Extra security in elddis autoquest 100

[FanHope]

Hi,
I have been searching 'security', 'lock' before starting a new thread here but can't find anything appart from the Elefant lock which I am not sure works in the van I just bought. If there is please let me know if not, may I pick your brains on the best security adds on?

For the windows I have looked into Lock m out. I have also heard of security films (for glass window in the cab too) and window alarms. Any thoughts?

Habitation door Elefant lock for inside (when I am in) and Fiamma lock for outside (when I leave the van).

For the cab door I was thinking of
Fiamma barre.

Also, what are your thoughts for trackers and cctv?

Thank you

 

[Sue and Rick]

Disklok. Good visual deterrent.
Windows are plastic so easy to rip out. Sorry for that but it’s true.

 

[FanHope]

Disklok. Good visual deterrent.
Windows are plastic so easy to rip out. Sorry for that but it’s true.

Of course you are totally right!! A big yellow one as well might help!

 

[Stealaway]

Aside from barring all the windows it's almost impossible to keep the buggers out. Concentrate on stopping them stealing the entire van and like your car avoid leaving anything of value inside.

 

[Sapper520]

Growler Alarm and Steering lock.

Do your windows have catches that these will fit? Better than nothing.

Deadlocks on our doors as well…….

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[Guigsy]

There's lots of layers to security:
-conspicuous. Don't park where you'd be seen by criminals
-temptation. Close blinds to prevent crims peaking in.
-attractive. Make your van seem more effort and risk less than the one next to it. Security stickers, visual deterrents like flashing LEDs. Maybe don't make it the blingiest van in the row that makes it look more valuable.
-risk. Park where there's lots of people about that'll care or lots of cameras (yes, this conflicts with the first one)
-entry. A thief looking to snatch your iPad and wallet won't care about damaging the window. Someone looking to take the van will try to avoid it.
-hassle. Alarms and things like security locks slow them down or increase the risk of exposure.
-reward. Avoid leaving high value items in the van. Or at least hide them really well... which doesn't help if the whole van goes walkies.
-recovery. Trackers and security markings.
-insurance. Vehicle and contents. For when the horse has bolted and made it over the border.

 

[Two on Tour]

Fiamma lock for outside (when I leave the van).
For the cab door I was thinking of
Fiamma barre.

The downside of fitting either of those and use them, then you are telling a would-be thief that your van is not occupied.

I fitted a Fiamma Safe Door frame lock but I leave it in the unlocked position so a would-be thief is unsure if our van is occupied or not.
To secure our hab door I fitted a HeoSafe 1958 lock that you can lock from both inside and outside your MH.

Heo safe security model 1958 for the entrance door of motorhome or caravan

Eurotete caravaning offers the 1958 Heo safe security lock for the motorhome or caravan entrance door in STOCK for immediate delivery.

www.eurotete.co.uk

 

[Dorwyn]

The downside of fitting either of those and use them, then you are telling a would-be thief that your van is not occupied.

I fitted a Fiamma Safe Door frame lock but I leave it in the unlocked position so a would-be thief is unsure if our van is occupied or not.
To secure our hab door I fitted a HeoSafe 1958 lock that you can lock from both inside and outside your MH.

Heo safe security model 1958 for the entrance door of motorhome or caravan

Eurotete caravaning offers the 1958 Heo safe security lock for the motorhome or caravan entrance door in STOCK for immediate delivery.

www.eurotete.co.uk

I think you can overdo the security, all a villian needs to do is stick a wrecking bar under the plastic windows and they're in. Alarms don't worry them, trackers go out the window. They're one step ahead, if not two steps. An example, I fitted a nifty clutch and steering wheel lock and slept safely for a few nights. Went to remove it next time, and couldn't without marking the steering wheel cover. I know, I thought, lower the steering wheel. Oh, no! Any thief could have done that all the while it was parked! Doh!

 

[Two on Tour]

I think you can overdo the security, all a villian needs to do is stick a wrecking bar under the plastic windows and they're in. Alarms don't worry them, trackers go out the window. They're one step ahead, if not two steps. An example, I fitted a nifty clutch and steering wheel lock and slept safely for a few nights. Went to remove it next time, and couldn't without marking the steering wheel cover. I know, I thought, lower the steering wheel. Oh, no! Any thief could have done that all the while it was parked! Doh!

I work as a CCTV and security alarm engineer for several years, so I know only too well the power of using visible security as a deterrent, plus I have a normal tracker which can be sacrificial, but they will not detect or find our main tracker which is an Asset tracker that only switches on for less than half a second every 3 hours to send out its position and the switches off again so undetectable while not on.

As you have already had a van stolen, I would have thought that van security would have been high on your list to save losing another one.

