Discount for cash!!!`

Aug 19, 2007
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Looking for a new van we came across this http://motorhomes.autotrader.co.uk/used-motorhomes/rapido/941m/2003-rapido-941m-mercedes-2-7-cdi-diesel-notts-mfpa-8aa12bc8476839110147729a56ea0e67

Went to have a look, really liked it ,Good layout(i always say that :rolleyes: ), went to office to see salesman
spoke to a guy i explained was looking for a deal and i had no P/X, he said i can knock £500 off thats all for cash.

I thought it was overpriced to start with ,I was expecting a couple of grand off. Am i wrong ????

Karl
 

irnbru

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We thought we would get a few grand off too but 1000 was the maximum so we ended up buying private. No warranty should something go wrong but we insisted on a fresh hab certificate.
We are happy with our deal.
 
Apr 18, 2009
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No but you have to be prepared to walk and if you've fallen for it that can be difficult so its your call, whats your max spend, I would say your about right 23 to 24 grand, lay the cards on the table and let us know how it goes(y)
 

callumwa

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The first van I "almost" bought was a second hand Eldiss Autoquest 180, priced at £26k. I had no P/X ,and I was paying cash.

The dealer did not even realise it had a solar panel till I asked about the regulator rating. He was so uninformed about the van when asked questions.
Anyhow he too offered a me just an initial £250 off the price, great I thought, less than 1% discount for cash.:doh:
After some haggling I offered £24,500 cash there and then.

He then had dropped to £25, 000, just £1000 off. He then said to me, "come on you don't want to loose this van for just £500 do you", to which I replied "and do you want to loose this cash sale for just £500", at which point I walked.

I'm glad I did because I know now that an end lounge was definitely not the right layout for us, and I chuckled when 2 months later I saw the van, still on his forecourt listed at under £24k.........
 
Apr 13, 2012
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Looking for a new van we came across this http://motorhomes.autotrader.co.uk/used-motorhomes/rapido/941m/2003-rapido-941m-mercedes-2-7-cdi-diesel-notts-mfpa-8aa12bc8476839110147729a56ea0e67

Went to have a look, really liked it ,Good layout(i always say that :rolleyes: ), went to office to see salesman
spoke to a guy i explained was looking for a deal and i had no P/X, he said i can knock £500 off thats all for cash.

I thought it was overpriced to start with ,I was expecting a couple of grand off. Am i wrong ????

Karl

It seems to have plenty of extras - Satellite TV, reverse camera, alarm - make sure they all work - and a warranty

If it is exactly what you want then go back and just get the best deal you can and buy it.

It is more important that you find the van for you.(y)

You might spend hundreds looking and come up with something not as good.
 

Terry

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Hi I don't think it's too high a price in the first place considering it's based on the Merc.24/24.5 k would be a better price (y) Go back and sharpen your negotiating skills;)They have already offered a measly 500 off -push harder -you should get it down to 25 at least :)try to grab a different salesman he may offer more off -you are already armed with some suggestions from above :) good luck -remember they want to sell it as much as you want to buy it :D
terry
 
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There's a saying I was told many years ago.............

A man asked the old farmer "How much discount for cash?" The farmer replied ...........

"If I'd known you wanted discount I would have added something on in the first place!":LOL:

The van seems good value - if the van's right for you anything off is a bonus(y)
 

DuxDeluxe

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If he is a good salesman and can see from what you say and reading your body language then he isn't going to offer a great deal and it is very much harder to get one. Once you have gone as far as you can simply leave your number and ask him to call if he can improve the offer. That way, you have walked away (showing him you aren't desperate) but without closing the door. He has his sales targets to meet so might be able to sweeten a bit if short of target. Also, ask to talk to the manager who has the real power of decision over discounts....... Cheers and good hunting
 
Feb 16, 2013
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Looking for a new van we came across this http://motorhomes.autotrader.co.uk/used-motorhomes/rapido/941m/2003-rapido-941m-mercedes-2-7-cdi-diesel-notts-mfpa-8aa12bc8476839110147729a56ea0e67

Went to have a look, really liked it ,Good layout(i always say that :rolleyes: ), went to office to see salesman
spoke to a guy i explained was looking for a deal and i had no P/X, he said i can knock £500 off thats all for cash.

I thought it was overpriced to start with ,I was expecting a couple of grand off. Am i wrong ????

Karl
Don't know about the price, but they are a sound dealer
 
Apr 28, 2010
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Discounts, 100% of nothing is nothing.

It's simple, the van is worth what you are prepared to pay for it. Ask for his best offer. If it is above what you are prepared to pay, say sorry too much and walk away. If he, as a result still want's to talk, remind him you asked for his best offer. Then give him one more go. Then if it is still above what you are prepared to pay, there are plenty more out there, unless of course it was a Winnebago.:rofl:
 

Mattyjwr

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Without being gloomy, I guess that the summer is nearly over and dealers may start offering better deals to get rid of stock. The decision to be made includes how much the van is worth to you and how long could you risk waiting for it to drop in price?
 

DBK

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Does the discount come off the salesman's commission? Not a specific question about this MH, but a general question really.
 

