduct any fines from the Little One's pocket money...

(Don't forget inflation in your calculations.)

JJ

 

[Ivory55]

Height of your van probably triggered the camera, but when it goes through the system they will see its a Motorhome and disregard it.

 

[Scattycat]

I don't know if it is the same in the UK but over here the speed limit up to 3.5 tons is different if the vehicle is 3.5 tons +. Sometimes the fixed cameras will flash because it sees a large vehicle that the camera translates as being over 3.5 ton but when the reg is checked and the powers that realise it is MH then no fine is issued.
This has happened to us several times

 

[funflair]

I wonder what triggered them, presumably you were unloaded and so not even over 3.5T, my wife had a land cruiser which tipped the scales at 4.2 T empty and that never triggered a camera

Good to see you were observing the correct speed for your weight though

Good luck

Hi David

Was that armour plated to get a Land Cruiser to 4.2t.

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[Tootles]

Must admit that the only weight related speed signs I have seen are in Scotland. I think.

 

[DavidG58]

Hi David

Was that armour plated to get a Land Cruiser to 4.2t.

No idea, standard car, 1998 ish, didn't remove Bevs clutter first though, put it on a weigh bridge at a customers site one day, it did include me though

 

[jaykay]

My van is 3850 and never been done are you sure you've been nabbed?

I am sure they flashed. But after reading a truckers forum just now, it seems the cameras have an induction loop in the road which senses vehicles that arent cars and will flash above 40mph to catch the truckers.
It seems that It will get disregarded as it is processed.
Phew, fingers crossed!

 

[Speve]

Let's hope that's the case good luck.

 

[pappajohn]

You got flashed, presumably from behind, so it was a Gatso camera.....Truvelo dont have a visible flash, they use infra red light and are forward facing.

Gatso determine the vehicle length by the road markings and calibrate the correct speed limit for a particular vehicle.

The Gatso can differentiate between different speed limits for different vehicles. For example cars, caravans and HGV's have different speed limits and the camera will measure the vehicles length and impose the correct speed limit for each vehicle.

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[Shovelheadrob]

There are a couple of cameras like that on the A1 somewhere up towards Berwick, I have been flashed there several times as they must be set for 40mph to catch HGVs, I've never had a NIP from it. HTH

 

[Ranger]

Gatso's seem to be determined by length, Been flashed a couple of times pulling long trailers at 50 mph on single carriageways and seen caravans flashed as well.

 

[PORKSTER]

So I can't do 80 mph on the motorway in my van ? Excuse my ignorance and for hijacking thread what speeds can I go in my van its 4500kgs tag axle

 

[Tea Bag]

Hi.
As said above,it could have been set off by your height,coming down Barrowby hill from grantham towards notts there is a height check thingy on a pole to catch lorries going down in "Silent seventh" (Neutral),so fingers crossed it is a case of "Mistaken identity".
Tea Bag

 

[JockandRita]

So I can't do 80 mph on the motorway in my van ? Excuse my ignorance and for hijacking thread what speeds can I go in my van its 4500kgs tag axle

None of us can, as I am sure you already know. Lol
See the speeds which Pappajohn listed above.

Cheers,

Jock.

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[JimboT]

I have been flashed (by speed cameras) in our van never had ticket come through.
normally in a 60 zone.
Jim

 

[Techno]

I was flashed on a dual carraigeway in France and I was way under the speed limit. Then I noticed a grey BMW on my outside, camera just got it before I obscured him.

 

[hilldweller]

Gatso cameras have the capability of monitoring the return signal to detect HGV and trigger at a lower speed.