FLT's - Why? (1 Viewer)

[Southdowners]

Not if you then drive back to the middle of nowhere once you are filled up .................. after all motorhomes are designed to be driven.

They are indeed and we've covered thousands of miles. However, I don't think you have any concept of being out in the middle of nowhere if you think you can drive, fill up then go back again.

 

[BreweryDave]

I’m gonna fit a desalination plant so I can stay at the beach........

 

[Ronny]

I’m gonna fit a desalination plant so I can stay at the beach........

We’ll have to meet up I’m thinking of towing a JCB and installing heat pumps in unsuspecting farmers fields.

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[jumartoo]

Well, we've just had three free nights. Totally different locations.

Travelling from northern Spain back to home in Totana. Pulled up, explored, ate, slept and drove off the next morning. No bother to anyone and no-one bothered us!!!

 

[iandsm]

Well, we've just had three free nights. Totally different locations.

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Travelling from northern Spain back to home in Totana. Pulled up, explored, ate, slept and drove off the next morning. No bother to anyone and no-one bothered us!!!

You certainly are an independent motorhomes, Not n FLT

 

[Jasz]

How can you not know why it's taken personally?

You've quoted a long message from Tam telling you exactly why folk get annoyed at being called FLT's.

Yes ok. I would like to make the point that although I asked a question, I personally have never criticised anyone on any thread for their choice of where they stay or how they tour.
With hindsight being a wonderful thing, I would have set the question completely differently.

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[138go]

I think people who want to do a pub stop and not spend any money are a touch FLT.

Mrs QFour

 

[peterc10]

Yes ok. I would like to make the point that although I asked a question, I personally have never criticised anyone on any thread for their choice of where they stay or how they tour.
With hindsight being a wonderful thing, I would have set the question completely differently.

Don't beat yourself up about it. It seems to me that some of the arguments on either side went OTT. And a few people on here can start an argument in an empty room.

I suspect your experiences with Aires was not typical. With many of them you can sit outside and enjoy yourselves, and we often do. However extending an awning all the way is often difficult, but the same can be said of many of the smaller pitches in popular campsites in France and Spain. But, as can be seen from the many photos, stopping in "unofficial" places in most of Europe is easy and very rewarding.

But at the end of the day it is simply down to choice. There is no need for anybody to be forced to justify why they use their motorhome in the way that they do.

 

[Chockswahay]

Yes ok. I would like to make the point that although I asked a question, I personally have never criticised anyone on any thread for their choice of where they stay or how they tour.
With hindsight being a wonderful thing, I would have set the question completely differently.

Hey Jasz,
I just re read your original opening post. Whilst it was certainly not a criticism I would suggest that your list was rather inflammatory and accusational. Your ‘choices’ did not paint a positive picture but in fact we’re a little derogatory. I am sure this was not intentional but is likely to be perceived this way.

Anyway, it has been an interesting thread but hopefully it will burn out now and we can all move on.

Cheers

Grahame

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[hilldweller]

And a few people on here can start an argument in an empty room..

Love it.

 

[peterc10]

Love it.

Stole it from Sandra @Armytwowheels

 

[BreweryDave]

And a few people on here can start an argument in an empty room.

Oh no we don’t

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[Minxy]

Did I hear someone speaking in the empty room next door????

 

[scotjimland]

Why ?

https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/f...875/illegal-parking-by-campers-at-oban-beach/

A sign at Ganavan, a popular public beach in Oban, clearly states “No overnight parking” however the rule is regularly being flouted with motorhomes parking up for the evening and leaving first thing in the morning.

Councillor McCuish said: “Campervans are coming in at night, parking up and getting water and electricity for free at the newly refurbished £25,000 public toilets.

 

[Northernraider]

Why ?

https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/f...875/illegal-parking-by-campers-at-oban-beach/

Another stupid sensationalist story

They arrive late at night ( when no one is using car park )
They leave early morning ( before anyone using carpark )

Yet they are blocking the view of the sea ( in the feckin dark )

I'll almost bet the toilets are locked at night
And I don't know many carparks with electricity

Another councillor talking bollocks

And another campsite mentioned losing trade .....same old same old.

I'm surprised there's no mention of waste being dumped but give it time.

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[Clive]

But at the end of the day it is simply down to choice.

And we know your choice is to be a FLT

 

[deleted-member02]

Why ?

https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/f...875/illegal-parking-by-campers-at-oban-beach/

Article says locals pay for parking - council website says otherwise, free parking for all.
https://www.argyll-bute.gov.uk/car-parks-oban-lorn-and-isles

I can't see the problem - leave nothing but footprints take nothing but photographs.
The council could always introduce a fee for overnight parking and recoup there costs, I'm sure some would happily pay (myself included).

What are the alternatives? Arrive at the c&cc site (but not too late) and pay up to £40+ for the privilege. Wait two hours for the gates to open for a not so early departure. Other campsites marginally cheaper.
A quick google also suggest that most (if not all) are now closed for the winter season.

