Gas bottle question? (1 Viewer)

[wizzer59]

At the moment I have two 6kg bottles in my B584 locker but it looks like I can get bigger bottles in there but what size bottles will it take? 11kg, 13kg anyone know please??

 

[scotjimland]

measure your locker..
next size up for propane is 13kg

Capacity 13kg
Height 580mm
Diameter 315mm

full spec here Broken Link Removed


If still unsure, take the van to a Calor dealer and ask to try an empty 13kg propane

 

[DavidG58]

Not sure if our Hymer has the same lockers as yours, ours has a small flap at the bottom that we can lock in a slightly different position, that just allows us to fit 1 x 13kg and a 6kg alongside. Very close to 2 x 13kg but not quite close enough

It does look like the locker door is not quite closed in that position but it is

I get very confused on sizes and weights, I was not aware of a 11kg, but if they exist 2 of them might fit, but if they are simply butane which I think weighs less in the same size container there will be no gain just less gas and possibly wrong regulators

 

[wizzer59]

Hi Jim thanks for that, Flo/gas do a 11kg propane one but TBH there isn't much difference in size to a 13kg bottle

 

[wizzer59]

Hi David yes mine has a flap as well, I will have to try one in my local garage and if it fits then the flo/gas one will as well, thank you

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[Lenny HB]

All Hymer's are designed to take 2 x 11kg German gas bottles. Depending on your locker location you may have a bit more room, it it is located inside the garage you should be able to get 2 x 13 kg bottles in. We have 2 x 13kg (26Lt) Alugas re-fillable bottles in ours.

 

[lou020]

my chieftain gas locker would fit 2 x 11kg propane or 12kg butane from flogas etc, but the calor 13kg is about 1inch too tall. its the calor shroud that makes them taller, also they are a bit wider.
i just need to get hold of a flogas type bottle as the gas for a 11kg is less than a calor 6kg

 

[DavidG58]

Hi David yes mine has a flap as well, I will have to try one in my local garage and if it fits then the flo/gas one will as well, thank you

I was a bit worried when I first tried it, the plastic toggles look quite strained, but we have done this now for 2 years, the saving in the price of gas will pay for new catches if ever needed, presuming it is still save to drive if one breaks. The straps take 99% of the strain, it is just that the bottom flap is tight up against a 15kg where there is a bit of room with 6kg/ I actually have my 13kg at a very slight angle to relieve some of the strain




edit - the problem is girth not height with the 13kg Calor

 

[wizzer59]

All Hymer's are designed to take 2 x 11kg German gas bottles. Depending on your locker location you may have a bit more room, it it is located inside the garage you should be able to get 2 x 13 kg bottles in. We have 2 x 13kg (26Lt) Alugas re-fillable bottles in ours.

Thanks for that I did wonder why its so large, the 6kg bottles do look lost in there

 

[wizzer59]

I was a bit worried when I first tried it, the plastic toggles look quite strained, but we have done this now for 2 years, the saving in the price of gas will pay for new catches if ever needed, presuming it is still save to drive if one breaks. The straps take 99% of the strain, it is just that the bottom flap is tight up against a 15kg where there is a bit of room with 6kg/ I actually have my 13kg at a very slight angle to relieve some of the strain




edit - the problem is girth not height with the 13kg Calor

Maybe if I keep a lump hammer in the locker then

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[DavidG58]

Maybe if I keep a lump hammer in the locker then

The catches are only plastic, slight over kill the hammer

The only reason for the bottom flap is to give the top flap something to lock against, they are not the most secure of doors anyway, it is more for looks than function, I suspect you will have the same size locker as us, so hopefully you can squeeze one in as well (with slight bulge!!)

 

[tonyidle]

I have two 11kg Gaslow in my B584 locker without adjusting the lower flap (which I can't do now anyway because I've replaced it with a fixed stainless part).

 

[Minxy]

Maybe if I keep a lump hammer in the locker then

You been reading how I managed to get my 11kg Gaslow bottle into my PVC's locker which is only meant to take 2 x 6kg ones by any chance ... a lump hammer came in very useful!

 

[wizzer59]

Mind you I keep on thinking about @Techno100

The catches are only plastic, slight over kill the hammer

The only reason for the bottom flap is to give the top flap something to lock against, they are not the most secure of doors anyway, it is more for looks than function, I suspect you will have the same size locker as us, so hopefully you can squeeze one in as well (with slight bulge!!)

It was the bottles that were going to get a little tap to make them fit

 

[wizzer59]

You been reading how I managed to get my 11kg Gaslow bottle into my PVC's locker which is only meant to take 2 x 6kg ones by any chance ... a lump hammer came in very useful!

Linky please

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[Minxy]

Linky please

Post #40 on the below thread:

http://www.motorhomefun.co.uk/forum/threads/gaslow-refillable.80140/page-2#post-945396

 

[Techno]

Mind you I keep on thinking about @Techno100


It was the bottles that were going to get a little tap to make them fit

Don't get it what did I miss?

 

[wizzer59]

Don't get it what did I miss?

@Techno100

Sorry Andy thought I'd deleted that, I was gonna post that I was thinking of fitting a system similar to yours, but then though it irrelevant to the post

 

[wizzer59]

Post #40 on the below thread:

http://www.motorhomefun.co.uk/forum/threads/gaslow-refillable.80140/page-2#post-945396

Thanks for that, that's exactly what I was thinking I might need to do

 

[Landy lover]

You might want to consider fitting BP Gaslite 10kg bottles - easily obtainable via Homebase or many garden centres ( Homebase have regular deals @20% off which includes gas) apart from being able to carry 20kg of gas you save a lot in weight as the bottles are fibreglass

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[wizzer59]

You might want to consider fitting BP Gaslite 10kg bottles - easily obtainable via Homebase or many garden centres ( Homebase have regular deals @20% off which includes gas) apart from being able to carry 20kg of gas you save a lot in weight as the bottles are fibreglass

Guess you have to have a special reg, and you can only exchange from????

 

[Landy lover]

Most larger caravan /camping shops stock them - its the 27mm one - same as used on some others and I believe the Spanish bottles. if you have a bulkhead mounted reg you just need the adaptor to suit. Not out of the way to refill the Gas lites either as you can see the level you are filling to.

Guess you have to have a special reg, and you can only exchange from????

 

[Jimbohorlicks]

Hi David yes mine has a flap as well, I will have to try one in my local garage and if it fits then the flo/gas one will as well, thank you

My hymer took 1 x 6KG and a 13Kg but there was a slight bow in the bottom flap -I stiffened this up with a thin metal strap behind the plastic, stuck in place with double sided tape ( there is a recess on the inside face)-just to take the bow out slightly and add a bit more strength to the flap and toprevent the plastic flap from breaking -had no issues with securing the door subsequently.
I exchanged an empty 6kg calor for a full 13kg calor at Morrisons southport, for the cost of gas only -no issues but that was some 3 years ago

 

[Emmit]

And, just to add to the choice, in France you can buy/hire an Antargaz lightweight bottle that is very similar in dimensions to the BP Lite bottle.
The difference of course is in the price of the gas.
Something to think about if you don't want to go down the refillable route and spend time in France. You could have one of each.

 

[wizzer59]

Just a little update for anyone interested, I now have two 11kg Flogas refillers that fit perfectly and they are a lot cheaper to refill than Calor

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