Does anyone know about Driving licence law?

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  1. TerriSpirit

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    Our MoHo is registered max permissible mass 3500 but our revenue weight has been increased to 3650.
    My driving "licence at the moment" hasn't got a C1 entitlement .... long story....
    Can I drive her or not? :(
    Thanks everyone! :xblush:
     
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    Bad question, but how old are you ? A licence before 1997,I think gives you grandfather rights of 7500kg. I think. Mine did anyway, but had to take another test, because ours is 10500kg. :)
     
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    Just googled this:
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    requirements. The licence you need to drive a motorhome depends on your age and the vehicle's maximum authorised mass ( MAM ). This is the vehicle's weight plus the maximum load it can carry. To drive a motorhome with a MAM of between 3.5 and 7.5 tonnes, you need a category C1 licence.
    Hope it helps.
     
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    In a word No..
     
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    Thanks for being helpful everyone... but I know all of the above... As I said "my driving "licence at the moment" hasn't got a C1 entitlement .... the long story is I am old enough to have the entitlement but I had an op on my brain and had to stop driving for 6 months when I got it back it didn't have the C1 on it. The maximum authorised mass is only 3500 its the extra revenue weight I'm asking about. Very grateful for all your reply's though...
     
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    Sounds like it has been uprated, when you apply to DVLA to uprate they increase the Revenue weight but never bother with the MAM on the last van took 4 months for them to get it right.
    Answer to your question No, UK goes by the Revenue weight.
     
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    You need to ask DVLA if they will reinstate it, but I know that when certain grandfathered categories were inadvertently left off of re-issued driving licences a few years ago, their stance was that you had to pass a test to reacquire the category.

    How did you go about acquiring an increased revenue weight? Revenue weight and MAM are or should be the same thing, just different terms in differing pieces of legislation. If the van has a MAM of 3500kgs, then it shouldn't have a revenue weight over that figure, or vice versa.
     
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    Thanks that's exactly what we need ed to know. I have to get doctors agreement etc to get it put back on... Seems madness as I had it before. Oh well here goes.... Thank u
     
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    Read my post above.
     
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    Yes, I realise that Lenny. Just thought it would help clarify the situation if @TerriSpirit explained exactly what process they had been through to arrive at the situation they described.
     
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    I thought that is what I explaned, when you uprate a Motorhome the DVLA tend to change the revenue weight but don't bother with the MAM, so as I said sounds like it has been uprated.
    Also worth checking what tax he is paying as 3650 it should be £165.
     
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    It looks like you can't drive it on your current licence. You would need to either have your licence upgraded to a C1 entitlement (with/without additional test - presumably the DVLA can advise) or the van downgraded to 3,500 kg. Worth checking payload consequences of the second option.
     
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    Hi

    I would be very interested to know how you get on with getting it reinstated. I too had an operation on my brain and because of the medication I was given there was a risk of epilepsy so was advised not to drive for 12 months. When I got my licence back from DVLA all the grandfather rights categories had been taken away- I had just assumed they were lost for good (I never had any fits and my biggest regret was ever notifying the DVLA)
     
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    Thanks everyone. We have only just brought the van and the V5 has just come through with our details on it. As far as we know, the van was upgraded for the extra weight when it was new but still only shows the 3500 on the MPM? [they say permissible, rather than allowable now...].. I guess what I was trying to ask is do they go by the MPM or the revenue weight but I think it sounds like I will need my C1 anyway. Thanks folks! :xThumb:
     
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    I'll keep you informed as I wrote to them and told them and they sent it back saying I had to fill out a form and get authorisation from the doctors. I am going to read the form again and see if I can just fill out the form or the Doc has to sign it, which will probably cost me! :cautious:. Although I don't necessarily need to drive, it will be good to know I can if the need arises... ie: hubby not feeling well etc....:xrofl:
     
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    In the UK they go by the revenue weight but if you travel abroad it would be worth getting the MAM corrected. Also check the correct plate is on the van.
     
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    Yes the correct plate is on the van and on the V5 as the Revenue weight, it's just not on the MPM? Thanks for your replies.... much appreciated :xThumb:
     
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    As already suggested I think you should take it (or have it taken :)) to a weighbridge first and see what the result is. The increase is only 150 Kg which isn't a lot and might have been done so the previous owner could carry a scooter. You should have a full tank of fuel and full water tank but if they are not you could allow for these not being full by adding an estimated weight to the results you get from the weighbridge. Ideally, have the whole vehicle weighed then just with one axle on the scales - then you can work out the load on each axle. If the tanks aren't full these readings won't be right but you will have some idea where you stand after doing it.
    If you can the results in writing from the weighbridge I think that's all you need to get it downplated - but I am sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong.
     
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    Get the form and use "Doctors on wheels" to do your medical
     
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