Gemini 931T MH Alarm

[JohnnyRoyal]

Good morning all
I have the above alarm on my Rapido Dreamer Van since last year when we brought the van second hand.
We are having great trouble using the alarm and setting it right. It keeps going off at random times and means we can’t lock the van at night

I have looked at the manual not any help really!

Has anybody else body got this alarm or can advise to be able to use it properly and stop it going off at random times annoying everyone on site!

Or does anybody know how I can deactivated it?

Thanks

Have a good bank holiday

John

 

[1967bowesj]

Good morning all
I have the above alarm on my Rapido Dreamer Van since last year when we brought the van second hand.
We are having great trouble using the alarm and setting it right. It keeps going off at random times and means we can’t lock the van at night

I have looked at the manual not any help really!

Has anybody else body got this alarm or can advise to be able to use it properly and stop it going off at random times annoying everyone on site!

Or does anybody know how I can deactivated it?

Thanks

Have a good bank holiday

John

If you on a site why arm the alarm?
I get it gives you comfort but if it false triggers why risk it.
What is triggering it, if its the internal sensors why not cover them with something to block them, a small box from a bulb?

Have just read the user guide, do you have the remote? It says you only need press button 3 to arm without internal sensors, without remote it looks a faff

 

[JohnnyRoyal]

I try just to lock the van with the van lock in sides per photo. But this does not work all the time at the alarm goes off when there is movement inside.

As said I could just do with just turning it completely off

 

[1967bowesj]

I try just to lock the van with the van lock in sides per photo. But this does not work all the time at the alarm goes off when there is movement inside.

As said I could just do with just turning it completely off



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The alarm is linked to the central locking, the instructions say something about open the door and arm alarm then close door but I can’t see how that would work in so much as the door would not be locked.
By using the internal switch you are fully arming the alarm.
I would cover the sensors with something, even some tin foil, then arm the alarm and try moving about in van see if they trigger.
Without getting in to the wiring, which should be well fitted as it’s a thatcham 2-1 you won’t be able to switch them off permanently, you need to disable each time you lock it.

JohnnyRoyal
Do you have the remote fob?

John

 

[Tigger-Tim]

I'm not an expert, but you could try disconnecting the OBD2 port connector (with the alarm disarmed).

 

[VXman]

Do you have the Gemini Fob?

If you alarm it using the top right button in the picture below it will alarm it without setting the internal sensors. We use it like this at night and also if we leave the motorhome with the skylights open.

 

[Sleeveless]

As others have said , de-activate the internal sensors, but for general false alarms, the alarm has an activation memory which will tell you what's causing it to go off , usually when first turning ignition on after an activation, then it will blink a code as above.

 

[Landy Andy]

Just cover the internal sensor.

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[JohnnyRoyal]

Do you have the Gemini Fob?

If you alarm it using the top right button in the picture below it will alarm it without setting the internal sensors. We use it like this at night and also if we leave the motorhome with the skylights open.

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Thanks for the advice I have used the buttons by pressing the the lock button bottom right then pressing top right. So should this work?

 

[JohnnyRoyal]

Just cover the internal sensor.

I will try and locate this in the van thanks

 

[ontheroadagain]

I think the Gemini alarm is very similar to the Moving Intelligence alarm as parts of our Moving Intelligence alarm have Gemini stamped on them.
Our internal sensors were initially too sensitive as the sun rising in the morning would sometimes trigger the alarm. There is a sensitivity setting on the alarm box but getting access to it isn’t easy as it is likely under the dash somewhere. Ours was adjusted by the dealer who had also fitted the alarm. Do you have a red flashing warning light somewhere. There is usually a small port under the light with two electronic contacts. A special key is available and the alarm can be totally disabled from there. I am not sure if your alarm is the same but it might be worth checking.

 

[ontheroadagain]

I try just to lock the van with the van lock in sides per photo. But this does not work all the time at the alarm goes off when there is movement inside.

Normally using the button on the dash will lock the doors without arming the alarm.

 

[1967bowesj]

Normally using the button on the dash will lock the doors without arming the alarm.

Not if the oem door locking was integrated into the wiring on first install, if I have read the install manual correctly.

 

[JohnnyRoyal]

It is all very confusing I have also reached out to Gemini as well to see if they can resolve it

At the moment I can’t even find the sensor in the van!

Thanks everyone for your help

John

 

[Ingwe]

When you say it goes off at random intervals, do you mean random? I ask because we have a Gemini alarm and the automatic re-arm function caught us out at first. The manual is virtually unintelligible.

What we learned is that if you disable the alarm, you need to open and close one of the front doors within 30 seconds after turning off the alarm. Otherwise, the alarm resets itself with no further action from you and the alarm will go off after 30 seconds.

The other thing to check is that the bonnet sensor switch is functioning correctly. After we had some work done on the engine which necessitated removing the bonnet, we found that the garage had reinstalled the bonnet alarm switch incorrectly with the result that the alarm would either not activate properly or go off unexpectedly. Once I’d assembled it correctly and made sure it moved up and down smoothly, no further issues.

