Doc on tour, France, Spain, Morroco.

A few pics from today....morning walkies i wont post the poor dead dog again
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Afternoon walkies
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I tried to photograph the big bit of beach they bury all the rubbish in but its hard to see in the photos to be fair .... but they drive down dig a hole dump the trash and then cover it over again .... Fiddlesticksn daft really but the dogs are a nightmare near these areas as they can smell it and want to dig
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Bought a set of cedar wood bowls off one of the sellers .. to be honest I didn't need them but he had a huge box of all this stuff he'd made .. showed us photos of him and his dad and their workshop ...very talented he had lots of clever boxes with secret compartments, dice boxes , chess boards etc all hand made . I thought the bowls were nice. He started with the usual bollocks , 400dh for large one , 250dh for medium and 150dh for the small . I said no thanks I don't need them really I just thought they were nice.. anyway usual bolloxks of best price etc to which I said 250dh .. and stuck to my guns for ages .. In the end I upped it last price to 270dh for all 3 and done the deal at that.

I honestly don't Fiddlesticksin need them but doing my bit for local economy eh so I'm £22 lighter and have 3 bowls to put crisps, nuts etc in but in truth they'll sit in a cupboard with all the other rubbish I never use lol
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And tonight's sunset

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Moving on tomorrow as I really need gas I'm on limited dregs left In my lpg refillable as the Moroccan bottle ran out on Sunday morning . And I need a few other things from shops . So I'll head off after morning doggie walks .
 
Another underhand British maneuver to combat the surge of people buying older vehicles to get round ulez etc .

How much are we willing to bet out of the 1083 surveyed in order to bring about this change none of them were classic car owners .

 
Another underhand British maneuver to combat the surge of people buying older vehicles to get round ulez etc .
I would have thought people doing that aren't unlikely to maintain them like genuine classic car owners so perhaps a test is a good idea.
Shouldn't worry anyone with a classic car in roadworthy condition.

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I would have thought people doing that aren't jnlikeky to maintain them like genuine classic car owners so perhaps a test is a good idea.
Shouldn't worry anyone with a classic car in roadworthy condition.
Depends how strict the test is .. it also buggers up the bonus of having a 40 year old camper you didn't need to return to the UK with for an mot each year .
 
That could be a little earner for you Mr Northernraider! Bring em back and sell for £35 for the set 🤔
Nah they'll probably end up in a suitcase in my sisters loft with all the other rubbish I bought 2 years ago.
 
Aye but not in a good way I don't think.
That's what I meant, it's being scrapped as in no longer available for anyone to get residency via.

Another underhand British maneuver to combat the surge of people buying older vehicles to get round ulez etc .
That's a good thing though. Do you really want idiots driving around major cities in old cars that are unsafe? That's what's likely happening, the ones who look after their classics won't really give a hoot as they know their cars inside out and maintain them well so know that they'll pass.

Depends how strict the test is .. it also buggers up the bonus of having a 40 year old camper you didn't need to return to the UK with for an mot each year .
Wouldn't think there are many of those though, safety should always come first.
 
Another underhand British maneuver to combat the surge of people buying older vehicles to get round ulez etc .

How much are we willing to bet out of the 1083 surveyed in order to bring about this change none of them were classic car owners .

Surely there should be accident records if classic cars are being used to avoid MOT’s and not being maintained properly?

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Those bowls are beautiful Tam, you could of course give them to your sister as a thank you gift for looking after your other crap treasures. 😄
 
Surely there should be accident records if classic cars are being used to avoid MOT’s and not being maintained properly?
Exactly . As I said it's not being introduced for safety. It's being introduced to take more older cars of the roads to meet their ridiculous 2030 bullshit.

That's why the consultation involved only 1083 people and not the several hundred thousand classic car owners in the UK.
 
These are the only non Schengen countries left in Europe now I think.

