ShiftZZ
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Or do I have to solder it in place?
Do they do a crimp version of this? (1 Viewer)
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Or do I have to solder it in place?
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That is a crimp terminal, need a heavy duty crimping tool for it.
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That is a crimp version. Battery specialists sometimes have a hydraulic crimpers for those depending on dia. Screw clamp types are available but they are much bigger. Best bet is to ask a battery shop to crimp them for you.
Malcolm
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If you try to solder the solder would run out of it. It's a 35mm crimp lug.
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One of these is ideal. Mine's still going strong 5 years on.
To crimp it you need a self made tool--- cut the correct size nut in half while taking about 3 mm off and use it in vice to crimp it .to
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What’s a crimper?
I thought that was a hairdressing thing.
I thought that was a hairdressing thing.
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I solder them, stick in a vice, heat up with a gun, fill with solder, heat shrink.
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For heavier cables I use a Pipe Master to solder on terminals.
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I'm sure your more experienced than I am, I only had 50 years in the game. We first used crimp lugs in 1964.
Stealaways crimping tool example is not suitable for large crimps such as 35mm. You will need something larger. You could hire one but probably not cost effective. You need to find a friendly electrician.
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To crimp it properly it should be hexagonal when finished.
Your tool may crimp it but it won't be anywhere near as secure.
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I use one of these
http://www.altecautomotive.co.uk/in...nals-from-6mm2---120mm2-br-alttt83-2971-p.asp
If you have a strong vice you can shape the crimp with that. It says you can use a big hammer instead, but I've never tried that. It works well on my 35mm2 cables.
Get some heat shrink sleeving to go over the exposed metal bits for a real professional look.
http://www.altecautomotive.co.uk/in...nals-from-6mm2---120mm2-br-alttt83-2971-p.asp
If you have a strong vice you can shape the crimp with that. It says you can use a big hammer instead, but I've never tried that. It works well on my 35mm2 cables.
Get some heat shrink sleeving to go over the exposed metal bits for a real professional look.
These are quite affordable and work well complete with dies for various sizes .
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/8T-Hydrau...770554?hash=item1c976fcbba:g:C3QAAOSwu1VW39SR
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I have a similar tool and it does an excellent job, and is fine for crimping non safety critical wire splices
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My Method:
1, de-sheath cable for a snug fit into terminal
2, cut a further small ring off of around 5mm
3, place correctly sized heat shrink over cable, along away from terminal
4, place cable into terminal
5, heat terminal from ring end with a microflame or torch and feed in lots of solder from the cable end until the hole, ring end bleeds molten solder
6, if cable sleeving is scorched or burnt. Cut ring from "2" above and place over any burnt sleeving from heating
7, pull heat shrink over to end of cable towards terminal, heat with a gun, hairdryer or microflame.
Better conductivity and that cable is never going to leave that crimp unless heated again.
Photos available next time I do It on request.
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Solder
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Leave them Mel, they are enjoying themselves talking about the size of their tools .........You lot do realise that his second post said he was sorted don't you ....
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Notice the crimp die's are HEXAGONAL.
And that crimper is CHEAP....might have to buy one.
Bart
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I have these same ones as well , i'd describe them as the dogs bollocks , excellent and well worth the money if you are making even as little as half a dozen cables
Shouldn't be soldering them, if theirs a short they could heat up and the solder melt.
Silver solder is ok, much higher melting point.
Silver solder is ok, much higher melting point.
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Doesn't even need to be a short. Just a lose connection can easily create enough heat to melt the solder.
We only ever crimp (hydraulic up to 400mm) or electric (normally only up to 95mm). Soldering is too slow and too susceptible to long term issues.
They are pretty good for home use. Check the dies mate correctly though, sometimes they don't line up quite true which can leave burrs along the length of the crimp. Easy enough to trim down with a file though
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The connection points on my victron inverter are soldered !
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