Fire Safety Stick - Any Good?

[Kups]

Just had our annual motorhome service and been reminded by the dealer that our 2Kg Foam extinguisher is well out of date. Like 4 years!

I've seen the Fire Safety Stick has good reviews and much longer shelf life.

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They're also at the NEC show so probably discounting their products.

Has anyone got one of these and would they recommend buying one?

 

[Richard n Ann]

£90 I'll use my own stick at that price

 

[Riverbankannie]

An older thread here where some people have them . I was going to get one at Malvern but the only stand there doing fire safety didn’t sell them as they are not certified . I do have 2 powder extinguishers and a blanket.

Fire Extinguishers

Just for info, I noticed that Aldi has their twice annual stock of Fire Extinguishers in store. These are dry powder with pressure needle indicator. If you already have an old dry powder, check that the needle is within the green and if it’s really old, consider replacing it as some can clog up...

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[ontheroadagain]

£90 I'll use my own stick at that price

But if they have a shelf life of 15 years that is only £6 per year.

 

[Bobbydaisy]

Agree with Richard and Ann , at that price think I will get mine ( I have 2 , 1 in front cab and one in the back of hab area) replaced from Aldi or B&Q when it’s needed. Although ; how much value do you put on the potential cost of losing it all if a fire does occur Looks like a good product, compact and easy to use but at that cost will stick with the type I have which are equally effective.

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[Kups]

Agree with Richard and Ann , at that price think I will get mine ( I have 2 , 1 in front cab and one in the back of hab area) replaced from Aldi or B&Q when it’s needed. Although ; how much value do you put on the potential cost of losing it all if a fire does occur Looks like a good product, compact and easy to use but at that cost will stick with the type I have which are equally effective.

Thanks for the comments. Yes over 15 years it's very cheap. Also much easier to position close to the hab door (recommended location) in our Adria. At 100 gramme weight the clip supplied should be easy to stick with 3M stickies. My foam extinguisher is behind the driver's seat, not an ideal location in an emergency.

 

[Bobbydaisy]

Thanks for the comments. Yes over 15 years it's very cheap. Also much easier to position close to the hab door (recommended location) in our Adria. At 100 gramme weight the clip supplied should be easy to stick with 3M stickies. My foam extinguisher is behind the driver's seat, not an ideal location in an emergency.

My Adria Twin had it at the hab door at the bottom side of the sink unit , easy to grab. Have fitted one extinguisher in my Elddis CV20 at the drivers door for engine fire/ other vehicles help and other one at the sink unit in the hab area which is easy to grab for anything inside. With a 5 year life on the extinguisher it works out for me at £3.30 per year per extinguisher, hence £6.60 so the stick is on a par with my set up.

 

[dna]

I bought and installed an extinguisher just behind the front passenger seat, next to the woosh-bang door when I bought the PVC. I was a bit surprised when putting some clothes into the wardrobe to find the "official" extinguisher is mounted in there - almost as useful as the smoke detector being on the end of the wall locker covered by the back door. Do the van regulations only state that certain safety features must be present rather than present in a relevant/useful location?

 

[Sapper520]

Nice and neat, and hopefully it’ll stay exactly where it is for 15 years……unused.

 

[Bobbydaisy]

I bought and installed an extinguisher just behind the front passenger seat, next to the woosh-bang door when I bought the PVC. I was a bit surprised when putting some clothes into the wardrobe to find the "official" extinguisher is mounted in there - almost as useful as the smoke detector being on the end of the wall locker covered by the back door. Do the van regulations only state that certain safety features must be present rather than present in a relevant/useful location?

I don’t think it’s an actual requirement to provide a fire extinguisher??? , maybe wrong but I’m sure there was a thread about this before, think it’s just the choice of the manufacturer and or dealership you buy the van from to supply one or not.

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[Kups]

I don’t think it’s an actual requirement to provide a fire extinguisher??? , maybe wrong but I’m sure there was a thread about this before, think it’s just the choice of the manufacturer and or dealership you buy the van from to supply one or not.

Thanks. Helpful to see the size. Our mh layout with the central hab door has one or maybe two suitable storage locations in that area.

 

[Two on Tour]

I had previously had two Firetool JE 50's, but after the five year life expired I bought two of the Fire Safety Sticks.
We keep one in the kitchen area and one in my driver's door pocket as the two most likely areas to have a fire are in the kitchen and under the bonnet.

Still keep the two Firetool JE 50's on the van as I imagine that they will still work past their life expired date.

 

[royandsharont]

Nice and neat, and hopefully it’ll stay exactly where it is for 15 years……unused.
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I’ve fitted one here after seeing Sapper520 photo previously on some thread when I was researching. Didn’t notice the 2 point fixing and strap, did you get that, I’m using the single Terry clip it came with but it could be improved upon

 

[Sapper520]

I’ve fitted one here after seeing Sapper520 photo previously on some thread when I was researching. Didn’t notice the 2 point fixing and strap, did you get that, I’m using the single Terry clip it came with but it could be improved upon

I paid extra for a proper holder off a well know auction website. Wasn’t cheap, £12, but sits better with no movement.