Hope you get it sorted.

 

[JohnnyRoyal]

Thanks again for the advice.
It will go off randomly when we use the lock button on the dash.
We have not had any work on the bonnet.
In regards to opening the door part. Do you mean that I need to use the special fob with the contacts and then open after the door, after this. Thanks
John

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[Ingwe]

In regards to opening the door part. Do you mean that I need to use the special fob with the contacts and then open after the door, after this. Thanks

Turn off the alarm using the remote. On ours, you use the same button as you use to turn on the alarm. Then, open a front door and close it again. That’s it. Alarm should stay off. If you don’t open a door the alarm will reset after you’ve turned it off. Hope this is clear.

I would still check the bonnet switch is moving correctly even though you’ve not had any work done.

p.s.

 

[VXman]

Thanks for the advice I have used the buttons by pressing the the lock button bottom right then pressing top right. So should this work?

If you press the lock button that will enable sensors. You just need to press the top right ONLY. That should trigger the central locking but not the sensors. Not sure what the effect of pressing two buttons after each other is.

By the way. If you press the top right button when it is already locked it will set the siren off. A kind of panic button.

 

[Ianbenny]

I have had both my vans with a Gemini alarm on, and always used the internal lock button on the dash to lock the van on a night without any bother.

You can also turn off the internal sensors by using the 2 prongy thing on the dash receptacle first before arming, although in the manual this is for leaving the van alarmed, so you could try that before you use the internal lock button

Hope you get it sorted

 

[VXman]

When you say it goes off at random intervals, do you mean random? I ask because we have a Gemini alarm and the automatic re-arm function caught us out at first. The manual is virtually unintelligible.

What we learned is that if you disable the alarm, you need to open and close one of the front doors within 30 seconds after turning off the alarm. Otherwise, the alarm resets itself with no further action from you and the alarm will go off after 30 seconds.

The other thing to check is that the bonnet sensor switch is functioning correctly. After we had some work done on the engine which necessitated removing the bonnet, we found that the garage had reinstalled the bonnet alarm switch incorrectly with the result that the alarm would either not activate properly or go off unexpectedly. Once I’d assembled it correctly and made sure it moved up and down smoothly, no further issues.

Hope you get it sorted.

It depends on how it is set up. That will only happened if passive locking is enabled. This is not a default setting. Mine is set to default settings and doesn't auto lock. I really don't want it too.

This is the list of possible settings.

I have had both my vans with a Gemini alarm on, and always used the internal lock button on the dash to lock the van on a night without any bother.

You can also turn off the internal sensors by using the 2 prongy thing on the dash receptacle first before arming, although in the manual this is for leaving the van alarmed, so you could try that before you use the internal lock button

Hope you get it sorted

I don't think the internal lock button sets the alarm at all - just a lock.

 

[Flash10]

Do you have small touch pad with two prongs and a red lamp somewhere on the dash?

 

[1967bowesj]

I don't think the internal lock button sets the alarm at all - just a lock.

Looking at the wiring I think there’s an input from that button, not clear if it arms the alarm though, there’s also input wiring from the door motors.

 

[Flash10]

Looking at the wiring I think there’s an input from that button, not clear if it arms the alarm though, there’s also input wiring from the door motors.



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My lock button definitely didn’t arm the alarm in any way. To disarm the internal sensors you pressed the key fob and then quickly touched the small black ‘key’ onto the two pronged socket on the dash and then quickly touched red lamp flashed differently to indicate a change in the arming status. It’s in the 931T instruction manual which can be downloaded. OP needs to see if he has the small key and locate the small touch pad.

 

[1967bowesj]

My lock button definitely didn’t arm the alarm in any way. To disarm the internal sensors you pressed the key fob and then quickly touched the small black ‘key’ onto the two pronged socket on the dash and then quickly touched red lamp flashed differently to indicate a change in the arming status. It’s in the 931T instruction manual which can be downloaded. OP needs to see if he has the small key and locate the small touch pad.

Op needs to stop using the dash button and use button 3 on the remote.
Your alarm was obviously wired differently to the ops,

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[VXman]

My lock button definitely didn’t arm the alarm in any way. To disarm the internal sensors you pressed the key fob and then quickly touched the small black ‘key’ onto the two pronged socket on the dash and then quickly touched red lamp flashed differently to indicate a change in the arming status. It’s in the 931T instruction manual which can be downloaded. OP needs to see if he has the small key and locate the small touch pad.

Using the two pronged key is for resetting the alarm if you have problems with it or going into programming/set up mode.

To switch off internal sensors easily and regularly you just use the button on the Gemini remote.

 

[JohnnyRoyal]

Hello again
I think I have solved the problem, with everyone’s help.
Last night I just used the Gemini Fob. I pressed the 3 stripe button and hey presto the van was locked and the sensors were deactivated! Meaning sleep for us and the other campers in the festival we were at.

So again thanks to everyone who advised and was probably down to user error on my behalf

Happy travels