Easylifter Hydralift help

Feb 6, 2016
38
8
Tameside
Funster No
41,598
MH
Burstner 726g Sovereign
Exp
5 yrs
We currently have a Burstner 726 2016 and I’m trying to decide the best way to take a Suzuki Burgman 400 (215kg) with us on our trips away.

My dilemma is ,do I buy a trailer/side loader trailer to tow behind the van or do I buy an Easylifter Hydra lift with the two wheels behind ?..

Pros and cons required please?...

Trailer / Side-loader


Pros

Cheaper to purchase £300.00 +
Lots to choose from
I will be able to tow a larger / heavier bike if required

Cons
Firstly I’ve never towed and I’ve heard that the smaller the trailer, the harder it is to tow?? If I got the side loader from Armitage trailers , which look great buy the way, it may be difficult to manage especially when reversing.

Storage of the trailer, I’ve limited space available

Ease of getting the bike on the trailer????
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Easy-lifter
Pros

Looks easy to fit and easier to load the bike onto the van
Storage is better, smaller and lighter to shift around
Easier to reverse where required
Cons
Expensive to purchase £1400.00
Not able to use without a vehicle being carried and attached
Risk of twisting the chassis upon heavy braking

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I’ve spoken to the guy from Easylifter and he’s said that the tow bar will need to be strengthened with box sections if it’s onky a two bar tow bar. He said the reason fit this is that under heavy braking the weight shifts forward and could twist the tow bar .

This in turn could shift the chassis

Could those who already have one of these please give me their opinion and expirences with both set ups ?..

Your help would be appreciated please.
 

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Oct 18, 2014
1,600
767
Salisbury
Funster No
33,868
MH
Hymer B598 PL
Exp
Since 2013
We get on well with our hydra easylifter and carry a Honda forza 300 at 195kg. We use the lifter mechanism and a ramp (well my wife does nearly all of it!) and no problems so far. We’ve covered a few thousand miles with it. They sent the box section that bolts onto the chassis after tow bar removed.
 
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crossy
Feb 6, 2016
38
8
Tameside
Funster No
41,598
MH
Burstner 726g Sovereign
Exp
5 yrs
Thanks for that info. If you have any photos of the towbar structure could you send them to me please ? How do you find it over the bumps and when reversing??
 
Oct 18, 2014
1,600
767
Salisbury
Funster No
33,868
MH
Hymer B598 PL
Exp
Since 2013
Both fine, just need to be aware and slow down for ‘bumps’ etc.
We have a reversing camera that helps.
I don’t have any pics but can do so.
 

zac

LIFE MEMBER
Nov 19, 2013
1,430
488
Hampshire
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29,076
MH
Rapido A CLass 10000 DFH
Exp
since 2013
We currently have a Burstner 726 2016 and I’m trying to decide the best way to take a Suzuki Burgman 400 (215kg) with us on our trips away.

My dilemma is ,do I buy a trailer/side loader trailer to tow behind the van or do I buy an Easylifter Hydra lift with the two wheels behind ?..

Pros and cons required please?...

Trailer / Side-loader


Pros

Cheaper to purchase £300.00 +
Lots to choose from
I will be able to tow a larger / heavier bike if required

Cons
Firstly I’ve never towed and I’ve heard that the smaller the trailer, the harder it is to tow?? If I got the side loader from Armitage trailers , which look great buy the way, it may be difficult to manage especially when reversing.

Storage of the trailer, I’ve limited space available

Ease of getting the bike on the trailer????
————————————————

Easy-lifter
Pros

Looks easy to fit and easier to load the bike onto the van
Storage is better, smaller and lighter to shift around
Easier to reverse where required
Cons
Expensive to purchase £1400.00
Not able to use without a vehicle being carried and attached
Risk of twisting the chassis upon heavy braking

———————————————————

I’ve spoken to the guy from Easylifter and he’s said that the tow bar will need to be strengthened with box sections if it’s onky a two bar tow bar. He said the reason fit this is that under heavy braking the weight shifts forward and could twist the tow bar .

This in turn could shift the chassis

Could those who already have one of these please give me their opinion and expirences with both set ups ?..

Your help would be appreciated please.
Make sure you do strengthen the Towbar as when I had one it twisted my Towbar twice. Once it was strengthened it was ok but on the standard detachable ones they are really flimsy. I sold mine as not got a bike anymore but it was easy to use. I purchased a ramp to save keep lowering the bike as believe it or not this can be a pain. It is far easier than a trailer but it is a lot of money to fork out. They are still quite heavy though if like me you only connected it when using it. We did a few thousand miles on ours with no issues aside from the Towbar twisting when we got home. My MH had a long overhang as well and this could cause some grounding coming out of certain fuel stations with the HydraTrail on the back. Once it did I knew what to look for so avoided it.
 

Silver-Fox

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Sep 5, 2014
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Rapido
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im a not so newbie
Having towed a short bike trailer behind a car and the issues I had trying to reverse it. There is no way I would have a short trailer behind a 6 or 7 m MoHo.

There very often is a hydra for sale on here or eBay (y)
 
Oct 8, 2007
296
209
Kent
Funster No
562
MH
Sunlight 640
Exp
Since 2007
We tow a trailer with our Harleys on behind the RV when we travel. When towing there's no problem going forwards :) the art is reversing. With a trailer our size it's visible in the mirrors so easy to manoeuvre in reverse, with a smaller trailer that cannot be seen it's a nightmare! Best to just un hook and push.