 

[Two on Tour]

I’ve fitted one here after seeing Sapper520 photo previously on some thread when I was researching. Didn’t notice the 2 point fixing and strap, did you get that, I’m using the single Terry clip it came with but it could be improved upon

I paid extra for a proper holder off a well know auction website. Wasn’t cheap, £12, but sits better with no movement.

Bought ours from a boat chandler and they came complete with a plastic terry clip for mounting.

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[Guffy60]

Have used one whilst navigating on a rally, much better than traditional extinguisher, put the under bonnet fire out easily. Also aware of others who have said had much better experience with them, we have them in the motorhome and Classic car.

 

[Sapper520]

Bought ours from a boat chandler and they came complete with a plastic terry clip for mounting.

Yes, ours came with a clip, but I purchased a full cradle for it.

Gone up in price.

Race Safety Accessories Fire Safety Stick Mounting Bracket

These brackets from Race Safety Accessories are designed specifically for mounting a Fire Safety Stick to a flat panel or a roll cage. The brackets feature spring clips which hold the stick into place and there are also options of a quick release extra securing strap which is ideal for vehicles...

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[Ridgeway]

Had never heard of these before this thread…

There goes another 90 quid, don’t you just love MHF

 

[OldCodger]

Still keep the two Firetool JE 50's on the van as I imagine that they will still work past their life expired date.

When we cleared out Dads garage we found three extinguishers that were several years passed their use by date. We let them off to see what happened. A dry powder one barely functioned (over 10 years old) the other two were 3and 5 years out of date sort of worked. The dry powder one had a pressure gauge on it which was almost at zero

 

[Sapper520]

Had never heard of these before this thread…

There goes another 90 quid, don’t you just love MHF

Yep. People on here thank forum members for saving them money.

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[Kups]

Yep. People on here thank forum members for saving them money.

Or saving your motorhome

 

[Tonks]

I had previously had two Firetool JE 50's, but after the five year life expired I bought two of the Fire Safety Sticks.
We keep one in the kitchen area and one in my driver's door pocket as the two most likely areas to have a fire are in the kitchen and under the bonnet.

Still keep the two Firetool JE 50's on the van as I imagine that they will still work past their life expired date.

I also have two Firetool JE50s and they’re now past their expiry dates. Planning to get a Fire Stick at the NEC if the price is good, or elsewhere if not.
These type of extinguisher are very efficient and also create far less mess than powder ones. Though admittedly powder is still preferable to ash…

 

[Ingwe]

I bought one after being told our powder extinguisher was out of date. I watched a demo (not by the sellers) and was suitably impressed. Although more expensive than a conventional extinguisher, given the much longer ‘shelf-life’ and the fact that it does much less damage than other extinguishers, I believe it will be more economic in the end. Hopefully, never have to report on its efficacy, personally.

 

[Tombola]

I like the look of it, how does it work is it just pouring out Halon?

and there are smaller cheaper ones (see video in the link)
Amazon product ASIN B08XWJGYSF
EDIT----- found the below

Fire Safety Stick is composed of stable, solid minerals; it does not contain gas and is not pressurised. The aerosol-like jet is only produced when the charger is struck with its base. The produced aerosol jet is free of thrust and is essentially an inert salt that emits gas already present in the atmosphere.

Here’s the chemistry behind it​

This process allows the stick to extinguish all types of fires through saturation, while its slow bio-degradation in the environment, further prevents the likelihood of subsequent fires.
The extinguishing process involves two different reactions: one is physical and the other, chemical. The physical reaction relates to potassium’s tendency to oxidise rapidly in air. When in contact with air, alkaline salts consume great quantities of oxygen, thus depriving fires of oxygen. Then the chemical reaction is created through the stable link between potassium particles and the fire’s combustion particles.
Through the two reactions, a quick oxidation process takes place, immediately transforming the jet from a solid state into a gaseous state freeing the potassium particles. These atoms are able to intercept and interrupt any other free particles produced by the fire’s natural chain reaction combustion process.
Potassium has strong inhibitor qualities due to its weak ionization energies. The extinguishing agent being used is composed of Potassium Nitrate, organic oxidizer, and plasticizer resin.
When Potassium Nitrate (KNO3) discharges from the extinguisher it vaporizes in the environment followed by the condensation of its extinguishing substance. When it reacts (inside the body of the extinguisher) it breaks down and the aerosol that is formed is made up primarily of free radicals of Potassium K+, of Nitrogen N (an inert gas), and water vapour.
The aerosol that comes out of the unit reacts with the fire. Potassium radicals (K+) capture the Oxygen of the combustion thereby extinguishing it.
At the end of the extinguishing process the following is discharged to the atmosphere:
As a solid: particles of Potassium (that have reacted with the Oxygen of the fire) having a size between 3-4 microns. These particles are invisible at sight and heavier than air. They disperse in the atmosphere and tend to deposit on the ground in no appreciable amounts.
As a gas: As Nitrogen; an inert gas already present in the air we breathe at more or less 78%.
As water vapour (and lastly) extremely minimal toxic by-products that are a result of the combustion process.

