Dirty Water

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  1. laurieash

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    HAVE PICKED UP SOME NONE DRINKABLE WATER NEED TO CLEAN OUT MY TANK.
    WOULD USE MILTON AT HOME AND THE FLUSH,
    BEEN TO A FEW SUPERMARKETS NOT FOUND ANY.
    ANY ONE ANY IDEAS.
    in Portugal at moment.
    Laurie.
     
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    Milton is a weak solution of bleach. Just make sure you clean out well afterwards to get rid of the taint the alternative is to not drink from the tank unless boiled first. bottled water is cheap enough.
     
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    Thanks for the quick reply,
    I don't drink out of the tank it just to stop any bacteria that may be in the water.
    Laurie.
     
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    What makes you think it is not drinkable, did it have non-portable on it? We can't think of any water in Portugal that will harm you, sometimes there a reason to mark the tap as non-portable as it is used for cleaning cassettes risking contamination. Some fonts are not regularly examined, so that sign is put on as a precaution. If you are near to a water supply, just dump all you have and refill. If you really want to clean it, visit a pharmacy and ask for babies bottle cleaning fluid, that's all Milton is used for generally. Or they could have sterilising tablets and most of them speak English too.

    Bye for now - we are leaving Portugal tomorrow - back home unfortunately.

    Nigel and Pamala
     
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    As Roger said .. use regular household bleach.. about a cup to a tank will clean it out..

    NB>>> NOT THICK STUFF<< it has detergent that you DON'T want.

    Add the bleach to a full tank, pump though the pipes until you can smell at the taps..don't forget the shower head..

    Leave for about 15 mins.. then drain or pump out.. fill and flush.. drain and fill and you will have a super clean water system.

    That's all I've ever done.. and never ever had anyone with a stomach bug .. and we always used the tank water for drinking..

    Just for info .. don't waste money (cheap as it is ) on bottled water

    Bottled water contains more bacteria than tapwater, with some brands found to harbour levels 100 times above permitted limits, according to new research.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/7763038/Bottled-water-contains-more-bacteria-than-tap-water.html


    If still concerned instal a Nature Pure Filter .. you can drink canal water after it's been though one of them.. :thumb:
     
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    Go to the Icecream shop and see what they use for their Icecream scopes ( to clean them ) I used to put some Milton in the container that held the scopes when I wasn't serving someone. So more than likely it will be the same type of thing they would have to use.
     
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    From an old post of mine..
    one I Googled earlier

    Safety Data Sheet Milton

    Milton , about £2.50 per liter
    Common or thin Bleach in Tesco .. 18p for 2.5 lt


    As an aside..

    When I was the Maintenance manager for a large sandwich company in London, Sodium Hypochlorite, (ie BLEACH) was used in the salad washer .. this was basically a large bath with an agitator where the lettuce, tomatoes etc were washed before being used in the production of sandwiches..

    After washing they were shaken dry.. NOT rinsed..

    Bleach, or to give it the correct name Sodium Hypochlorite, is still the best (and cheapest) product for killing bacteria and viruses .. used wisely and carefully it cannot be beaten.

    Buy Milton by all means, but don't be conned into thinking it is better.. it's dilute bleach .. nothing else
     
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    point made..

    I've read that before.. but in my extensive experience both in industry and as a consumer I have yet to see any damage to stainless steel using dilute bleach.. my misses uses it like it's going out of fashion on our kitchen s/s sink.

    Of course there is 'stainless steel' and 'stainless steel'.. as you are no doubt aware, it comes in several grades .. for example, we have cheap s/s cutlery that rusts in a dish washer .. :Doh:

    What we are talking about is a cup of bleach at 5%, diluted with say 20+ gals .. That's a ratio of about 800 / 1 at 5% .. = 0.00625%

    that's weak, it certainly won't damage a water boiler with a contact time of 10 - 15 mins.

    The boiler is more likely to be damaged by limescale.. how many descale it at least once a year?
     
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    Why not Detergent?
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    Detergent is added to bleach primarily as a thickening agent to help it 'cling' to the surface of whatever it comes into contact with.. it's designed to be 'flush' resistant which would make it very difficult to flush out, leaving detergent residue in the pipes, pump etc.

    you really don't want this in a drinking water tank..
     
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    I do Jim, with cheap white vinegar from the Cash & Carry. :winky: £3 something for 4 Litres. :thumb:

    Thanks for the tips re ordinary bleach, and "NOT THICK STUFF". :thumb:

    Cheers,

    Jock.
     
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    white vinegar is all I use , not only cleans the tank and pipework as it is a mild disinfectant but with a good strong solution also descales the boiler
     
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    Tank Flush

    Hi guys and girls all sorted now cheap bleach and flushed a few times.::bigsmile:,
    I FOUND A NEW AIRE , well new to me, may not be to you guys .
    lts called Camperstop Messines Sao Bartolomeu de Messines.
    N37°16'45.9" W8°14'29.8" Nice young Dutch couple that run it very helpful told him of my problem he offered to go to town and get me somtink to clean my tanks with.
    Also no problem on flushing my tanks a few time either,.
    I offered to pay extra for the water but he said no, just get clean and be happy.
    Sounds like Pedros don't it.
    only 5 euro per night showers wifi , large pitchs, nice and flat
    Gravel surface. Toilets,
    Takes you down to the Restaurant, and picks you back up.
    Good walking area, he also does guided walks.
    Supermarket trips.
    DOWN SIDE NO HOOKUPS AS YET WAITING FOR THEM TO BE PUT IN.
    ROOM FOR 40 VANS OR 60 FRENCH VANS:RollEyes:
    Laurie.
     
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    I can't understand why people don't have a Nature Pure filter as a matter of course. In fact, MH manufacturers should either fit as standard or, at least, offer as an option. As has been said, you can put anything through it and get drinkable water out of it, and I can say this from experience. OK it costs a bit, but you never have to worry about finding "aqua potabile" ever again. No more 5 litre containers to buy and find space for.

    End of advert, and I have ABSOLUTELY NO CONNECTION with Nature Pure other than as a very satisfied user.
     
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