Ftc (1 Viewer)

[Gina M]

Hi All the experts on fuel economy and performance.
I was saw this in a magazine , has anyone tried ftc pellets and had any good results.

 

[Puddleduck]

I'd want to see real evidence before parting with £s

 

[Silver-Fox]

Mmmmmm snake oil springs to mind

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[Gina M]

It has a money back guarantee supposed to be a special mix of rare earth metal alloys and you just pop them in your tank up to 1000cc and up to 6000cc
Described as one time treatment just pop it in the tank.
Don't think I would risk it and curious if anyone has

 

[Gromett]

Absolute Hokum...

 

[Gina M]

Quite a lot on the Internet was indorsed by the late Michael Winner

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[rosalan]

Michael Winner, the famed engineer? I think he would have been better going into films.

 

[Gromett]

Quite a lot on the Internet was indorsed by the late Michael Winner

His background is in TV/Theatre I believe? Not chemistry or combustion engines.

The only claims I have seen regarding their operation is that they contain tin which they say is a catalyst.
If it is a catalyst that improves the performance of fuel. Then why don't the petrochemical companies perform this chemical reaction prior to shipping the fuel? The first one to do this would get a lead on the market. They would be shouting from the rooftops with claims such as "Used by top F1 teams"...

There is no scientific basis that I can see for their claim and there is no peer reviewed papers. Nor actual measured (quoted) figures for improvements in test vehicles.

They appear to be relying on purchaser confirmation bias.

I could go on.. But don't really want to waste time on this.

As I said before. Absolute Hokum.

 

[rosalan]

His background is in TV/Theatre I believe? Not chemistry or combustion engines.

The only claims I have seen regarding their operation is that they contain tin which they say is a catalyst.
If it is a catalyst that improves the performance of fuel. Then why don't the petrochemical companies perform this chemical reaction prior to shipping the fuel? The first one to do this would get a lead on the market. They would be shouting from the rooftops with claims such as "Used by top F1 teams"...

There is no scientific basis that I can see for their claim and there is no peer reviewed papers. Nor actual measured (quoted) figures for improvements in test vehicles.

They appear to be relying on purchaser confirmation bias.

I could go on.. But don't really want to waste time on this.

As I said before. Absolute Hokum.

Dear Mr Gromett
Your succinct and well researched observation could hardly be considered 'wasting time' as I for one lean heavily upon your regular pearls as they are cast before me.
As for 'Hokum' as defined in Wikopedia...trite, sentimental, or unrealistic situations and dialogue in a film or other work. the observations have come full circle.

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[Gina M]

It's even sold on Amazon

 

[Vanman]

It's even sold on Amazon

Along with Unicorn meat ...

 

[Baileysbus]

Useful review here .......https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=23&t=1698621&i=20

Interesting it appears as a "gassing topic"

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[The Wino]

Bovine scateroo to quote a well known American General

 

[TheTwoOfUs]

Along with Unicorn meat ...

But it's unicorn horn that improves performance

 

[Gromett]

As for 'Hokum' as defined in Wikopedia...trite, sentimental, or unrealistic situations and dialogue in a film or other work.

I use the word in the sense of nonsense.
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/hokum

out-and-out nonsense; bunkum.

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[Gina M]

Yes Bailey Bus they are on other forums BMW, Mercedes owners forum so someone must be buying them, interesting opinions on piston heads as well

 

[Larby]

I have some Magic Beans for sale..........

 

[rosalan]

Amazon?

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[Vanman]

I have some Magic Beans for sale..........

Are they big eyed beans from Venus?

 

[Baileysbus]

Yes Bailey Bus they are on other forums BMW, Mercedes owners forum so someone must be buying them, interesting opinions on piston heads as well

Yup but to be fair, most of the comments conclude on the hocus pocus side Don't think I'd want stuff rattling around in my fuel tank or worse still reacting in my fuel tank and the piston heads thread suggests they only "work" up to 2000cc engines.