European driving advice?? (1 Viewer)

gazza280

Free Member
Sep 26, 2012
97
355
Worthing
Funster No
23,047
MH
Coachbuilt
Exp
Since 2012
Hello Funsters

Funny how things just pop into your mind??
Driving to London on Tuesday I saw incidents where cars had come off the road after crashes and I noticed that they were both left hand drive cars and this got me thinking, when I get my van chances are it will be right hand drive. Did the fact that both vehicles were left hand drive somehow contribute to the fact that they were both wrapped round trees, and I'm asking the seasoned European drivers out there.
I am planning to buy my van in January (if the end of the world doesn't happen in December) and take off in the long pursuit of happiness driving across France so it makes sense to ask!
Ok I understand that you have to take more care when driving on the right in Europe but what difficulties has anyone come across driving on, what is in effect, the wrong side of the road?


Thanks in advance
Gary
 

ukbill

LIFE MEMBER
Nov 3, 2011
5,501
5,274
Pinoso
Funster No
18,740
MH
4 berth low profile
Exp
starting on saturday 10/3/2012
none maybe the crashes was more down to the drivers than to the vehicle but also could be the english drivers on our road being less forgiving than in europe
 
May 8, 2011
3,851
48,342
God's county. Helmsley, North Yorkshire.
Funster No
16,317
MH
IH Tio 630 RL
Exp
Since April 1846 but have always camped.
I actually prefer driving in France in my RHD motorhome. The only bit I find a bit difficult is pulling out of a slip road onto the main highway as I have a bit of a blind spot. Luckily the misses is sat,on the good side so she keeps us safe!

Subscribers  do not see these advertisements

 

Heyupluv

Free Member
Oct 7, 2008
3,862
1,593
France,
Funster No
4,322
MH
A Class
Exp
touring many years..42+
Hello Funsters

Funny how things just pop into your mind??
Driving to London on Tuesday I saw incidents where cars had come off the road after crashes and I noticed that they were both left hand drive cars and this got me thinking, when I get my van chances are it will be right hand drive. Did the fact that both vehicles were left hand drive somehow contribute to the fact that they were both wrapped round trees, and I'm asking the seasoned European drivers out there.
I am planning to buy my van in January (if the end of the world doesn't happen in December) and take off in the long pursuit of happiness driving across France so it makes sense to ask!
Ok I understand that you have to take more care when driving on the right in Europe but what difficulties has anyone come across driving on, what is in effect, the wrong side of the road?



Thanks in advance
Gary


Gary....I live in France and I have lived in France for 9 years now....I still drive my right hand drive peoples carrier Citroen...NOT A PROBLEM AT ALL...I also have a 7.4m "A" class Motor home which I do 25,000 to 30,000 a year in touring France mostly also other European countries..so I am constantly switching from right hand drive to left hand drive while I am in France...I also drive my left hand drive Motor home in the UK as well as my right hand drive Citroen...to be honest I don't even notice, I do it automatically ...It is NOT a problem.

What I will say to you ..IF you intend to do most of you touring in other European countries other than the UK...maybe it would be better to get a Left hand drive....don't forget at round-a-bouts and junctions you look the opposite way... left hand drive look to your left...right hand drive look to your right for on coming traffic. before you pull out...also you must STOP at STOP junctions in France..wait a couple of seconds make sure all is clear before setting off......or you will end up with a on the spot 90 euro fine..
Also in many towns and other places there is still the "Priorité à Droite" priority to the right in force although it does seem to be getting fewer and far between....you have to give way in some places to the traffic entering the main road from the right onto the road you are on.. from what may look like a minor road ..

If you are a bit unsure about looking right and left... put something on your dashboard to remind you...and also the conversion of speeds from MPH to KM.....and just take it steady at first....You will be fine use your co-pilot just look down the road before you overtake on a single track two way road...and at junctions



You will be fine:thumb:


Mel
 

Billy23

Free Member
Feb 10, 2012
1,610
2,984
On a planet...far, ....far away.
Funster No
19,772
MH
C Class
Exp
On and off 1995
No problem with a left hand drive in the UK either, all you have to do in the UK is keep to the kerb and of course dont overtake if it aint safe to do so (but that bit is the same Left or right hand drive).

