Disappointed in Michelin tyres

Howard H

Howard H

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I have always been a fan of Michelin tyres on my trucks ,motorbikes and motorhomes until recently ,last year I got stuck at a rally when in my opinion I should have got off the field under my own steam not so . So not impressed with the Agilis camping tyres but hey ho yesterday noticed a “bleb “ on the front tyre that will need replacing at only 15000 mile. Has any one else noticed a decline in quality in what is/was a quality premium product . Can anyone recommend an alternative ?
 
If you want a camper tyre I guess there is only one other. The conti vanco camper.
But I am sure there are other great tyres particularly the multi season type tyres.
 
Ours are continental vanco and have been very good 36k miles and still a few mm left 👍
 
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There have been other complaints about Michelin over the last year.
I couldn't get Michelin when I needed new tyres so opted for Continental Conti contact 100 and can recommend them.
The first noticeable feature was how much quieter it was.
 
How big a van , it’s a lot more weight then a normal car being front wheel drive and braking. A car in general probably does more higher speeds when the wheels are turned for steering, a van might do more slow speed when steering and positioning so scrub the tyres off more.
 
Howard H said:
The conti have been recommend to me before so will look at them ,thanks
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We have them. The big advantage of Continental tyres is you can get a specific tyre pressure recommendation if you know your axle weight. The pressure is likely to be much lower than you have been running the Michelins and you will have a significantly better ride as a result.
 
We have Agilis on our 2019 Burstner (Fiat heavy chassis 4000 kg) cant wait for them to wear out. The ride is so hard the van is literally falling to bits. Cupboard doors coming loose, tv bracket came off luckily didn’t break the tv. Very unpleasant ride, very tiring.
 
Bessy765 Are you using Michelin's recommended pressures? They only ever advise to use maximum and most comments on here are complaints about being too hard.
If you know what weight is on each axle and your tyre size/load rating you may find the Continental tyre chart suggests lower pressures.

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When we first got our van (2000) it had Michelines fitted, as I recall the recomended pressure was 80psi, it rode like a tractor, I reduced it to 65psi rear and 56 psi front which helped, but they had another problem though . . . . . . . they wouldn't stop you in the wet, we changed them for Continetals Vanco, it solved all the probems.
 
Bessy765 said:
We have Agilis on our 2019 Burstner (Fiat heavy chassis 4000 kg) cant wait for them to wear out. The ride is so hard the van is literally falling to bits. Cupboard doors coming loose, tv bracket came off luckily didn’t break the tv. Very unpleasant ride, very tiring.
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Makes me think pressures are too high.....
 
Removed so not inflated 2018 purchased Continental CP tyres. Also evident in other places.
I have been an advocate for Camper tyres over many years. No longer sold on Camper specific tyres. I wonder why!
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Michinlens CP tyres are terrible for grip how on earth they give them an M&S rating is unbelievable. Worse tyres I've ever had on a van, traction control is always cutting in on steep hills, damp roads, tiniest bit of gravel etc.
Was going to change them earler in the year but not done any miles much this year. Off to Germany at the end of the month debating about changing them before we go.
 
Indeed changed for Hankook as used them commercially. Quieter better grip on grass. Only time will tell as regards longevity. However have gut feeling on that score
 
4000 kg chassis, 4.5 bar rear, 4.0 bar front, better but not much. Have tyrepal monitor, they rise by around .4 of a bar after running for a while but temp only slightly increases about the same as at the original pressures
 
Ivory55 said:
How big a van , it’s a lot more weight then a normal car being front wheel drive and braking. A car in general probably does more higher speeds when the wheels are turned for steering, a van might do more slow speed when steering and positioning so scrub the tyres off more.
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3850 kg but the the tyres where bought with a considerable safety margin so should have been well up to the job🤷‍♂️
 
We have an i10 the front tyres have done 20,000 they won’t see 30, and that’s a fraction of of the weight. But everyone has different expectations, may be consult an actual tyre expert. After all I don’t think anybody on here is expert in anything, me included.
 
