Ducato 2019 Mudflap Choice

[Kannon Fodda]

The last couple of times we were allowed out I ended up on wet muddy gravel sites in the New Forest which resulted in a lot of splatterings down the side of the van. I'd prefer not to have to spend a couple of hours washing the MH just because I went away for a couple of days. So Mudflaps.

I'd prefer "genuine" flaps purpose designed for the van rather than universal types. Not sure how good a fit the universals would be, certainly some of the images, even on vendors websites, don't seem that neat.

I can't work out if there are differences in the body shape of the X250 and X290 Ducato / Boxer that affect mudflaps. But genuine parts still seem to have big pricing differences. But from descriptions do I need the most expensive ones?

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/710-...0001&campid=5338547443&icep_item=272963399564
Says it fits vans from 2006 - which would be X250, but does it really extend to the current van

Or do I need to fork out for http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/710-5...0001&campid=5338547443&icep_item=370303289009, which specifically states the 2015 models as well as from 2006.

Once I've worked out the front, I can move onto the rear .....

 

[Jake Royd]

The first link does not describe genuine Fiat mudflaps.
The second one does.

You pays your money but I would always use genuine Fist ones.
Expensive, yes, but they fit and are the right length.
Too long and they can get pulled off.

 

[XxAnthxX]

The second link is what looks like what I have.....contrary to what the first link says, they look more like rear ones In the picture to me.

Look at their other advert.....

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/710-...0001&campid=5338547443&icep_item=272963405430

Maybe they‘re the same just with different brackets

 

[jezport]

The problem with any flaps is that they trap water between them and where they are
attached causing rust.

 

[kevenh]

Minor hijack.
Mud flaps in the UK are a voluntary accessory,right?
Our offside front MF disappeared some when.
As it's top of mind now with the OP's query, I'll look to replace it - just checking the priority.

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[Kannon Fodda]

Thanks - The first link is described as "genuine", but is the Citroen version - we know effectively the Citroen Relax, Peugeot Boxer, Fiat Ducato are the same chassis just with some different detailing and of course engines. But are there differences to the wheel arches?

Never sure which is better - to fit or not fit mudflaps. Rust is always an risk and wheel arches especially the chassis rims will be a vulnerability simply from all the grit being flung at paint from the tyres. Plenty of places on a van body that will risk trapping water, often then held in place by all the gunk off a road. But if attaching mudflaps, I suppose you could always add a bit of sealant before doing up any fixings?

And flaps in the UK are an accessory.

 

[Kannon Fodda]

The second link is what looks like what I have.....contrary to what the first link says, they look more like rear ones In the picture to me.

Look at their other advert.....

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/710-...0001&campid=5338547443&icep_item=272963405430

Maybe they‘re the same just with different brackets

I would expect front and rear flaps of the same manufacturer to have a similar look and feel, front and rear, just a slightly different shape to reflect the wheel arch?

 

[XxAnthxX]

I would expect front and rear flaps of the same manufacturer to have a similar look and feel, front and rear, just a slightly different shape to reflect the wheel arch?

I’m just saying that that the ones I purchased for the front from a dealer are like the ones in your second post.

Obviously my van being coach built the panel van rear ones don’t fit as they’re moulded to the shape of the panel van.

 

[NPlusM]

Can l add my 2 penthworth, I found thay they are not that effective.
I had the same experience Kannon, mud and road spray spattered up up the side without, not much difference with them fitted.
Yes l sourced Fiat original, and l think they might add to excesses fuel consumption.

 

[mike mcglynn]

Having recently fitted a full set to my 2018 boxer The front ones have a different method of fixing to the rear ones the front has bolted clips and a bottom bracket .The rear ones needed a nut and bolt not supplied to fit properly I fact I think it would have been better to order two sets of front flaps as there doesn’t seem to be a difference in shape .both sets were OEM from a dealer

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[Mike800966]

We had a genuine one fall off somewher in Europe and I ordered what looks ok on Ebay but they were half the size.
I went to take off the other one to give it a good clean and spruce up and found the genuine Fiat one had the part number moulded into the back of it!
So it was then easy for the excellent dealer (Gary Secker at Desira Group) in Norwich or was it Yarmouth to identify and get the right part.
If your stuck for id details this might save the day
Mike

 

[Minxy]

We had Smart ForTwo ones on our Ducato ... worked really well:

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Thread about them with photos here:

IXEO 590 Mud flaps

Anyone fitted mud flaps to the front of the 590. If so where did you get them from. It would make sense seeing the extension width behind the cab collects most of the debris chucked up from the front wheels.