I drive LHD in the UK and its a piece of cake, cannot see that is any different in Europe with RHD, just drive with care and if you don't think its safe, then chances are it isn't.

After all yur in a MH! :thumb:
 

lesleyjean

Free Member
Jun 21, 2008
1,748
2,392
Funster No
2,989
MH
A class
I feel the same way as Nirvanauk.
I prefer to drive RHD in France and Spain. So much better than driving in the UK::bigsmile:
The roads are brilliant. After arriving my brain seems to automatically switch to driving on the right hand side and because I am in a familiar RHD vehicle, I feel comfortable.
I have never had a problem and even if I bought a new van I would buy RHD.
Soooo easy.
Go for whatever you feel comfy with.
For me RHD every time::bigsmile:
Good luck and happy travels

Subscribers  do not see these advertisements

 

motorhomer

Free Member
May 17, 2008
680
418
South Shropshire
Funster No
2,695
MH
Van Conversion
Exp
since 2005 (but 30 years caravanning)
My van does far more miles on the "wrong" side of the road than in the UK, it is RHD and I have never had any real problems, in fact sometimes its easier as it is easier to position your van close to the edge of the road when that is the side you are driving on. Its also easier than a RHD car would be as you sit higher and have better visibility.

I am far more relaxed driving in most countries in Europe than on the UK's over congested roads! By far the worst part of any trip overseas for me is the drive from home to Dover - 250 miles of 3 lane traffic hell around Birmingham and then the M25. Once off the boat in Calais it is a different world.

Just occasionally if you approach a junction at an angle it can be difficult to see what's coming from the left, but usually SHMBO is there and helps.
 
Jan 28, 2008
10,111
18,359
Dovercourt, Harwich, UK
Funster No
1,353
MH
Renalt burstner
Exp
7 years campers before that
only problem i have is reading the speedo in kilometers so i set the sat nav into km mode and whatch that to cheek my speed if i go 5km over it barks at me anyway
 

novawight

Free Member
May 14, 2010
627
232
Hayling Island
Funster No
11,585
MH
hi top,
Exp
on and off 50 years
at 75 last year, ist trip with campervan in France,went on my own made one foo faa, when sat nav said take 2nd exit on roundabout, and ended up in Supermarket :Smile:............Del

Subscribers  do not see these advertisements

 

yorkshirepudding

Free Member
Nov 7, 2009
1,220
910
Pudsey/Leeds
Funster No
9,220
MH
Thinking of tenting again
Exp
September '09
One piece of advice. When leaving the port on arrival in France follow another vehicle which is travelling at a speed comfortable for you, until you become acclimatized. It won't take long.
 
Apr 27, 2008
11,838
14,062
Eastbourne East Sussex
Funster No
2,327
MH
Hymer low profile
Exp
Since 1972
My last MH was LHD and was no trouble in UK, present one is RHD and no problem on the continent. Blind spots can rarely be a bit of a problem, but the passenger can help.
Driving in the UK is far more of a problem than the continent due to congested roads and impatient bad tempered drivers.
 

Heyupluv

Free Member
Oct 7, 2008
3,862
1,593
France,
Funster No
4,322
MH
A Class
Exp
touring many years..42+
at 75 last year, ist trip with campervan in France,went on my own made one foo faa, when sat nav said take 2nd exit on roundabout, and ended up in Supermarket :Smile:............Del

Good for you Novawight:thumb::thumb:

Subscribers  do not see these advertisements

 

Onderweg

Funster
Jul 17, 2008
508
240
Vlissingen, Holland
Funster No
3,336
MH
C Class
Exp
As of April 2008
Hi Gary

We live in The Netherlands and we went to England in 2009 for the first time.
Driving at the "wrong" side of the road took me about 5 minutes to get aquainted to.
The only thing is that you have to stay focussed.

I found out there is something else which is far more dangerous: cross a street while walking !!!
You are used to be focussed while driving, but you (at least I) are not that much focussed while walking.
Had luck though because my dog stopped while i wanted to cross looking in the wrong direction, if not i would have been hit by a car :Eeek:.

