For information: Peugeot Boxer Recall

[hja]

Our van is a 2025 Peugot Boxer. Been notified of a recall - "may have softwear that does not detect turn signal lamp failures". Its a softwear update. Ours is booked in for the update in September.

 

[hja]

Oh what a saga!! We are now in week three!
Van went in for the recall on the morning of Monday 14th, so just over two weeks ago. "its just a software download, take about an hour". Mid afternoon, phone call from the Peugeot garage - "download fine and successful. BUT the mileometer is now flashing! we’ve been in touch with Peugeot technical who say this is known possible side effect of the download! They will send a fix." Roll on to the Friday afternoon, "weve tried everything Peugeot have suggested, nothing has worked, will contact them again." Monday of this week we went up to the garage. Still nothing has worked. The issue has been escalated from Peugeot Romania to Peugeot France! The garage has carried out a number of these recall fixes both before and since our van and all have been fine - however they have all been standard vans and not motorhomes. The garage is of the view that it is something to do with the conversion, possibly the radio (its just an ordinary radio/CD player, we didnt have the fancy one installed). I asked couldnt they just disconnect the radio and see what happens. Apparently not quite that simple.
We did bring the van home with us on Monday because we need some stuff out of it and I was part way through giving it a good clean inside. We'd left it there on the basis that if it was in their way they were more likely to pester Peugeot.
What slightly concerns us now is that if it is the conversion that they will push it back to Possle.

 

[Jimuck]

Sorry to hear about your issues.
In my experience, flashing mileage means something is not communicating properly with the main computer and usually this is solved by a proxi alignment.
Surely the peugeot boys would know this.

However,
Maybe they have tried that !!

 

[Sleeveless]

As above, worth asking them if they have attempted proxi alignment, flashing odometer is an indicator that a module is no longer communicating with the main body control module (BCM). The radio unit is the most common culprit but it can be any one of several modules , Instrument cluster, airbag etc. Flashing the software on the body control module for the recall could well have caused this .

 

[hja]

As above, worth asking them if they have attempted proxi alignment, flashing odometer is an indicator that a module is no longer communicating with the main body control module (BCM). The radio unit is the most common culprit but it can be any one of several modules , Instrument cluster, airbag etc. Flashing the software on the body control module for the recall could well have caused this .

Thanks. I will suggest that next time we speak to them.

 

[Stonemags76]

Our milo meter has been flashing since we had the airbag unit issue, despite having it aligned. We have solved this by sticking some black tape over it! We just took the tape off for the recent mot!

 

[Deneb]

if it originally had a factory radio it is an integral part of the network between the instrument cluster and body computer ECUs. Aftermarket radios have their own ways of working around that, but I assume that Peugeot diagnostic equipment expects the original configuration. The flashing odometer basically means that something that is expected to be on the network is either misconfigured or not responding.

You might need to get the original radio refitted or just put up with the flashing odometer.

 

[hja]

if it originally had a factory radio it is an integral part of the network between the instrument cluster and body computer ECUs. Aftermarket radios have their own ways of working around that, but I assume that Peugeot diagnostic equipment expects the original configuration. The flashing odometer basically means that something that is expected to be on the network is either misconfigured or not responding.

You might need to get the original radio refitted or just put up with the flashing odometer.

I dont think there was a radio. When we were sorting the purchase (we bought it new) there was some sort of package, as there always is, that included a number of things plus some posh radio/sat nav thing. We just opted for the bits of the package we wanted plus a very ordinary radio/cd player with no sat nav.

 

[Deneb]

I dont think there was a radio. When we were sorting the purchase (we bought it new) there was some sort of package, as there always is, that included a number of things plus some posh radio/sat nav thing. We just opted for the bits of the package we wanted plus a very ordinary radio/cd player with no sat nav.

Ah, OK. I'm not as conversant with current models, but with the pre 2021 X290 and the X250 the vans could be ordered with no radio and no built in wiring to facilitate fitting one. A radio could still be fitted, but installation would be completely independent of the vehicle network and not integrated with it. The second option was radio prep, where no radio was fitted but a certain amount of wiring was in place to facilitate installation, with for example connections for reverse gear notification (for reversing video activation etc.) and other signals. The third option was to have a factory fit radio. Those radios were connected through the vehicle network, and those with screens such as the VP2 and more recent touchscreen units, took over various menu functions and clock settings etc. that were originally available in the dashboard menu buttons, but were moved into the radio menus instead, which is where the integration of the radio with the body controller and the instrument cluster comes into play.

With MultiEcuScan for Fiats, you can see what "nodes" (ECUs and control units) are configured on the vehicle, and you can add or remove units if you make changes to the system. You then have to run a proxi-align, which writes the new configuration to the body computer as the master network node, and copies it to other units which act as slave nodes.

As far as I'm aware, the Fiat Examiner/Witech software used by dealers is not able to do that, probably because Fiat don't want them altering the specification of the vehicles in such an adhoc way, but can only run a proxi align to refresh the network table if for instance, a faulty original network unit has been removed and a new one fitted, or a specific manufacturer approved upgrade has been carried out.

I don't know what dealer software exists for the Peugeot Boxer, but assume it would be similar as the vans are basically identical apart from in some cases variations in engines and gearboxes. I don't think that MultiEcuScan, or at least my version of the software, can connect to other Sevel vans, but I believe another Fiat compatible diagnostic program called AlfOBD can to an extent.

But the big issue there is that your 2025 model may well have a secure gateway, meaning that the network is secured against modification by Peugeot, and only the authorised dealer diagnostic software or some aftermarket diagnostics intended for commercial use and licensed by Peugeot, can make alterations to the network.

Sorry, I know this is not much help and has probably gone over your head to some extent, but the point I was making was that if your van originally had a factory radio, and it had been taken out to fit an aftermarket unit, that could well be the cause of your issue. It may not be the case from what you are saying, so I've probably gone the long way round to basically say "just ignore me".