 

[FanHope]

There's lots of layers to security:
-conspicuous. Don't park where you'd be seen by criminals
-temptation. Close blinds to prevent crims peaking in.
-attractive. Make your van seem more effort and risk less than the one next to it. Security stickers, visual deterrents like flashing LEDs. Maybe don't make it the blingiest van in the row that makes it look more valuable.
-risk. Park where there's lots of people about that'll care or lots of cameras (yes, this conflicts with the first one)
-entry. A thief looking to snatch your iPad and wallet won't care about damaging the window. Someone looking to take the van will try to avoid it.
-hassle. Alarms and things like security locks slow them down or increase the risk of exposure.
-reward. Avoid leaving high value items in the van. Or at least hide them really well... which doesn't help if the whole van goes walkies.
-recovery. Trackers and security markings.
-insurance. Vehicle and contents. For when the horse has bolted and made it over the border.

Super helpful thank you!

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[Dorwyn]

I work as a CCTV and security alarm engineer for several years, so I know only too well the power of using visible security as a deterrent, plus I have a normal tracker which can be sacrificial, but they will not detect or find our main tracker which is an Asset tracker that only switches on for less than half a second every 3 hours to send out its position and the switches off again so undetectable while not on.

As you have already had a van stolen, I would have thought that van security would have been high on your list to save losing another one.

Well, I have upped the security, and am presently looking at backing up the newly installed tracker with a SIM based Itracker. I'm looking for a permanent 12v live that's fairly well hidden so I can double it up, even if it's only sacrificial. Any ideas? Will there be one on the hab PU? I can't go straight back to the hab battery, I tried that on the stolen one, had problems with it, thought I'll fix that when I get back. The felons struck first! But I'd taken out the said device that night.

 

[Sapper520]

I work as a CCTV and security alarm engineer for several years, so I know only too well the power of using visible security as a deterrent, plus I have a normal tracker which can be sacrificial, but they will not detect or find our main tracker which is an Asset tracker that only switches on for less than half a second every 3 hours to send out its position and the switches off again so undetectable while not on.

As you have already had a van stolen, I would have thought that van security would have been high on your list to save losing another one.

Yep, High visible security, with your covert stuff in tandem.

 

[Sapper520]

I think you can overdo the security, all a villian needs to do is stick a wrecking bar under the plastic windows and they're in. Alarms don't worry them, trackers go out the window. They're one step ahead, if not two steps. An example, I fitted a nifty clutch and steering wheel lock and slept safely for a few nights. Went to remove it next time, and couldn't without marking the steering wheel cover. I know, I thought, lower the steering wheel. Oh, no! Any thief could have done that all the while it was parked! Doh!

You can never overdo security. I’ve seen comments on here saying people are paranoid and over think security…..nope….you can live a life victim free of crime, and that’s great. But criminals are out there just waiting, and those people have just been lucky not to have been a victim.

I don’t live my life fearing crime, I just try to avoid being a victim.

 

[Guigsy]

You can never overdo security. I’ve seen comments on here saying people are paranoid and over think security…..nope….you can live a life victim free of crime, and that’s great. But criminals are out there just waiting, and those people have just been lucky not to have been a victim.

I don’t live my life fearing crime, I just try to avoid being a victim.

I disagree. There's a point where you become inconvenienced or even enjoyment limited by too much security. And you become paranoid. I think you need to be aware and informed, but there's a balance to be had. Or you'd never leave the house.

 

[Sapper520]

I disagree. There's a point where you become inconvenienced or even enjoyment limited by too much security. And you become paranoid. I think you need to be aware and informed, but there's a balance to be had. Or you'd never leave the house.

Think that’s what I’m saying.

Turned up to a burglary and the victim thought I was out of order saying you should lock doors and windows whilst you’re out.

She thought I should catch the criminal before they broke into her house.

I’m not paranoid, just know what the baddies look out for.

Hardest part of my job seemed to be advising people on crime prevention……regularly I got, ‘Why should I do that, it’s inconvenient’.

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[Dorwyn]

I disagree. There's a point where you become inconvenienced or even enjoyment limited by too much security. And you become paranoid. I think you need to be aware and informed, but there's a balance to be had. Or you'd never leave the house.

That's really what I was getting at. You do all these things, these scroats have seen it all, found their way around it. You/we are relative novices, doing our best, blundering about, they've seen it all before, solved it and moved on. Throwing things at it might put some off, but if the thieves really want what's yours, the can do it. Our bedroom is right next to the drive. They took it, we slept through it.

 

[Bobbydaisy]

Clutch claw and Patriot motorcycle disc lock to lock drivers seat rotated backwards , plus tracker and alarm.

 

[Sapper520]

Clutch claw and Patriot motorcycle disc lock to lock drivers seat rotated backwards , plus tracker and alarm.

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And a ferocious looking Guard Bug…….

 

[poppycamper]

Of course you are totally right!! A big yellow one as well might help!

We have an old "Big Yellow Disclok" but for some strange reason the are now grey.... never understood why !

 

[Bobbydaisy]

And a ferocious looking Guard Bug…….

Aye, an intruder I hadn’t noticed, probably hiding in there somewhere