First pictures of 2022 Ducato/Boxer/Relay-what to expect?

Mar 6, 2008
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When the mk.3 was announced I thought it was horrible.The heallights looked like they were an after thought,you know "and now for the mk.3...Voice from the back where are the headlights? Oh! bloody hell who forgot the the head lights? Er, just chuck 'em at the top,that'll do!
 
Jan 18, 2013
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When the mk.3 was announced I thought it was horrible.The heallights looked like they were an after thought,you know "and now for the mk.3...Voice from the back where are the headlights? Oh! bloody hell who forgot the the head lights? Er, just chuck 'em at the top,that'll do!
it’s designed to be driven and still be legal after a light bump, front lights are out the way as are the rear lights halfway up the rear

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Jan 22, 2020
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First Fiat I’ve ever owned.....sitting in the drivers seat I can’t see the front.

I’ve driven and ridden many vehicles, from mopeds to abnormal loads, some were better than others. As long as it does the job in a good way I’m happy.

I just love driving stuff.........my favourite was my Scammell Crusader. :giggle:

However, my love of driving was tested by my Dad’s old Lada.:oops:
 
Jan 28, 2008
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7 years campers before that
to be honest they are a box for transpoting goods around all they do is vary the front a bit to catch those that like to have the latest model going back a bit but anglia van doors were identical to escort ones and transits from day one to mk fives the same, possibly even later i lost track at the mk 5
 
Sep 16, 2010
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First Fiat I’ve ever owned.....sitting in the drivers seat I can’t see the front.

I’ve driven and ridden many vehicles, from mopeds to abnormal loads, some were better than others. As long as it does the job in a good way I’m happy.

I just love driving stuff.........my favourite was my Scammell Crusader. :giggle:

However, my love of driving was tested by my Dad’s old Lada.:oops:
Just saw the word Scammel. !!!
I drove a Scammel 6 wheel drive recovery vehicle back in the 60’s in Germany, Ferrari type gated gear selector, bloody good memories.
You must be old ex- mob !!
Mitch.

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Jan 22, 2020
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Just saw the word Scammel. !!!
I drove a Scammel 6 wheel drive recovery vehicle back in the 60’s in Germany, Ferrari type gated gear selector, bloody good memories.
You must be old ex- mob !!
Mitch.
Abnormal loads throughout the UK.......then to Germany (2nd time) and put me in charge of Armoured / Tracked Vehicles........:oops:


Look at my username. ;) (y)
 
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Abnormal loads throughout the UK.......then to Germany (2nd time) and put me in charge of Armoured / Tracked Vehicles........:oops:


Look at my username. ;) (y)
I was dreamy REME for 25 years.
Fixed everything from Centurions in the 60’s to 500watt genies. Loved it all.
Glad I did the time and now enjoying the pension.

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Oct 7, 2013
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Re EU requirements.

Our 2019 Boxer has TPS which is a PITA.

Preset in the factory at around 80psi it constantly throws warnings when tyres are run at Continental’s recommended pressures v axle weights. It is not adjustable!

Running at our recommended pressures we have the TPMS warning light illuminated on the panel at all times. Such lights are an MOT failure.

We carry our axle weight readout and Continental’s recommended tyre pressure chart with us in case we are pulled in by the DVSA for a check. I don’t know if they would accept it though.
 
Sep 7, 2014
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I do hope they have updated the dashboard as it is dreadful, look at the new mercs coming through now, and then look at the fiat, no comparison
 
Jan 22, 2020
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I do hope they have updated the dashboard as it is dreadful, look at the new mercs coming through now, and then look at the fiat, no comparison

You’re absolutely right, but look at the difference in cost between the two makes.

How difficult is it to use off the self car technology (as in car dashboard layouts) and put them into van? I can only think most vans are workhorses, and need to be more robust than a cars? Observation / question rather than opinion. :unsure: (y)

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Jan 18, 2013
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All I can see in the new sprinter dashboard is Jonny 5

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Jun 25, 2013
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Combat engineer tractor , a fine piece of kit ! The armoured machine I remember is cat D6 in NI , rather noisy also the Allison chamlers MWT !

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Aug 26, 2008
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You’re absolutely right, but look at the difference in cost between the two makes.

How difficult is it to use off the self car technology (as in car dashboard layouts) and put them into van? I can only think most vans are workhorses, and need to be more robust than a cars? Observation / question rather than opinion. :unsure: (y)

Even the Fiat Panda has better dials than the Ducato. Recent Fiat cars also get a digital speedo readout. How hard can it be to give us a decent dash in the next generation Ducato.

I hope it doesn't copy the Sprinter. I still prefer to have rotary controls to twiddle for the heater and aircon. Also those Merc turbine style air vents - ugh. Very boy racer.

I would like a 9" screen with Android Auto / Carplay as standard instead of a cheap radio.

The tyre pressure warning system needs to be capable of re-calibration by the driver without having to plug into a port. Dealer-only is a big drawback.
 
Mar 23, 2018
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Re EU requirements.

Our 2019 Boxer has TPS which is a PITA.

Preset in the factory at around 80psi it constantly throws warnings when tyres are run at Continental’s recommended pressures v axle weights. It is not adjustable!

Running at our recommended pressures we have the TPMS warning light illuminated on the panel at all times. Such lights are an MOT failure.

We carry our axle weight readout and Continental’s recommended tyre pressure chart with us in case we are pulled in by the DVSA for a check. I don’t know if they would accept it though.
Our Westfalia has the same system and driving it at recommended pressures is like driving an 'upholstered roler skate'.
Purchased a copy of Multiecuscan http://www.multiecuscan.net/ (runs on an old Windows laptop). This can re program the sensors to activate at lower pressures.

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Sep 7, 2014
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You’re absolutely right, but look at the difference in cost between the two makes.

How difficult is it to use off the self car technology (as in car dashboard layouts) and put them into van? I can only think most vans are workhorses, and need to be more robust than a cars? Observation / question rather than opinion. :unsure: (y)
It would be so nice to read the speedo easily, we have a 66 plate sonic, one of the dash vents has broken, the plastics used are very cheap feeling, and it all feels thrown together. It would also be good to move the steering wheel in all directions rather than just in and out

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Oct 7, 2013
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Our Westfalia has the same system and driving it at recommended pressures is like driving an 'upholstered roler skate'.
Purchased a copy of Multiecuscan http://www.multiecuscan.net/ (runs on an old Windows laptop). This can re program the sensors to activate at lower pressures.
Is your Westfalen on a 2019 Boxer?

Both our local Peugeot Professional Dealer and our very helpful local back street garage have tried, and failed, to reset it. They both said that the programme is locked.

Just to check I asked a second Peugeot Professional workshop and they also said it is not possible to change the setting.
 
Oct 11, 2019
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I do hope they have updated the dashboard as it is dreadful, look at the new mercs coming through now, and then look at the fiat, no comparison

There is a comparison. And it can be done by piles of pennies. You spend more on a merc and get a nicer dash. I'd rather have an ugly dash and a big pile of pennies left to go on holiday.

And the Fiat is wider and squarer along its height in the back than a merc, meaning it's both easier to build a conversion in and better for diagonal beds at the back.

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