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[Kannon Fodda]

We had Smart ForTwo ones on our Ducato ... worked really well:

Thanks but not sure they will work. Your photos suggest a moulding around the front wheel arch of your van. Mine is plain metal. In any case I’m hoping for something that fits like a glove with no messing cutting holes brackets and stuff.

 

[TinaLes]

Thanks Kannon Fodda for raising this issue.
I agree that even a short journey in wet muddy conditions can leave the van sides splattered with mud & grime. Hence why I carry a pump up washer bottle full of pre-mixed shampoo to wash it off on arrival anywhere...I know its a bit OCD, but thats just me.
My concern was losing one when I drive off the ramps on our steep drive at home, or even reversing on grassy sites, I have seen so many lost as people reverse over kerb sides etc.

If the proper ones@£69.99 are made of flexible rubber then that may ease my concerns, as I previously thought they were fairly rigid so would fail and fall off.
I will continue to watch this thread with interest, as those with experience will tell it as it is, maybe even surprise us, with statements such as a drop off in fuel consumption, when we mostly drive brick shaped objects with the same COD statistics.
Best wishes to all.
LES

 

[Mike800966]

I know that my experience is with our beloved older 2005 model but if it helps anyone the genuine Fiat part number is 1301952808 for the offside mudflap and it was £42complete with the correct fixings in 2017.
I replaced the mild steel clamping bolts with stainless ones.
Hope this helps
Try giving the full chassis number to a helpful parts assistant, I only know a good Fiat one!
Mike

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[Kannon Fodda]

So reading around quite a bit, it looks like the Fiat version flaps, front part 50901517 rear part 50901516 are have a bit of styling to them. Peugeot / Citroen do a version of the flaps, (part 9603S4 for the front) but these are a plainer fit, and as a result a lot cheaper.

The front flaps wont fit any vans with mouldings around the front wheel arch, or the Coachbuilt / A Class vans.

There are some concerns whether flaps risk entrapment of stuff against the wheel arch itself from the mounting and could even damage paintwork on the wheel arch. Obviously you need paintwork really clean before fitting, but I've also seen suggestions of a 3M type tape.

As for fuel economy, I doubt front flaps on a coachbuilt would have any effect, after all just behind the front doors the whole vehicle jutts out. But on a PVC the flap if it projects a bit from the side of the arch might just have a minor effect on turbulence? I'd have thought after all the stuff on the roof of square edged solar panels, rooflights and suchlike, a mud flap is going to be marginal. A full width skirt on the rear however must impact on drag, and I think I'd avoid fitting that type.

In my case with the PVC it seems to be the front doors, and the slide out step immediately behind that has quickly got plastered, even from only a 10mph few hundred yards travel on a campsite. The rear has been less of a problem.

I'm not really sure of the risks that the flaps are going to get caught and "ripped off". They don't go down to the ground, so you've got to have done something that is going to risk wider damage to your vehicle? I've yet to use levelling ramps. I've had cars with a longer low front overhang that get caught on speed humps, but even when I'd fitted flaps in the past to cars I can't recall catching one?

 

[XxAnthxX]

Peugeot Citroen

Fiat

Both from the same dealer

 

[Kannon Fodda]

I've ordered the plainer Peugeot Citroen versions. A lot of the links for rear flaps said unsuited to motorhomes, but I think that is for the coachbuilt / a-frame vehicles, since I can't see the outside of my PVC has been altered. I wasn't sure about the rear Fiat styled flaps, the images make them look quite deep and I suspect those would be vulnerable. It was also difficult to justify the £30+ extra for the Fiat styling over the Peugeot versions. Even so I'm nearly £80 lighter.

I'll update with some photos in a few days once they've arrived and I clamber under the van.