Discussion in 'Motorhome Maps' started by scotjimland, Jan 10, 2011.
Have been a member for some years and in my view the best value for money there is.Had some super camping with them,even though a few wooly heads caused by to much indulgance
Agree - especially the wooly heads. Even though the Motorhome was on the same vineyard we have had some interesting "walks" back home after some enthusiastic tasting
If there were Aires in Britain, on the face of it, you might still be prosecuted for being "drunk in charge of a motor vehicle."
This is not the same as driving under the influence. You risk 'only' 3 months in prison, not 6, disqualification and 10 points on your licence, though special circumstances may still apply.
It's certainly not automatic. I know of one fairly recent case where a man was in his car, on the road outside his house, with the ignition on, but the motor not running. He was five times over the limit. He said he was quite clear in his mind he would not drive into his house. (No-one seems to have asked how he'd got to where he was parked - possibly, there could have been an empty bottle in the car!) He was found not guilty at trial and awarded costs, as the court believed his evidence.
The leading case (R v. Watkins, 1989) established the test is whether 1) the owner or a recent driver was still in charge or had he relinquished charge of the vehicle, or 2) was anyone else ( i.e. not owner or recent driver) in charge?
Once you get that far, it's up to the person 'in charge' to prove he was not likely to drive. If you're in the drivers seat, with the key in your hand, it's tricky but not impossible. If the MH key is on a locked safe, and the family is sitting round a table, clearly no.
I don't think you understand what France Passion is about.
All FP sites are off the public highway and are mainly in vineyard's and farms,not on the road.
As far as am aware drink drive laws dont apply to private land as yet,otherwise most campsite bars would have to close down.
Provided the public do not have access... that is the crucial part.. a camp site is not open to general members of the public..
On the other hand, a pub car park is on private land but is open to the public so the drink drive laws apply.
Not sure about French law and whether the same rules apply or not to a FP site
Actually, my frozen fledgling, I do know what France Passion is, and we're fans, but Haggis' map was about French Aires, so I thought a few Funsters might be helped if the risks of treating British laybys like French Aires were pointed out.
Anyway, for general info, the word "layby" is a genuine mistake. Correctly, a LIE-BAY was where a slow train was parked alongside the main line so a faster train could overtake it. When the horseless carriages appeared, the term was taken over - but incorrectly!
Not a lot of people know that - except, now, the Funsters.
And here's me thinking the original post was regarding France Passion not laybys and pub car parks....just shows even I can be wrong sometimes
just shows even I can be wrong sometimes
Me too... when in hole, stop digging!
Par for the course Dave ..
when last did you see a thread on Fun stay on topic for more than a few posts ? ..
that's what makes it very difficult when searching .. topics are all over the show oh:
Ta Jim....but hay ho ya can but try
yeah.. I used to try ..
but, twas fightin a loosing battle... if ye canna beat 'em.. join 'em
New to the forum and surfing the threads and found this (old) one interesting!
France Passion (https://www.france-passion.com/en/) allows for an annual subscription of Euros 35. For that, you get maps and a book providing all the farms in France that, on presentation of your card, allows you to stay overnight. You park on private land so, as long as you do not move the motorhome after imbibing, you will not fall foul of drink driving laws in France!
Since owning our motorhome, we have stayed on a number of farms listed in their book and never been disappointed. They can sometimes be remote from “civilization” but well worth the effort. Our first farm was in Dordogne and we spent 30 minutes driving along very small roads in the countryside before arriving. We parked on a headland overlooking the river and cliff-hanging villages on the other side: great for the picnic!
Although the farms allow you to stay overnight free of charge (and often provide limited servicing facilities), you usually spend a bit of money buying the farm produce etc. However, they offer a very enjoyable and friendly experience different form aires/camp sites/wild parking. They also give you a different perspective on France and we would recommend to anyone to try.
another one from the past..
* please note.. *
the Google map of FP locations has been 'broken' since Google updated the maps.. it is incomplete... only one page.. and as it is now 6 years old.. so well out of date ..
for these reasons, I have deleted it
Not really the same thing but we've stayed on a couple of Agriturismo sites in Italy on this trip. I'm not sure if there are listed anywhere or it is just a generic name but they had wine and olive oil and on one goats' cheese - which was yummy. Downside, unlike France Passion, they were not free, quite the opposite in fact!
Oh dear, taken the thread off topic again! But I wonder what happened to Imprint? 1090 posts and only 11 likes.
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Thanks for that, I didn't mean to be rude to him but it probably reads that way. But it interesting when an old thread resurfaces how many contributors on it are often now lapsed.
yes.. it does make you think and wonder where they are or what they are doing..
After leaving Twin Lakes we intend to stay at our first France Passion sites en-route to Coquelles.
Do not expect much of a saving as one of them specialises in homemade ice cream and my co-driver could probably eat her own weight even though we will only stay for 1 night.
On the last occasion we were in Blaye on the Gironde, the Aire was closed as they were doing remedial work in that area of the town something to do with the ferry I think. Anyway, I digress.
We called in to the Tourist Office in the Citadel and spoke to the assistant there. She produced a leaflet advertising that various vineyards in the area had opened their doors as Aires. Invariably there was no charge and it seemed to me to be a mini France Passion in the making. We were only passing through and therefore couldn't take advantage of the offer but should we be in the vicinity, we will give it a looking in to.
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