Drive-rite Semi Air on a x250 std chassis.

Nov 22, 2018
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Having crashed and banged round the concrete sections of the M25, I will be getting semi air on the rear axle.

I am looking at the large air spring semi air kit from Drive-rite. I also want the Drive rite X250 digital gauge and compressor kit.

1. Air Suspension Kit Fiat Ducato X250 (large airspring version) : DR.02.012429
2. Metric Compressor & X250 Digital Gauge Kit : DR.11.016322

However, I can't get anyone to fit it! Everyone seems to fit a preferred brand, be it VB or Glide-rite, but I like the Drive-rite kit because it has a dashboard fitting and separate left and right inflators and gauges, so you can do it on the move, or when boarding ferries, etc.

Does anyone know of anyone who will fit this in the south east, if I buy it?

Thanks.
 
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Semi-air on the Ducato chassis improves handling on twisty roads, and especially in cross-winds and when passing lorries. It provides some lift, but it depends on how 'saggy' your rear is at the moment. :giggle:

It does improve ride quality a bit, but only on the big hits and even then, only to the point that it's as bad as the front axle. How low are you riding at the moment? Are you always resting on the bump stops?

Technically it's not a hard fit. It took me a day and I didn't have a clue.
 
May 12, 2018
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I have 'VB' fitted with the same Dashboard installation as you require.
Don't buy semi - air for ride comfort, you will be disappointed. As has been said, 'handling' is the main benefit.

Robert

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Lenny HB

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What tyres have you got?
We are on an Al-Ko we had full air fitted because of the hard ride & more recently got rid of the crappy Michielin CP tyres surprising what a difference that made.
 
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Nov 22, 2018
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Semi-air on the Ducato chassis improves handling on twisty roads, and especially in cross-winds and when passing lorries. It provides some lift, but it depends on how 'saggy' your rear is at the moment. :giggle:

It does improve ride quality a bit, but only on the big hits and even then, only to the point that it's as bad as the front axle. How low are you riding at the moment? Are you always resting on the bump stops?

Technically it's not a hard fit. It took me a day and I didn't have a clue.

Very saggy rear. So is the moho. ::bigsmile:
Not resting on the bumps, but they bang when we go over bad roads.

My technical ability is limited to putting up shelves :( . I want to pay someone to do it!
 
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I have 'VB' fitted with the same Dashboard installation as you require.
Don't buy semi - air for ride comfort, you will be disappointed. As has been said, 'handling' is the main benefit.

Robert

What I am looking for is an improvement in handling and to stop the bump stops being abused.
Does VB come with digital gauges and separate inflations for left and right?

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What tyres have you got?
We are on an Al-Ko we had full air fitted because of the hard ride & more recently got rid of the crappy Michielin CP tyres surprising what a difference that made.

We have Michelins, but looking at the Pirelli Carrier Camper next time. Gets better scores over Conti.

I just really want a fitter who will fit what I want, not what they want!
 

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We have Michelins, but looking at the Pirelli Carrier Camper next time. Gets better scores over Conti.

I just really want a fitter who will fit what I want, not what they want!
I fitted Toyo Observe Van a couple of other Funsters have fitted them as well all of us pleased with the ride comfort. I would never fit camping tyres through choice.
 
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Does VB come with digital gauges and separate inflations for left and right?

Yes, I have a left and right 'Rocker' switches to inflate and deflate with analogue dials mounted to the left of the steering wheel; LHD vehicle. Digital Dials were an option but they were square plastic and looked cheap.

Pump is under the driver's seat.

If you don't carry a Spare tyre/wheel on your van, one thing to consider is availability of your chosen tyre manufacturer should you need to match an existing 'CP' camper tyre whilst touring. Continental, or any other, 'CP' tyres are made in batches a couple of times a year depending on demand, my latest set of 'Conti CP' tyres took 4 weeks to arrive. Pirelli would be difficult to obtain off the shelf in this area.

Robert

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I have 'VB' fitted with the same Dashboard installation as you require.
Don't buy semi - air for ride comfort, you will be disappointed. As has been said, 'handling' is the main benefit.

Robert
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It’s the Ducato shock absorbers that are truly awful.
 
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Yes, I have a left and right 'Rocker' switches to inflate and deflate with analogue dials mounted to the left of the steering wheel; LHD vehicle. Digital Dials were an option but they were square plastic and looked cheap.

Pump is under the driver's seat.

If you don't carry a Spare tyre/wheel on your van, one thing to consider is availability of your chosen tyre manufacturer should you need to match an existing 'CP' camper tyre whilst touring. Continental, or any other, 'CP' tyres are made in batches a couple of times a year depending on demand, my latest set of 'Conti CP' tyres took 4 weeks to arrive. Pirelli would be difficult to obtain off the shelf in this area.

Robert
Very useful, thanks. Sounds ideal. I can completely live with analogue. Its a long shot, but do you have the VB part numbers?!! And did you get a garage to fit it? If so, which?

I do carry a spare wheel (rely on a tin of pressurized squirty glue? Not for me!) but I would definitely replace all four boots at the same time. Can't see a need for two years yet though.
 
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It’s the Ducato shock absorbers that are truly awful.

I did wonder about that. Thanks. Any suggestions for a better upgrade?

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My system was installed in Germany, so of little help to you. I believe the full set incl guages,pump and replacement rear shocks etc., is the Premium Package try

Rosmia Units 2-4 - Crosspost Industrial Park - Cowfold Road - Bolney, RH17 5QU, WEST-SUSSEX, UNITED KINGDOM+44 (0) 1444 880022
info@rosmia.co.uk www.rosmia.co.uk

They are VB Partners and deal with M/homes.

Yes, the Ducato suspension is 'under strain' in a fully loaded m/home, it is possible to fit heavier duty coil springs and shocks, I looked at SOS Suspension units for up - front but that only makes the ride stiffer. The only other alternative is to follow Lenny HB and go Full Air suspension; guaranteed ride comfort but at a price!

Robert
 
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Nov 22, 2018
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Thanks again. I looked at Rosmia for the VB comfort kit, but they wanted £300 more than another fitter that came equally recommended.

Have decided to go with the VB comfort system. Thanks everyone!!
 
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If you end up with a nose down stance on the van don’t forget to get the headlights re set or they will be useless when required.

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If you end up with a nose down stance on the van don’t forget to get the headlights re set or they will be useless when required.
Good point, although I'm not going for the drag racer look!!!
 

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Thanks again. I looked at Rosmia for the VB comfort kit, but they wanted £300 more than another fitter that came equally recommended.

Have decided to go with the VB comfort system. Thanks everyone!!
I have been looking into getting semi air suspension on the back as well.

Local VB installer said that because I have composite leaf springs they would have to be replaced before fitting the VB System
This would be around £300 extra on top of fitting the air system.

After a bit of digging there appears to be a Drive Rite system that can be used with the composite leaf springs.
 
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Nov 22, 2018
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I prefer the Drive-rite system, but I can't find a fitter willing to fit it.

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knickam

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I prefer the Drive-rite system, but I can't find a fitter willing to fit it.
Do you have composite leaf springs?

It may be Rosmia were pricing to change them!

Have you tried Glide Rite as they fit Drive Rite systems
Mill Lane, Passfield, Liphook, Hampshire, GU30 7RP
 
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No idea! What do they look like?
 

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metal ones are usually black, Mine are a cream colour,
If unsure tap with a hammer to see if you get a metallic sound

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