Front lounge PVC - day to day living (1 Viewer)

Feb 18, 2018
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For those of you with a front lounge that makes up into double or 2 singles how do you manage if you get up at different times or if one of you needs to take the dog out at night?
Also do you find you have enough storage for tables, chairs, BBQ, awning etc etc
 
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We manage quite well. We don’t have a dog, so no need to go out in the night. But if needed, sleep on the door side to go out. Getting to the toilet it’s not a problem, the shower and loo is at the back and space either side to get up towards the back. Table is stored behind driver seat, chairs at the back of the shower near the back doors, and some under the fridge cupboard. BBQ under the bed sofa, no awning yet. There’s also the option to enter/exit the van via back door, to avoid a woosh bang via the side.
 

Minxy

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One thing to consider if planning on having 2 singles is that they won't be as wide as the 'permanent' singles in a rear bed van which we found a bit narrow anyway.
 
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It was a big problem for us which is why we sold our Murvi Morello.

I used to get up early, take the dog out and when you come back to the van there’s no where to go if Caz is having a lie in.

At least with a rear bed and front area you can sit and relax whilst someone sleeps.
 

PeterCarole29

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For those of you with a front lounge that makes up into double or 2 singles how do you manage if you get up at different times or if one of you needs to take the dog out at night?
Also do you find you have enough storage for tables, chairs, BBQ, awning etc etc
Hi This might not help if you are talking about factory built PVC but we are building ours on a extra high top and have raised the floor to the same height as the cab floor this gives use aprox 150mm of storage under the hole van access from side loading door and rear boot.
This enables storage of 2 folding chairs 2 tables . Our pop up 3 m x 3m tents still leaving room for other stuff. also access from the forward facing seating . can aslo run pipes internally as well with the insulated double floor

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Sep 17, 2017
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My parents had a 5.4m Autocruise Jazz with a front lounge that folded into a double and kitchen/bathroom across the back. They found they had to get up at the same time. They used the bathroom for storage. Cute little van though.

We've got a 6m A-class. Massive front lounge that we've had 8 people seated at. Bathroom with a separate shower cubicle. Large bed over the cab so wifey stays in bed while I make breakfast. Lots of internal storage. Not a ton of external locker space though. Careful choice of kit and I've squeezed in two folding bikes, folding chairs, table, tool kit and a BBQ... But it's rammed full. And it's 2.3m wide.
 

Bobbydaisy

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Had a front lounge with double bed in the rear (Adria Twin 600) , albeit the lounge is for living /dining , but the issue for us was the bed , as one had to climb over the other to get to the toilet at night. You can get the Adria with 2 singles which have an infill part between which gives wider singles and also a space at the bottom to get up without disturbing the other. However for us the dining layout didn’t suit us. We now have an Elddis CV20, it has 2 singles in the rear which are both long and slide out to give wide beds and still leave enough space between to get up in the night etc. Appreciate you are looking for a front bed area set up but maybe a couple of options to consider to address the issue you describe.
 
Feb 19, 2018
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For those of you with a front lounge that makes up into double or 2 singles how do you manage if you get up at different times or if one of you needs to take the dog out at night?
Also do you find you have enough storage for tables, chairs, BBQ, awning etc etc

No problem! Leave the husband/wife at home, plenty of room for the beer/wine and less arguments of where to go! Simples! :rofl:
 
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Grianan
Feb 18, 2018
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Thanks for the responses. I think you have confirmed what I was thinking. We were really looking for a more comfy lounging space than we have in the dinette in our Campscout, which is excellent in all other respects. I don’t think a front lounge would meet our needs.
We do like sitting with the whoosh bang open and looking out … I’m not sure there is a solution as I’ve not found a similar van that has a wee sofa in place of the dinette (other than the Wildax Elara which is a Sprinter so even narrower than the Ducato)
 
Sep 10, 2012
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We used to have a 6mt permanent rear traverse bed and front dinette layout.
Wife wanted more comfortable lounging area so now have 6.4mt with single rear beds/couches (or a massive double) but still standard dinette at front. Downside is the bathroom size but then it's all a compromise.
Meets most of your requirement except the longitudinal couch.
I sit in the swivelled passanger seat to gaze out of the sliding door or open the back doors and recline one side or the other if the view is in that direction.
 

Minxy

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Thanks for the responses. I think you have confirmed what I was thinking. We were really looking for a more comfy lounging space than we have in the dinette in our Campscout, which is excellent in all other respects. I don’t think a front lounge would meet our needs.
We do like sitting with the whoosh bang open and looking out … I’m not sure there is a solution as I’ve not found a similar van that has a wee sofa in place of the dinette (other than the Wildax Elara which is a Sprinter so even narrower than the Ducato)
If you remove the table and put an infill 'sofa' section on the side wall it would give you a mini L-sofa, you could then use a removable or swivel table on a pole for eating at. We had the Campscout with a lounge the same as in the left picture, and a Familyscout as in the right picture (transverse double at the rear), so whilst it would be as big as the Familyscout it would still allow you to slob out with your feet up across to the cab seat.

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Grianan
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We used to have a 6mt permanent rear traverse bed and front dinette layout.
Wife wanted more comfortable lounging area so now have 6.4mt with single rear beds/couches (or a massive double) but still standard dinette at front. Downside is the bathroom size but then it's all a compromise.
Meets most of your requirement except the longitudinal couch.
I sit in the swivelled passanger seat to gaze out of the sliding door or open the back doors and recline one side or the other if the view is in that
If you remove the table and put an infill 'sofa' section on the side wall it would give you a mini L-sofa, you could then use a removable or swivel table on a pole for eating at. We had the Campscout with a lounge the same as in the left picture, and a Familyscout as in the right picture (transverse double at the rear), so whilst it would be as big as the Familyscout it would still allow you to slob out with your feet up across to the cab seat.