BreweryDave

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I get the impression that you can get a better discount if buying with some finance as the dealer gets a commission on that which they can then pass on if so inclined. I'm not a dealer but I believe that to be the case. Might be worth trying that route - then pay the finance off after 1 month if the sums add up!!!
That said - looks a good van at a good price to me(y)
 

Terry

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Does the discount come off the salesman's commission? Not a specific question about this MH, but a general question really.
Probably not he will go to either manager or someone above and tell them the deal to get it ok-ed - If I walk on a deal I always leave my number -surprising how many ring you within an hour ;)
terry
 

Abacist

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Is there anything it hasn't got that you want that you could suggest be fitted rather than have cash off the price. The value to you is more and the cost to him is less. e.g bike rack, tow bar, satellite etc
 
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Its looks a nice clean van, reasonable miles, extra's and on a Merc, I think I heard Oaktree were a decent dealer as well, face them up with an offer near enough to make it difficult for them to turn it down
 

tambo

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On the other hand in a month the market will be flooded with private sales .....if dealer selling for 26k you can bet he paid 22k max private sales are much easier to get bargains and from my experience warranties on second hand campers from dealers aren't that great they can usually get out of any claims

I know the dealer my sister bought hers from had a sold as seen policy on anything under 30k and she had quite a few problems that even trading standards couldn't sort out .....:(
 
Sep 4, 2011
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Looks like a great van Karl and Fay will be ok not falling out of bed in this one :roflmto:
If you do buy it come visit us at Malvern we're there for the duration:party3:
 
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chippy63
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thanks for all the comments & advise, I will try offering them £25,000 and see how we go.

Karl
 

DuxDeluxe

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Keep us posted - looks a nice van and not a bad price. Make an offer and leave your number as we said.

Looking forward to Malvern.........
 

Debs

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Hi, I live quite close to Oaktree and can be found wandering most weeks as it's great to see a wide range of makes and models (not seen anything too tempting yet).

Looking forward to seeing how you get on as they always seem to be busy and have a high turnover of stock.

Fingers crossed for you(y)
 
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Don't know about the price, but they are a sound dealer
Greetings,

Same dealer, Quote,"immaculate inside and out" Rear bumper had a split in it. The drivers seat looked like it had been used by a coalman at work and the half dinette seat had the look as if a baby had puked on it.
Thats 600 miles round trip my car won't ever back.
 

Debs

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Greetings,

Same dealer, Quote,"immaculate inside and out" Rear bumper had a split in it. The drivers seat looked like it had been used by a coalman at work and the half dinette seat had the look as if a baby had puked on it.
Thats 600 miles round trip my car won't ever back.
Yep - do agree with you there, sometimes they can be on the 'grubby' side. One of the blokes that I chat to told me that they have a quick wash and tickle inside and outside and once sold they give them the full works.

The other week they had the Autotrail A class they only did for a year or two - great layout but it was in a right state, the shower looked as though it had split and been mastiked by one of the blind mice:LOL:.

I know some other dealers do this as well, not sure if it's best idea, doesn't give the best impression. What amazes me is that folk have let their mh go to a dealer in that state in the first place:oops2:

Will be prob be calling in later as I've got to go to Ilkeston - think the car automatically turns in there by itself now::bigsmile:
 
Jan 28, 2013
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We used oakTree.. Good dealership.. Not that well cleaned.. But it was the van we wanted and he accepted £1000 off for cash very easily.. We got the extended warranty too.. Not had to use it..
Seems a good dealership tho..
 
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I get the impression that you can get a better discount if buying with some finance as the dealer gets a commission on that which they can then pass on if so inclined. I'm not a dealer but I believe that to be the case. Might be worth trying that route - then pay the finance off after 1 month if the sums add up!!!
That said - looks a good van at a good price to me(y)
Be Careful doing that, unless they have changed most HP agreements have charges for early settlement.

Ian
 
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Hi,
Having looked at a few models for sale of this age the price seems to be good especially as the guy is offering a 3 year warranty, its unusual to get as long a warranty as that for a vehicle of this age. If this includes the base vehicle and the habitation area then I think you have a great deal and If this is the vehicle you want go for it. There are plenty of good recommendations on this thread concerning the seller as a trader which is encouraging too.

Norman
 

JOHNSTEY

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Try calling their bluff! Ring them up saying you are still really interested however you have found another deal at a better price.Say that you know they are a good dealer and you would rather buy from them and ask them to match the price.It worked for me!
 

electrajohnt

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Looking for a new van we came across this http://motorhomes.autotrader.co.uk/used-motorhomes/rapido/941m/2003-rapido-941m-mercedes-2-7-cdi-diesel-notts-mfpa-8aa12bc8476839110147729a56ea0e67

Went to have a look, really liked it ,Good layout(i always say that :rolleyes: ), went to office to see salesman
spoke to a guy i explained was looking for a deal and i had no P/X, he said i can knock £500 off thats all for cash.

I thought it was overpriced to start with ,I was expecting a couple of grand off. Am i wrong ????

Karl
Went there last back end, no part ex tried to do a deal, fella wouldnt budge. They must be able to sell all they get without much trouble. Finished up buying elswhere. Like the farmer said the discount must have been on the price but the psychology is there to make the customer feel good.
 

DuxDeluxe

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Try calling their bluff! Ring them up saying you are still really interested however you have found another deal at a better price.Say that you know they are a good dealer and you would rather buy from them and ask them to match the price.It worked for me!
With that tactic, as a dealer I would ask for specific details as most dealers know exactly what is on the market at any one time - that is how they do their forecourt pricing, plus a bit of Glass' guide........... be prepared - it can be a risky tactic.
 

sadlonelygit

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if it's the van for sale in the advert, then to clarify it's RWD not FWD and a free cambelt..............hmmmmmmmmm!!!!!!!
i would pay money to see them do that!!
go in and tell them not to bother with the 'cambelt' and knock it of the price of the van!
make sure the fridge works on 240v and the mirrors are ok and firmly attached. check stuffing on driving and passenger seats.
ours (962m) has done 153000K with just basic maintainance
 
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