Euro 5+ or 6 fiat

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  1. Spidey

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    We are thinking of changing motorhomes is it worth waiting for the euro 6 and pay more or buy a euro 5+ cheaper?
     
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    Will the same engine be in both ?
     
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    I can't see the resale value being any different so if they are the same otherwise I would go for the cheapest
     
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    If the euro 6 comes with an adblue system I personally would avoid it like the plague if my experience with our trucks is anything to go by :((y)
     
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    Oh dear, certainly would not like anything like that rubbish to have to deal with !!!
     
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    As far as emissions are concerned - the lower the Euro number the better the diesel engine will be :)
     
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    By no means an authority on the matter and only relaying what I've read on tinternet but I believe Fiat are looking to release their Euro 6 engine avoiding the use of Adblue.

    Personally, I've placed our order based on the 5+ to avoid the price hike on an engine that pleases officials within the EU, rather than the end users.
     
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    Whether you choose a five or six they run at a higher temperature to clean the dpf, which means you have to drive it at 3 to 3.5 thousand rmp for at least half an hour regularly to clean the system otherwise the yellow light will come on. If you do a lot of motorway driving at 65mph that will help. Personally I have a euro 4, less hassle all round. I certainly would not buy a Euro 6 until they have been tried and tested other than on a test bed in the lab! Ad blue only be present in HGVS , another running cost to be absorbed. My Euro 5 truck uses 25litres per week at 70p per litre.
     
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    My FIAT ducato euro 5+ has a built in cleaning system which is activated by a sensor, it does not rely on running at a certain temperature. If it decides to clean itself there is a message light on the dashboard.
     
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    I live in London so was waiting for 6..they keep tightening regs all the time:(
     
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    You could get in a lot of trouble by driving at 3,500 Royal Miltary Policemen :eek:
     
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    It's on quite a few passenger cars. Mercedes, VW and Peugeot come to mind as some that I've seen recently.
     
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    Further to my earlier post, Fiat have adopted the Adblue system on their Euro 6 engines.

    I've recently collected a new Burstner that was one of the last units to be fitted with the Euro 5+ engines and discovered it has the latest styling tweaks, Manual for Euro 6 models and includes the blanked off fill point for Adblue, which is located below the fuel filler.
     
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    Fiat Professional has announced that it will just be using EGR (Exhaust Gas Recirculation) technology to achieve the Euro-6 emission standard, which is due in September 2016. So far, the Italian company is the only manufacturer not to use SCR (selective catalytic reduction), and will therefore not require the addition of Adblue solution.

    Instead, Fiat is using an enhanced version of EGR, called Low Pressure Exhaust Gas Recirculation (LPEGR), which draws exhaust gases downstream of the turbocharger and returns them upstream of the compressor to reduce emissions.

    Using LPEGR requires fewer components and no Adblue tank, which means the payloads of the Euro-6 Fiat Ducato aren’t affected as much as its competitors.
     
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    I wonder if the new Fiat Euro 6 engines use integrated exhaust manifolds in the cylinder head? This is a relatively new idea which promises less problems with blocked catalytic converters as the cat can be fitted closer to the head and this means the exhaust gas enters it at a higher temperature.
     
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    Go FIAT .......no blue pi $$ :clap2:
     
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    Who is correct? I could not find any info on the FIAT website.
     
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    There is nothing on the Fiat web site for Adblue as they do not use it on the Ducato base vans at this time
     
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