Made it a habit to stop about 1 meter from the curb, look around and than cross the street

Have a good time and enjoy it
 

Theonlysue

LIFE MEMBER
Sep 14, 2009
6,104
7,383
Essex
Funster No
8,456
MH
As Executive 50th an
Exp
Not long enough!
European driving

I found driving on the right easier to adjust to than going back to the left in the UK.
I tend to just sit behind lorries who are travelling at my speed and drive defensively:)
It won't be anywhere near as bad as you imagine, and if your sat nav tries to send you down an unsuitable road, i would ignore it:Doh:

Enjoy!:Cool:
 

Chris

LIFE MEMBER
May 5, 2010
21,042
277,714
Funster No
11,412
MH
None
Exp
10 years
I have all sorts of problems when I hire a LHD car.

I constantly reach the wrong way for the gear stick and handbrake.Also I always reverse looking over my left shoulder and I can't seem to look over my right shoulder the same way:Doh:

For those reasons I am far happier driving my own RHD car.

Never driven a LHD motorhome but I anticipate I would have the same problems::bigsmile:

Subscribers  do not see these advertisements

 
Aug 29, 2010
845
1,238
Nuneaton. Only when I have to.
Funster No
13,456
MH
Hymer Exsis t564
Exp
Since Sept 2010
I have all sorts of problems when I hire a LHD car.

I constantly reach the wrong way for the gear stick and handbrake.Also I always reverse looking over my left shoulder and I can't seem to look over my right shoulder the same way:Doh:

For those reasons I am far happier driving my own RHD car.

Never driven a LHD motorhome but I anticipate I would have the same problems::bigsmile:

Snap. I have mostly driven my own car or MH in Europe over the past 30 years and whenever I have had to hire a LHD I have persistently scraped my knuckles on the door going left for the gearstick! Just cannot get my brain to re-groove. I'd rather drive a familiar vehicle and adjust to the other side of the road, which seems no effort to me. I agree with other comments about finding it useful to be able to clearly see and follow the edge of the road as many French minor roads or villages could be a challenge in a wider vehicle. As for passenger side blind spots, of course there is SWMBO but also very useful is the Milenco blind spot mirror I have fitted which increases the field of view considerably. Some slip roads are still a problem but I can also see out of the side hab window on most occasions if the junction is particularly acute - just remember to drive with the net curtains open. ::bigsmile:::bigsmile:::bigsmile:::bigsmile:::bigsmile:
 

jennyp19

Free Member
Sep 2, 2009
75
33
Sunny Scunny
Funster No
8,278
MH
A Class
Exp
about 10 yrs
When we were in Poland last year we got held up as there had been a particularly bad accident. We later found that it was a Polish driver who had been living in the uk - he had driven on the wrong side of the road in a LHD vehicle.

Subscribers  do not see these advertisements

 

Ridgeway

LIFE MEMBER
Mar 10, 2012
3,650
6,134
Lausanne
Funster No
20,102
MH
NiBi Arto 85E
Exp
Since 2012
Stick a post-it note on the speedo as a reminder, it works pretty well.

Night time can be more tricky as the references of other vehicles are less evident.

Other wise it's just about getting used to it.
 
Feb 1, 2011
209
146
Redcar
Funster No
15,161
MH
Hymer C. Class
Exp
26 yrs
coldstreamer

A very wise driver told me many years ago, "You are much safer driving a L/H Van in a country you know.....Than a R/H Van in a country you don't know.

After 26 yrs of happy motoring all over the Continent.. I'm sure he was speaking the truth.
 

jollyrodger

LIFE MEMBER
Oct 1, 2012
6,282
26,419
Devon/Cornwall
Funster No
23,107
MH
'Obby
Exp
Since 1968'ish
Polish Driver

When we were in Poland last year we got held up as there had been a particularly bad accident. We later found that it was a Polish driver who had been living in the uk - he had driven on the wrong side of the road in a LHD vehicle.

First let me say your brave driving in poland :Eeek:
If you`r down to plymouth at any time keep out of the way of private hire taxi`s (laxifast) mostley polish and always on the wrong side of the road :whatthe:..down yer me dear

Subscribers  do not see these advertisements

 
Nov 1, 2011
35
41
Bury St Edmunds
Funster No
18,708
MH
A Class Pilote
Exp
since August 2012
We're heading off to France and Spain in January, so I thought I would practice driving on the right through town last week.

