Ducato platform cabs delivery delays. (1 Viewer)

[martin2603]

If anyone has ordered a new MH on the Ducato base I am advised from my local Iveco / Fiat dealer that there is currently a nine month wait for these vehicles. This applies to the Platform cab on which most coachbuilts are made.

Perhaps this is why new orders are a long time coming!

 

[Minxy]

I would think that the motorhome manufacturers had their orders in a long time ago for the bulk of their stuff, so it is likely to be just those requiring non-standard base vehicle extras that will have the long wait ... totally bonkers though!

 

[Lenny HB]

Not many Motorhomes use the platform cab these days, most use the camper chassis or the cab with an Al-Ko bolted on.
As Mel says they will have been pre- ordered for JIT delivery.

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[Cossieg]

Possibly the camshaft recall issue?

 

[buttons]

I wonder how long it will be when the Brexit import duties start to bite.....

 

[jezport]

Possibly the camshaft recall issue?

What recall?

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[Derbyshire wanderer]

Possibly due to cancelled transit orders?
The recent threads have convinced me not to want one at any price (I do think the ducato is the better option even before the security doubts)

 

[Lenny HB]

What recall?

About 24000 of them had faulty camshafts built between Nov 2016 and Jan 2017 most went to Austrailia.

 

[Dave_MH]

What recall?

http://www.motorhomefun.co.uk/forum/threads/euro-6-engine-recall-camshaft-failure.148896/

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[Chopsticks]

Ordered a Shire Phoenix 2XL, which is built on a Fiat Ducato.
Spoke to the lovely people at Shire yesterday and they're experiencing real problems with ordering Fiat vans.
Fiat won't give them any answers as to what the problem/delay is and can't give any idea as to how long they'll have to wait.
Soooo frustrating!

 

[Richard n Ann]

Isn't the Sevel franchise ending in 2019? Thought I read it somewhere, will probably be renewed, but maybe a new model will be produced.

 

[Deneb]

Isn't the Sevel franchise ending in 2019? Thought I read it somewhere, will probably be renewed, but maybe a new model will be produced.

No, a new agreement has been signed, and Opel/Vauxhall vans are being brought into the fold as now part of Peugeot.

https://www.businesswire.com/news/h.../FCA-Groupe-PSA-Extend-Sevel-Partnership-2023

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[buttons]

Possibly the camshaft recall issue?

They have been keeping this one under wraps, what camshaft recall?

 

[Deneb]

They have been keeping this one under wraps, what camshaft recall?

Old thread resurrected. It was late 2016 to early 2017. Most of the affected vehicles were in Australia.

 

[buttons]

Old thread resurrected. It was late 2016 to early 2017. Most of the affected vehicles were in Australia.

Most you say so some were sold in Europe then..

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[Deneb]

Most you say so some were sold in Europe then..

Yes.

 

[Pausim]

Just wondering if they have hit any problems achieving the new Euro 6D emissions tests, which come in from September 2019 fot light commercials.

 

[Cheshirecat57]

Just wondering if they have hit any problems achieving the new Euro 6D emissions tests, which come in from September 2019 fot light commercials.

I think this is the most likely
EGR alone will struggle with 6D
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[gus-lopez]

Just wondering if they have hit any problems achieving the new Euro 6D emissions tests, which come in from September 2019 fot light commercials.

I would expect so as we are now well in to the "all smoke & mirrors" region.

 

[Chopsticks]

Thank you all - Your replies all confirm what Shire suspect is going on but Fiat's silence is deafening.....

 

[Jim Schush]

I agree with Pausim, I think the delay is more due to the emissions changes that take affect later this year

https://www.fiat.co.uk/certification-wltp

The emissions regulation is going from NEDC to WLTP rules, given how long it takes to convert a motorhome don’t be surprised if some customers are asked to register their new van before they actually take it. The DVLA insist that vehicles must be registered by certain dates.
Many manufacturers are struggling to supply certain product until later in the year.
Last year it affected cars and this year its the vans.

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[Misterg]

Ducato, Relay & Boxer are the same van from Fiat, Citroen & Peugeot, made on the same line in the same factory with the same body. Citroen were quoting build dates in June (delivery August) for Relay vans ordered in January, and Peugeot were quoting September deliveries for Boxer vans in solid colours, and 4-6 weeks after that for metallics, again, for orders placed in January. Reason given was that "they" were moving the factory.

Doesn't seem unreasonable that chassis cabs are subject to similar delays for the same reason.

 

[Wissel]

I was talking to a main Fiat dealer in December and was told they can't presently order new Ducato's in a metallic colour.

At the time I assumed this was just sales talk and he wanted me to buy one off the forecourt, but since then I've heard quite a few long wait stories on a few self-build forums.

Also remember a thread here a while back where a converter couldn't get the vans and was using Sprinters? Was it IH?

Not ready to order yet. Hopefully it will change soon.

 

[Blue Knight]

Also remember a thread here a while back where a converter couldn't get the vans and was using Sprinters? Was it IH?

I can recall chatting with a few people at the NEC in October who said IH were having big issues with its Fiat delivery chain.

That said, it looks like the biggies such as Globecar have had the same issue too so it's not just the wee chaps having the problem.

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[Chopsticks]

We've waited years for it to be the 'right' time to place an order for our ideal motor home, so I guess we'll just have to wait a little longer, eh?!

 

[Cheshirecat57]

Well.....they ain't going down in price, that's for sure

 

[MichaelT]

I agree with Pausim, I think the delay is more due to the emissions changes that take affect later this year

https://www.fiat.co.uk/certification-wltp

The emissions regulation is going from NEDC to WLTP rules, given how long it takes to convert a motorhome don’t be surprised if some customers are asked to register their new van before they actually take it. The DVLA insist that vehicles must be registered by certain dates.
Many manufacturers are struggling to supply certain product until later in the year.
Last year it affected cars and this year its the vans.

but it looks like these new tests are for passenger cars, did not see any mention of vans or motor homes/conversions?

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[Wissel]

There are rumours/spy shots of a new model next year. Seems unlikely they would slow production on the current version though for this reason, so likely a cock-up with new factory?

 

[Pausim]

but it looks like these new tests are for passenger cars, did not see any mention of vans or motor homes/conversions?

Different dates but new tests are being implemented.

 

[Electraglide]

There are rumours/spy shots of a new model next year. Seems unlikely they would slow production on the current version though for this reason, so likely a cock-up with new factory?

Found this

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