Another con with the easy lifter is that you'll take a least the weight of the bike and easy lifter off your motorhome payload, if you have spare capacity then no problem.

Enjoy the riding!

Mick
 
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crossy
Feb 6, 2016
38
8
Tameside
Funster No
41,598
MH
Burstner 726g Sovereign
Exp
5 yrs
Cheers for that. The guy from Easylifter said that the wheels can take 500kg which would be good as I’ve not got loads of payload to play with really.
Like you said, going forward will be ok, it’s reversing that will cause me problems.
Thanks for the info
 
Sep 20, 2014
1,397
11,725
Dazed & Confused
Funster No
33,417
MH
A Class
Exp
Since 2007
Another con with the easy lifter is that you'll take a least the weight of the bike and easy lifter off your motorhome payload, if you have spare capacity then no problem.
Why would the entire weight of bike and Easylifter Hydratrail be taken off the motorhome payload? Surely the 2 caster wheels on the Hydratrail carries a large percentage of the weight?
 
Jul 24, 2009
3,389
11,069
South Yorkshire
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7,631
MH
Coachbuilt
Exp
Since 1999
I've had both a Hyratrail and short sideways loading trailer and while I was happy with the Hydratrail when used with the Frankia the Dethleffs wouldn't cope with the weight and it wouldn't lift the scooter (260kg) off the ground. So I changed to the sideways scooter which with the help of the reversing camera I find easy to reverse.
One advantage of the sideways trailer is that it can be uncoupled with the scooter still on it and manoeuvered manually.
 

Derbyshire wanderer

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Mar 30, 2014
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Personally I think the design of the Hydra lifter is flawed due to the lever stresses it places on the mounting arms. Far too many cases of bent towbars that were perfectly strong enough originally needing strengthening?
What sort of strain is then passed onto the vehicle chassis extensions?
A trailer is half or a quarter of the price and works properly without modifications to the towing vehicle.
 
Dec 21, 2011
3,367
2,777
London
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19,230
MH
IH PVC
Exp
Since 2012
We had a hydra trail and toured around Spain quite a lot during the four years we had it.

Mine never broke but a friends did so I did strengthen it.

Around 80% of the load of the hydra trail and motor bike are taken on the caster wheels. I do not understand some of the comments as the jacking mechanism takes the weight of the bike etc not the motor home when you are lifting it to fit the caster wheels and the only loss of payload should be the 20% of the bike etc.

On a trailer you would have a tow ball nose weight so I expect the loss of payload would be the same for both.

We never bent or buckled our tow bar but have heard some have.

Cons for me was ease of reversing and compact regarding length. Just extra length on the ferry.

Negatives - you need flat ground the jack up to remove the caster wheels, if it is up and down a bit the length of jack travel may not be sufficient to lift it high enough to do this.
My motor home had about 90 inches behind the rear wheels, add another 40/50 inches of hydra trail you have a significant amount of swing at the back end. As a hedge in Salamanca can testify.
It's a trailer on the Chunnel.

They hold their price well once second hand. Buy one off eBay and I suspect if you do not like it and want to sell you will get your money back.
 
Oct 2, 2008
2,718
3,335
J10 M40
Funster No
4,247
MH
Bucher Duro 6x6 motorhome
Exp
since 1968
I have a Burgman 400 that I carry on a easylifter (Hydratrail without the wheels) on my RV . First thing it needs to be a similar size vehicle to carry in this way . The Hydratrail will handle a burgman no probs , with the caveats in above post ,particularly when jacking use the support leg ! the big pro is reversing as it basically is a just a tag axle chassis extension , so you just reverse as normal. The thing with a trailer , especially if you go for sideways loading is it is by nature short , and being as the prime mover is long makes it a pita to reverse, even with rev camera.
The best is a long bike trailer , both for towing stability , and also
when you come to reverse. The problem is that it gets more expensive on ferry , and also for storage and on sites/aires.
 
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crossy
Feb 6, 2016
38
8
Tameside
Funster No
41,598
MH
Burstner 726g Sovereign
Exp
5 yrs
Lots of good stuff here guys thank you. Very interesting !
 
Sep 21, 2016
467
157
DERBYSHIRE
Funster No
45,235
MH
Frankia i740
Exp
since 2007
Hi Crossy
Just been browsing the threads on Easy lifter hydratrail
We have one and it is brand new never used apart from driving back from easylifter and we have a spare wheel as well.
We are looking for 1200
 
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crossy
Feb 6, 2016
38
8
Tameside
Funster No
41,598
MH
Burstner 726g Sovereign
Exp
5 yrs
Thanks for the offer. I’m getting a towbar fitted tomorrow and will decide what to do for the best tomorrow.
I’ve seen that they are £1295-00 new and would like the 12 month warranty for this price, £1200.00 seems a high amount to be honest. I will keep you updated and will get in toouch should we want to buy yours.
Thanks a lot
 
Sep 21, 2016
467
157
DERBYSHIRE
Funster No
45,235
MH
Frankia i740
Exp
since 2007
No problem we also have the connection that needs to be fixed to the towbar and it has been kept in the garage since we bought it
 
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crossy
Feb 6, 2016
38
8
Tameside
Funster No
41,598
MH
Burstner 726g Sovereign
Exp
5 yrs
Thanks for the update. I’m hoping to decide which way to go today and will send you a message. Thanks again
Phil
 
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