As to using the toilet facilities, it's not just motorhomers taking advantage.
Folk washing beach/water equipment, cyclists and dog walkers filling bottles/bowls, all types taking electricity for a quick phone charge -where do you draw the line?

 

[peterc10]

And we know your choice is to be a FLT

Aaaaaah but .............. at least I buy my own breakfasts .......

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[Clive]

Aaaaaah but .............. at least I buy my own breakfasts .......

You're only jealous that I got away with robbing @BreweryDave

 

[BreweryDave]

You're only jealous that I got away with robbing @BreweryDave

You think?
I never forget.

 

[peterc10]

You think?
I never forget.

Clive, I would be more worried about Jackie than Dave ..................... just saying you should pay up before Dave sends her in

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[irnbru]

Another stupid sensationalist story

They arrive late at night ( when no one is using car park )
They leave early morning ( before anyone using carpark )

Yet they are blocking the view of the sea ( in the feckin dark )

I'll almost bet the toilets are locked at night
And I don't know many carparks with electricity

Another councillor talking bollocks

And another campsite mentioned losing trade .....same old same old.

I'm surprised there's no mention of waste being dumped but give it time.

Oh well yep I’m a guilty one here but can tell you when we parked there at Hogmanay 3 yrs ago the electric wasn’t on. I know cos I tried it. Like you say Tam it’s not as if your blocking a view or taking up valuable spaces.

 

[Northernraider]

Oh well yep I’m a guilty one here but can tell you when we parked there at Hogmanay 3 yrs ago the electric wasn’t on. I know cos I tried it. Like you say Tam it’s not as if your blocking a view or taking up valuable spaces.

Yep as usual it's the campsite owners

I've had the pleasure ( not ) of meeting that pair of charmers who run to roseview caravan park ...my sister and mum stayed on that site a couple of years ago when we were heading to mull. I had went in to visit them and had the warden cone chap at the door of my sister's MH 3 times in the space of an hour asking when I was leaving.

Claimed I was using his facilities by sitting in my sister's MH for an hour having a coffee and a chat to my mum.

Later in the evening when I left and was parked up in a carpark a mile up the road I had him and his charming wife swearing at me and accusing me of trying to make use of their facilities buy not staying on the site.
Totally unfounded of course but they made out I was visiting my sister and mum so I could use the shower block etc.
I left them a lovely review on TripAdvisor as did my sister as she had paid over £30 for a night there and got nothing but hassle from the guy because I was sat in her van for an hour.
That's the kind of prison warden attitude that makes me dislike sites... they always act like paranoid idiots.

 

[Alanben]

A free loading Tosser is someone who finds a nice place were it is free and legal to stop, but takes the pee and to the detriment of everyone, stays as long as he/she can. Why do you think there is anyone here who can answer your questions?

According to the dictionary
A freeloader is a person who takes advantage of others generosity without giving anything in return.

Tosser is a foolish, despicable or obnoxious person.

I don't believe the above describes any funsters on this forum, and if used, it's a light hearted piss take. I say use your motorhome the way it suits you. there is no right or wrong

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[Teuchter]

RIGHT THEN! LISTEN UP EVERYONE!

I wonder if we could settle on a nicer and more accurate label for FLT’s?

We don’t particularly like campsites (or the price that often goes with them) but we do like to travel,we respect other people’s views and we don’t ‘freeload’ ........ we pay our way as required.

In NZ the type of motorhoming we do is labelled ‘Freedom Camping’ ......... much nicer I think and devoid of the bias that FLT places upon us.

Just a thought ............

FLC - Freedom Loving Camper

CLC - Campsite Loving Camper

ALC - Aires Loving Camper

CPC - Car Park Camper - c'mon can't use "loving" - surely no one actually LOVES car parks - do they??

Sorted!!!

 

[klaatu]

I'm an MLC - Motorhome Loving Camper. I camp where it suits me on each particular occasion, it's my motorhome that's the important part, wherever it happens to be

 

[BusyBuilder]

We went over west coast at the weekend and stayed at Knockan Crag, we stopped off in Ullapool to do some shopping. We noticed most cafes and camp site are now closed till Spring.

Are we freeloaders ?? I don't think so, as for the next 4 or 5 months what are we supposed to do ? put our van in storage ?

Aye, right, we'll use it and stay anywhere we can up here in the Highlands, and when we've stopped for a night you would be hard pressed to know we'd been there.

Unlike some of the places I've seen whilst out on my bike for a Sunday ride. Litter and rubbish bags, shit and tissue paper strewn around, I could post pictures but what good would that do ?

Whilst out we only saw 2 motorhomes over the Saturday/Sunday we covered about 140 miles, 1 a Dutch couple stayed on same carpark at Knockan Crag that we stopped overnight at. They stayed on sites if they found one open but mainly free camped, but that's the Highlands for you.

It'll be quiet now for a few months till it all kicks off again in Spring.

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