I don't know how the French manage it - I thought it was bloody dangerous!

Ifor
BTW I was joking
 

sedge

Funster
Jul 7, 2009
5,502
13,081
Nr Jct 3 M6
Funster No
7,396
MH
C class
Exp
Aug 09 to date 9,000 miles!
Husband Mk 1 once did that somewhere on the outskirts of Toledo c. 1980 - dead straight road, could see for miles and the only 2 vehicles on it were our car and our friends'. We'd been going along it a few minutes when he swapped sides.

After checking fore, aft and side to side to see if I could spot any apparent reason I said Errr, excuse me - what are you doing dear? Answer - Practising for when we get home of course, in case! Swerves back onto right hand carriageway .....

He was perfectly correct, it was a v. boring road though !

:Doh:
 

grumps147

LIFE MEMBER
Jun 6, 2010
1,840
2,447
St.Helens
Funster No
11,938
MH
Between
Exp
MH 12 yrs -Tent/Caravan 49 years
I have all sorts of problems when I hire a LHD car.

I constantly reach the wrong way for the gear stick and handbrake.Also I always reverse looking over my left shoulder and I can't seem to look over my right shoulder the same way:Doh:

For those reasons I am far happier driving my own RHD car.

Never driven a LHD motorhome but I anticipate I would have the same problems::bigsmile:

And the other one with lhd car hire, now all laugh together...

Parking up at a supermarket and on return sitting in the front passenger seat looking for the steering wheel and pedals.....

Dohhhhhh.

Subscribers  do not see these advertisements

 
Jan 28, 2008
10,111
18,359
Dovercourt, Harwich, UK
Funster No
1,353
MH
Renalt burstner
Exp
7 years campers before that
ive found the most dangerous time is when you stop briefly to look at a view or get something from a shop and then pull away on the wrong side roundabouts and dual carraigeways the street furniture tend to guide you the right way its in towns you have to think
 

micky drip

Free Member
Jul 4, 2012
191
121
mid wales
Funster No
21,793
MH
c class
Exp
5 years
I`m planning a solo trip sur le continent in the spring. (SWMBO is off to Tenerife with ladies darts team)
Any tips on using toll boothes, these can be difficult even with a co-pilot, is there a charge card or token system enabling drive through?
 

peyrilles

Free Member
Nov 13, 2012
5
7
France
Funster No
23,675
MH
A class
Exp
1980
Hi
Tolls can be a problem in France because you have one high slot (for lorries) and one low (for cars) neither is the right hieght for motorhomes. If I can't reach I just get out and take the ticket ignoring the french horns.
You can use a european bank card (you put the ticket in the slot on the left and the bank card on the right ( make sure you have the ticket the right way round) arrow at the front and on top) lastly watch out for the booth marked with an (A) as these are for cars with an annual subscrition and you won't get through with a motorcaravan.
The busy routes are like a rugby scrum in rush hour so watch out for the vehicle cutting accross the lanes.
:Eeek:
Peyrilles

Subscribers  do not see these advertisements

 

Onderweg

Funster
Jul 17, 2008
508
240
Vlissingen, Holland
Funster No
3,336
MH
C Class
Exp
As of April 2008
Quote
slots are not at the right height for motorhomes
Unquote

Many will have a BBQ with them when on holiday. Just take the BBQ pliers out of the garage and place it nearby the drivingseat. Very useful to get the ticket without any problem :thumb:

Paul and Ineke
 

Billy23

Free Member
Feb 10, 2012
1,610
2,984
On a planet...far, ....far away.
Funster No
19,772
MH
C Class
Exp
On and off 1995
Quote
slots are not at the right height for motorhomes
Unquote

Many will have a BBQ with them when on holiday. Just take the BBQ pliers out of the garage and place it nearby the drivingseat. Very useful to get the ticket without any problem :thumb:

Paul and Ineke


I soooo like that, I would never have thought of that :thumb:
 

Join us or log in to post a reply.

To join in you must be a member of MotorhomeFun

Join MotorhomeFun

Join us, it quick and easy!

Log in

Already a member? Log in here.

Latest journal entries

Funsters who are viewing this thread

Back
Top