Fiat Ducato Synchromesh

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  1. DanielFord

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    Today it was confirmed that the synchro ring on 3rd gear needs to be replaced. My van is a 2011, and I think this is a very small amount of time for such a failure, however reading around, it seems that the Fiat Ducato seems quite susceptible to this particular failure.
    So my question is, how many people out there have had gearbox issues? And, is this perhaps something that Fiat should be addressing via a recall?
     
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    Relative of mine has a 2007 Ducato, syncro on 2nd gear failed at 3,500 miles, he contacted fiat, they were not interested,
    He contacted finance co and was given a sum toward the repairs.

    Eric
     
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    Should have mentioned, the dealer I bought it from has come to an arrangement with me to complete the repairs, so I am happy with that. But it does seem that the Ducato gearbox is very weak!
     
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    Ours is a 2008 130, having had a gearbox rebuild by Fiat at 5k we have since done another 40k with no problems. In fact the gearbox I find particularly smooth though I would like slightly different gearing on 1st and 2nd.
     
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    Glad I have the 2.2 which is the Ford engine. Been ok so far 14000 mils.

    steve & ann. ----------- teensvan
     
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    I have a 2012 Ducato with around 17k miles and no problem so far (y)
     
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    I suspect ours will be fine after it has been rebuilt, it is annoying nonetheless!
     
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    The box was rebuilt because of the reverse gear, I haven't heard of any weakness or premature failure on either Fiat, Peugeot or Citroën vans, all with the same build.
     
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    14 k,,,should be like new.Our old Trannies used to do 300000 with no gearbox or engine problems...BUSBY.
     
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    Is it advisable to change the gear box oil?
     
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    I did that already, made no difference. I had hoped that it would cure the problem, but it didn't.
     
  12. Brian_K

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    Well, if we are having a competition, do I win?

    2015 Peugeot Boxer, 104 miles on the clock, probably needs a complete new gearbox (still under investigation).

    Absolutely no oil in the gearbox at all, makes you wonder about Peugeot PDI procedures :worried:

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    Really I meant before I have any trouble - as part of a service
     
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    If it was mine & it actually had none in it then there wouldn't even be a discussion. I would not accept anything less than a complete new gearbox.
    Unbelievable that it can actually happen.:(
     
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    I've got a 2011 2.3 Fiat, reverse is getting difficult to engage when cold, and 2nd, 3rd & 4th get baulky when hot, so your post is quite worrying! I think chances of Fiat doing a recall are nil, sadly!!
     
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    1996 Fiat Hymer just usual 5th gear failure, :LOL:
     
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    If Reverse is noisy when trying to engage it & other gears are quiet but baulky it's the clutch that isn't clearing. If that's the case it's worth sorting the clutch quickly before it causes syncro problems in the gearbox.
     
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    Agreed. Just had word from the Peugeot dealer (who have been fantastic and kept me informed all the way - Richard Hardie, Ashington) and a new gearbox is going to be fitted next week.

    That, along with a £700 bill from me for the hire of a vehicle to go to France last week, has made it an expensive couple of pints of oil for Peugeot.

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    Tony, thanks for your reply. Reverse isn't noisy, it just doesn't want to go in when cold, goes in fine when hot. 2nd, 3rd and 4th are the opposite, fine when cold, baulky when hot!
     
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    There is synchromesh on some reverse gears too these days.
    The clutch adjustment is still a valid line of investigation.
     
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