Ducato long arm mirror folds in on M/way

sennen523

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Hi Bart,
Nearly 6 years. The Fiat dealer got approval from Fiat to replace. Didn't have any further problems. It didn't seem to "lock" into place properly.
Al. sennen523. :)
 
Sep 6, 2011
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The arms each are covered by a pair of plastic mouldings, split vertically along their length. You can prise these gently apart using a broad blade ( not a small screwdriver ). Inside you can see the pivot bolt which you can lube and tighten slightly. You still want it to move when necessary! My '08 Boxer was like Dumbo until I did this, they wouldnt stay still!

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The arms each are covered by a pair of plastic mouldings, split vertically along their length. You can prise these gently apart using a broad blade ( not a small screwdriver ). Inside you can see the pivot bolt which you can lube and tighten slightly. You still want it to move when necessary! My '08 Boxer was like Dumbo until I did this, they wouldnt stay still!
But is there not different types ? some have like a star washer which is pressed into place to hold the pressure ? ( as that looks like what mine is ) or am i wrong
 
Sep 6, 2011
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Mine was a '57 plate (new shape) Pug Boxer. There was a (I think) 17mm nut with a spring compressed underneath, all recessed into an alloy housing, on the lower arm. Maybe the later ones are different, but it worked for me.
 
Sep 6, 2011
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Sorry I said lower arm, was actually upper arm, doh! The lower pivot holds the "ident" mechanism which gives the mirror it's central "normal" position.
 
Nov 22, 2007
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Update on this for those interested. Having put up with it for nearly 2 years!. Took the "bull by the horns" yesterday to try and correct the same tendency to "fold" underway. Used a Broad Scraper to part the sections and remove the lower cover, and the DIY "method" shown to give the Star washer a bit of a "nip". I am hopeful that this will help. However looking at the fitting it would appear that
there is a lot of "slack" still. With the Castellated washer under the lower arm,being the main cause?.

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Dec 5, 2011
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I'm just sorry that modern Fiat/Peugeot vans don't have electrically folding mirrors, used them a lot in dodgy situations on my X Trail and my wife's i20., it would stop the, mirrors folding in on their own as well.
 

mike mcglynn

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Being the owner of an older Ducato sometimes has its advantages when my mirror did this folding back trick, I took a look at the rubber shroud,:) folded it back and lo and behold top and bottom adjustment bolts built in to the arms ,a quick nip to both and its not happened again happy days. x 244 March 2006 model .
 
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Our nearside mirror did that and I used two bike brake rubbers wedged in to prevent it but since replaced the mirror.

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Johnnyb

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Pete, on this photo of the top arm is that the top of a screw head that I can see? Maybe this could be nipped up.

 
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Got this job to do my self now ( serves me right for misjudging a bridge arch in wales height was OK didn't say anything about width )

at present got a large jubilee clip holding the arm tight whilst I try to find a replacement with aerial inside may have to go down the replacement aerial and a mirror without one inside

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Gadget

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This thread has got me a bit worried as although I do not have a problem with the mirrors moving whilst travelling, however I do have to fold them in to get my ducato based m'home up our driveway. We have only had this van since Nov 2017 so still fairly new. Will my folding them in and out weaken them unduly?
 
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I was informed that excessive folding in of mirrors can weaken the spring/tensioner which then eventually makes them slack.
I’m sure you’ll have plenty of folding in and out on a newer van though
 
Aug 5, 2018
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Old thread but I was looking at mirror prices and this popped up...
I folded mine in yesterday... rather abruptly though as I hit a tree hidden in what I thoughts was just light hedge leaves..
F****SAKES!! Put a small dink in the door as well.. F****SAKES

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Apr 2, 2014
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Yes ... ours is a Peugeot (2010) but the same as Fiat.
My driver's mirror used to fold in above about 55mph .... it was still under warranty at the time and the dealer said there was no adjustment (which I find hard to believe) so they replaced the whole unit.
Unfortunately, this is correct. Happened to me two vans ago, and I replaced the unit. The sceptic in me made me dismantle the old one. It's crazy, but true - no adjustment
 
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If you were a tight ass I'm sure you could "install" a grub screw in one half so it "rubbed" up against the other. Would only require drilling and tapping and a dot of thread lock.
 
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Note to one and all searching for their mirror online, as many many manufacturers use the same "wide body" or "long reach" mirror in their conversions..
If yours appears as OEMW1117 for either
Peugeot Boxer Citroen Relay, or Fiat Ducato, around 98-06
then look up Lucas ADP933 (Left hand side electric) as it will be cheaper than all the "motorhome" suppliers. This is the Original equipment part.

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Sep 13, 2019
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Hi, I have a Fiat Ducato Auto-Roller 694.
Having had the same problem with the long arm mirrors. Not considered replacing them as I have only had the van about 6 months but I have now tightened the cross head bolt on the top arm and it seems to be a lot tighter. Haven't tried it at 55 plus as yet, it's about 30 miles to anywhere that I'd feel save doing over 50 in it, so we'll have to see. It did strike me that making it tighter may mean that if your mirror does hit something that may have just push it in, it may now just break.
 
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