Ps they are continental tyres

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Howard H said:
I have always been a fan of Michelin tyres on my trucks ,motorbikes and motorhomes until recently ,last year I got stuck at a rally when in my opinion I should have got off the field under my own steam not so . So not impressed with the Agilis camping tyres but hey ho yesterday noticed a “bleb “ on the front tyre that will need replacing at only 15000 mile. Has any one else noticed a decline in quality in what is/was a quality premium product . Can anyone recommend an alternative ?
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Why limit your options to camper tyres... there are plenty of van tyres out there that IMO are far superior to camper tyres. One example being the Agilis Cross Climate tyre..... Totally different beast to the Agilis Camper tyre.
 
poppycamper said:
Why limit your options to camper tyres... there are plenty of van tyres out there that IMO are far superior to camper tyres. One example being the Agilis Cross Climate tyre..... Totally different beast to the Agilis Camper tyre.
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I am not sure what the difference is between a camper tyre and a van tyre so I have just stuck with what comes as standard . In what whey is the cross climate tyre a different beast to the camper tyre ?
 
camper tyres are advertised as having structurally stronger walls to allow for lots of time fully loaded standing still.
is that absolutely necessary or is it yet another marketing ploy to add £'s to the profits?

they do run at higher pressures than std tyres, which is sometimes needed.

I have conti camper tyres but that what was on the van so kept them , will i next time ..

jury is out:cool:
 
Richard and Ann said:
Ours are continental vanco and have been very good 36k miles and still a few mm left 👍
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Ours used to shake the fillings out of our teeth and were not all season which are a softer composition with no down side in wear or noise but big up sides grip in snow/mud plus comfort. Also legal requirement in several countries between October and April - not sure of the dates. We leave them on all year.
 
Somewhere in the back of my mind is an insurance clause re any replacements are to match original spec. There might be a possibility that if you suffered a blowout and subsequent damage could the insurance company argue that because you did not fit camper tyres and the ordinary tyre failed?? Only a thought knowing what insurance companies are like in their rush to pay out.
 
Bessy765 said:
Somewhere in the back of my mind is an insurance clause re any replacements are to match original spec. There might be a possibility that if you suffered a blowout and subsequent damage could the insurance company argue that because you did not fit camper tyres and the ordinary tyre failed?? Only a thought knowing what insurance companies are like in their rush to pay out.
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IMHO the only stipulation will be load capacity and legality of the tyre
 
I’m surprised nobody has said much about the age of their tyres,apart from the mileage achieved,or grip,or ride quality. Many people,most with far more knowledge than I have,recommend changing your tyres every 5 to 7 years,irrespective of tyre wear. Many motorhomes do well below the national average mileage but need to be changed for safety reasons will before the tread is worn.
 
Bessy765 said:
Somewhere in the back of my mind is an insurance clause re any replacements are to match original spec. There might be a possibility that if you suffered a blowout and subsequent damage could the insurance company argue that because you did not fit camper tyres and the ordinary tyre failed?? Only a thought knowing what insurance companies are like in their rush to pay out.
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Most if not all mohos are based on vans.....so what is original spec.... van manufacturer or moho manufacturer???
 
Howard H said:
I am not sure what the difference is between a camper tyre and a van tyre so I have just stuck with what comes as standard . In what whey is the cross climate tyre a different beast to the camper tyre ?
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Agilis CP is a tyre specifically for mohos. IMO a very substandard tyre that will not get you off a wet field if that is your thing never mind being safe in winter conditions
The Agilis Cross Climate is an all season van tyre much better suited to mud.. snow and ice than the CP tyre.
Plenty of arguments on here but if they are good enough for fully laden vans then why not mohos.
At lot of Funsters think because they have a moho (camper) they need camper tyres.!!!!!

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