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And that would give the perfect van (for us). It’s the slobbing we miss …,
 

DBK

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Thanks for the responses. I think you have confirmed what I was thinking. We were really looking for a more comfy lounging space than we have in the dinette in our Campscout, which is excellent in all other respects. I don’t think a front lounge would meet our needs.
We do like sitting with the whoosh bang open and looking out … I’m not sure there is a solution as I’ve not found a similar van that has a wee sofa in place of the dinette (other than the Wildax Elara which is a Sprinter so even narrower than the Ducato)
Our Murvi Morocco suits us but we do get up at the same time. If you make it up as two single beds this makes getting up in the middle of the night very easy and our dog sleeps on the floor in the gap. If the dog needed to go out while the beds were made up I can take him out through the rear door in the bathroom although you can't do this in the XL version. The table and BBQ live in the wardrobe. For chairs and silver screen we have a box on the rear cycle rack but you could get the taller model chairs from Helinox or one of the cheaper clones. These fold up very small.

Downside is don't expect delivery before 2024 if you wanted to buy new.
 
Feb 10, 2013
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Check out classifieds June 3rd it might give you some ideas

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Mar 11, 2014
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A compromise would be the adria compact coachbuilt range. They are narrower than other brands compacts at only 2.12m wide (I think only 7cm wider than a ducato pvc) and still have the short arm side mirrors fitted.

The adria compact dl would still give two big singles and a lounge you can slob about in better than a dinette.

You would obviously lose the big sliding door to look out of though.
 
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That's why we bought a globecar family scout l from the adria twin which was adequate apart from the lounge space. Mrs Georgia can sit with feet up and I can do the same with my feet on the drivers seat. To my knowledge there is nothing similar available except the dreamer.
 
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That's why it was our number one priority to have a rear bedroom with 2 single beds. Easy to get out to the toilet or get up at different times. I guess that's not possible in a PVC though?
 

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That's why it was our number one priority to have a rear bedroom with 2 single beds. Easy to get out to the toilet or get up at different times. I guess that's not possible in a PVC though?
Erm , yes. Couches to slob about in during the day when it’s chucking it down outside and slide out to make wide singles with space between to go to the loo at night . It’s a PVC , Elddis CV20 .That’s the toilet door on the left. 😉

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I may be wrong but, didn't I read somewhere, that IH will build a Campervan to your specification based on their models? :unsure:

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Erm , yes. Couches to slob about in during the day when it’s chucking it down outside and slide out to make wide singles with space between to go to the loo at night . It’s a PVC , Elddis CV20 .That’s the toilet door on the left. 😉

View attachment 675682OK...doable. Obviously more width on a motorhome set up gives opportunity for wider beds and/or wider gap down middle.
 

mikebeaches

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And that would give the perfect van (for us). It’s the slobbing we miss …,
I think our Rapido V68 has an almost identical layout to your Campscout.

When swivelled, we find the captain's cab seats very comfortable for relaxing, especially with the armrests and the ability to adjust the height and the amount of recline.

Fortunately for me, Sue really enjoys reading sitting-up on her bed at the back - perhaps it helps that we don't have windows in the rear doors? And when she's settled there, I'm likely to turn the cab seats to face each other and put my feet up at the front.

But I'm sure you know all that, and it doesn't really answer your question or help you. :rolleyes: :unsure: Works for us though... ;)
 
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Might be worth having a look at East Neuk Fifer. Rear lounge with single beds and the 6m van has a front lounge also.

 
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Might be worth having a look at East Neuk Fifer. Rear lounge with single beds and the 6m van has a front lounge also.

They look a nice conversion however we have met 2 people now who have had the waste tank ripped off on ferries because they are so low to the ground.
 

Bobbydaisy

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Elddis CV40 front lounge and rear lounge/ single or double bed

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Grianan
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That's why it was our number one priority to have a rear bedroom with 2 single beds. Easy to get out to the toilet or get up at different times. I guess that's not possible in a PVC though?
It’s what we currently have in Campscout - just front slobbing space that’s compromised 😂
 
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Grianan
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Erm , yes. Couches to slob about in during the day when it’s chucking it down outside and slide out to make wide singles with space between to go to the loo at night . It’s a PVC , Elddis CV20 .That’s the toilet door on the left. 😉

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It’s lovely but beds are too short in both the CV20 and the CV40 - OH is 6’3 » and sleeps fully stretched out
 
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I think our Rapido V68 has an almost identical layout to your Campscout.

When swivelled, we find the captain's cab seats very comfortable for relaxing, especially with the armrests and the ability to adjust the height and the amount of recline.

Fortunately for me, Sue really enjoys reading sitting-up on her bed at the back - perhaps it helps that we don't have windows in the rear doors? And when she's settled there, I'm likely to turn the cab seats to face each other and put my feet up at the front.

But I'm sure you know all that, and it doesn't really answer your question or help you. :rolleyes: :unsure: Works for us though... ;)
Do you have lockers over head end of bed? We do and I can just get my head under when sitting up in bed - but it touches and wouldn’t do it for too long.
 

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Do you have lockers over head end of bed? We do and I can just get my head under when sitting up in bed - but it touches and wouldn’t do it for too long.
No overhead lockers at the end of the beds, only along the sides. So comfy to sit up in bed.

Initially, I was concerned about not having windows in the rear doors, but in fact it's worked out well not having them.

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