 

[simbadog]

Yes, they are very good, we have them in our competion cars as well.

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[Brains]

For £90 quid, you can buy two of these
Firetool JE 50

I have one in the drivers door and one by the hab door.

At some point I'll buy two more for the passenger door and one for the other side of the hab door.
Given the speed a fire can take off in a motorhome you have seconds to save it.

 

[Bobbydaisy]

£63.53 for 50 second one , £89.02 for 100 second one. What are you using in the van ? 50 or 100?

Fire Safety Stick Hand Held Fire Extinguisher

Fire Safety Stick Hand Held Fire Extinguisher FIRE SAFETY STICK EXTINGUISHER A must for every Competition Vehicle, Support vehicle, Roadcar, Home, Boat, Caravan & Motorhome SPECIFICATION Emission Time - 50 or 100 seconds depending on the option c

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[Two on Tour]

For £90 quid, you can buy two of these
Firetool JE 50

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I have one in the drivers door and one by the hab door.

At some point I'll buy two more for the passenger door and one for the other side of the hab door.
Given the speed a fire can take off in a motorhome you have seconds to save it.

5 year life for the JE 50, .............. 15 year life for the Fire Safety Stick, does not take to much working out as to which one is better value.

 

[OldCodger]

I like the look of it, how does it work is it just pouring out Halon?

and there are smaller cheaper ones (see video in the link)
Amazon product ASIN B08XWJGYSF
EDIT----- found the below

Fire Safety Stick is composed of stable, solid minerals; it does not contain gas and is not pressurised. The aerosol-like jet is only produced when the charger is struck with its base. The produced aerosol jet is free of thrust and is essentially an inert salt that emits gas already present in the atmosphere.

Here’s the chemistry behind it​

This process allows the stick to extinguish all types of fires through saturation, while its slow bio-degradation in the environment, further prevents the likelihood of subsequent fires.
The extinguishing process involves two different reactions: one is physical and the other, chemical. The physical reaction relates to potassium’s tendency to oxidise rapidly in air. When in contact with air, alkaline salts consume great quantities of oxygen, thus depriving fires of oxygen. Then the chemical reaction is created through the stable link between potassium particles and the fire’s combustion particles.
Through the two reactions, a quick oxidation process takes place, immediately transforming the jet from a solid state into a gaseous state freeing the potassium particles. These atoms are able to intercept and interrupt any other free particles produced by the fire’s natural chain reaction combustion process.
Potassium has strong inhibitor qualities due to its weak ionization energies. The extinguishing agent being used is composed of Potassium Nitrate, organic oxidizer, and plasticizer resin.
When Potassium Nitrate (KNO3) discharges from the extinguisher it vaporizes in the environment followed by the condensation of its extinguishing substance. When it reacts (inside the body of the extinguisher) it breaks down and the aerosol that is formed is made up primarily of free radicals of Potassium K+, of Nitrogen N (an inert gas), and water vapour.
The aerosol that comes out of the unit reacts with the fire. Potassium radicals (K+) capture the Oxygen of the combustion thereby extinguishing it.
At the end of the extinguishing process the following is discharged to the atmosphere:
As a solid: particles of Potassium (that have reacted with the Oxygen of the fire) having a size between 3-4 microns. These particles are invisible at sight and heavier than air. They disperse in the atmosphere and tend to deposit on the ground in no appreciable amounts.
As a gas: As Nitrogen; an inert gas already present in the air we breathe at more or less 78%.
As water vapour (and lastly) extremely minimal toxic by-products that are a result of the combustion process.

I had to laugh when I followed that link to
I Amazon. I can save money buy subscribing and buying one every two months….

Firstly, there is no saving!
Secondly, I sincerely hope I don’t need one that often
Thirdly, The fires need to be exactly two months apart…

 

[Richard J]

£63.53 for 50 second one , £89.02 for 100 second one. What are you using in the van ? 50 or 100?

Fire Safety Stick Hand Held Fire Extinguisher

Fire Safety Stick Hand Held Fire Extinguisher FIRE SAFETY STICK EXTINGUISHER A must for every Competition Vehicle, Support vehicle, Roadcar, Home, Boat, Caravan & Motorhome SPECIFICATION Emission Time - 50 or 100 seconds depending on the option c

www.murraymotorsport.com

Sadly this price does not include VAT, import duty or DHL handling charges