  • Albania
  • Armenia
  • Azerbaijan
  • Belarus
  • Bosnia & Herzegovina
  • Macedonia
  • Moldova
  • Montenegro
  • Serbia
  • Ukraine
  • United Kingdom
That's a grim list for a potential holiday at the moment
 
Sent you a PM TAM

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Exactly . As I said it's not being introduced for safety. It's being introduced to take more older cars of the roads to meet their ridiculous 2030 bullshit.
No problem then if they are safe they will pass the test if they fail they shouldn't be on the road.
 
No problem then if they are safe they will pass the test if they fail they shouldn't be on the road.
And of course the tests will be free 😉


It's nowt to do with safety uncle lenny . That's why they've had the exemption for years now.

The same way electric cars etc has sod all to do with the environment.
 
A straight forward Classic Car MOT test to the standards that were applied 30/40 years ago, ie: Just Brakes, Lights, Suspension & Steering, corrosion, but no emission tests were needed then.
Possible other Option:
Yearly safety test if doing over say 5K miles, or 3/5 yearly intervals if under that for getting to shows and events, adjust the mileage to another figure if you like, but you get my drift, it stops people taking the pee and using them as every day high mileage cars to be exempted from Road tax & MOT.
LES
 
I haven't...to be honest up till now I've been lazy and I've not looked in to any of them including the French one for 6 months.


But as it stands now I basically have 3 options

I either apply for one of these visas

I jump in buy land in Portugal apply for residency.

Or I give up vanlife, buy a flat and return to a normal job for at least a few years

Because 3 months isn't long enough for me to escape the UK and the really cold winters . I don't even really need high temps or constant sun I just don't want months of grey skies and rain ...I can't cope with it in a house never mind a van .
But the countries outwith shengen nowadays are not the best . If you come to Spain the only place to go is Morocco and for me it just isn't worth it. It's actually depressing me .

Going east then its Turkey but even getting there is really far.


It's not great either way really and I'm not sure what the answer is longterm .

But I need to look in to these visas....
We met an English bloke in Escourse who rents a house there. He manages 9 months a year there he said by getting a 6 months visa and the usual 90 in 180 malarkey spending the rest in UK. Obviously renting a house gives him a base but may be worth a look.

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A straight forward Classic Car MOT test to the standards that were applied 30/40 years ago, ie: Just Brakes, Lights, Suspension & Steering, corrosion, but no emission tests were needed then.
Possible other Option:
Yearly safety test if doing over say 5K miles, or 3/5 yearly intervals if under that for getting to shows and events, adjust the mileage to another figure if you like, but you get my drift, it stops people taking the pee and using them as every day high mileage cars to be exempted from Road tax & MOT.
LES

Who and how would anyone be assessing what mileage any one vehicle had done in a year, in order to decide whether it should be tested or not?

Particularly that speedometers in the past were prone to 'clocking'.
 
We had a package holiday a couple of years ago in Macedonia as an alternative when Greece was on fire and whilst we didnt travel all over over the country it was quite pleasant, not quite as nice as Greece
 
As an owner of more than one vintage scooter. I'm in two minds about the proposals. The biggest risk when you don't have to fix or maintain something, is that some become complacent. Some also think they're so good at restoration and maintenance that it's offensive to their ability.

I've seen quite a few so called top restorations on various vehicle's, where I wouldn't drive/ride them to the bottom of our garden. That's because some old stuff was crap when it was first made. In addition there are industries, mainly in the far east, making crap parts for them all.

Conversely, there's the fact that even an mot is only a test of how a vehicle is for the length and depth of the test itself. The other 364 days allow parts to wear, break and/or fall off.
 
No problem then if they are safe they will pass the test if they fail they shouldn't be on the road.
So, if safety is paramount, then surely we should have annual driving tests for the Over-65s? Just to make sure of course...

Or maybe go the whole hog and only allow professional, authorised drivers on the road ie. ban private drivers & vehicles completely?

I'm really not a fan of blanket rules on the law abiding majority to stop small problems....
I thought we were innocent until proven guilty? Do we now need to prove innocence now? Should everyone be required to turn up at Police Station annually to prove they aren't criminals - after all, those that aren't criminals don't have anything to worry about, do they?

I do agree with Tam, these rules are only being proposed to slow/stop the second hand car market, as new electric car sales are poor & the government needs everyone out of their older cars asap

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