Now that got you looking chaps Its not Via gra, its my new movelite xl driveaway awning. I was going to buy one at Lincoln but backed down, went to my local dealers to get something else and walked out with the x display model for just £120. I got it home and the advert says errect in Minutes. The advert did not tell me it was 240 of those bloody minutes. :Blush: any how second attempt is now down to about 40 minutes, and final attempt less than 10 so I am getting the hang of it now. Now leaves me with a Fiamma zip privacy/safari room if anyone is interested.